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candlesandpitchforks · 25/05/2022 13:20

Starting a new one as other seems to have dropped into oblivion.

How we all doing ? Some of you might recognise me as the poster who had v traumatic pregnancy and I can confirm my baby boy arrived and is currently doing well ! Thank god it was bit touch and go but hurrah for NHS.

Also just me or has there been some really bonkers comments on this board of late ?

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Notmyzoonotmymonkeys · 26/05/2022 20:19

@candlesandpitchforks
I do try like she can do things for herself but just does not want to, like mum I think does not allow her to does not want her to grow up, they think there helping but really all they r doing is damaging her my niece who is 4 is why in front of her for independence is hard to watch her being babied when I know she should be doing the things herself.

Notmyzoonotmymonkeys · 26/05/2022 20:24

@DebussytoaDiscoBeat
I hear ya with so much you want to say to ex lol, where I have not met her cause I'm a c##t and I just say what I'm thinking a spade is a spade to me, someone asks for my opinion I'm giving it straight sorry if it's not what you want to hear but your hearing it anyway you did ask lol.

candlesandpitchforks · 26/05/2022 22:41

DebussytoaDiscoBeat · 26/05/2022 19:28

Congratulations @candlesandpitchforks I hope you and your baby are doing well today.

We are alive hurrah and doing well the usual bumps in the road !

I had forgotten what it's like having a newborn and fml the lack of sleep but DH doing most of the nights as apparently he literally can take or leave sleep. I knew there was a reason I married him... wasn't for all the fun we have had last 12 months with the ex - sigh.

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candlesandpitchforks · 26/05/2022 22:48

@DebussytoaDiscoBeat @Catfordthefifth I regularly think that in previous life I must have been hilter or someone as equally evil because it's like running a gauntlet, naked, blinded folded with knives being thrown at you randomly while you balance in tight rope.

@Notmyzoonotmymonkeys sounds like infantilization and that can really undermine someone's self worth and confidence. As a SM you only really have limited power to change things in regards to that. I would keep chipping away at DH and frame it as you want her to be successful in the world ect. Poor lamb I hate it when parents do this to their kids because of their own odd issues . The only other thing you can do is to nacho the situation, but I haven't ever managed to nacho parent correctly because I'm a nosy bugger, and DSC mum is super hands off (which is unhelpful) so I kinda can't do it again to the poor kid. She just wants structure which I can provide as it avoids meltdowns which makes my life easier !

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candlesandpitchforks · 26/05/2022 22:51

Honestly also wtf is going on on these posts at the moment. Where are all the sane people ? Why is everyone so angry, is it lockdown are we all just Uber on edge like wtf.

Just had my DSC ask when I was gonna have another baby and I'm like do I look like my hands aren't full enough babe. Gahhh teenagers. I'm gonna slink off now to collapse and try abs avoid thinking why she's asked me that. Probably her mum. Again. Sigh 😵‍💫

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Catfordthefifth · 26/05/2022 23:30

DebussytoaDiscoBeat · 26/05/2022 20:00

I'm sorry you lovely ladies are struggling.

I'm technically out the other side but I had the most vivid dream last night that I finally snapped and told DSC's mum exactly what I think of her, it's left me feeling pretty unsettled and thinking why the heck did I put myself through so much shit? It almost makes me feel like walking away from DH so I can try and forget that part of my life ever existed and but I know I'd be cutting off my nose to spite my face. I just wish I could move on from the trauma of it all. But hey, I knew exactly what I was getting into 🙄

I feel the same, I'm not sure I'll ever accept what's happened in the past.

Magda72 · 27/05/2022 00:23

You know I think why so many of us feel we must have done something bad in a previous life to warrant all the shit is because we are decent people who actually 'tolerate' the shit because we don't want to make any of the dc pawns in the adults' 'warring'!
I get on well with my exh but it's because I did YEARS of therapy & slapped a smile on my face throughout all his carry on & to some extent I still do.
I also spent years bending over backwards trying to understand & sympathise with exdp's various dc & ex related issues.
Re exh I can justify why I put up with crap - it was to get my dc through divorce as sanely as possible. But with exdp I eventually saw I was getting nowhere with it; they weren't my dc & if he and his ex wanted to rear entitled, lazy dc there was nothing I could do to stop it.
I'm not blaming us at all for tolerating shit - I actually think it says a lot about the efforts we made/make, but in some situations (like mine) I realised enough is enough & they were not my kids to protect.
As a dm whose dc have half siblings I'll admit to having a wobble when I found out their sm was pregnant as I did worry for my dc as exh can be beyond flakey and insensitive at times. However it's a wobble I kept to myself and never said anything other than positive things about the pregnancy to my dc.
I just do not need understand how any woman thinks making an ex's subsequent children the subject of her ire benefits her own dc.

Catfordthefifth · 27/05/2022 08:30

Exactly @Magda72

I don't like dps ex, frankly she's my least favourite person ever. However I have never expressed this to or Infront of her child. I have stuck up for her to him time and time again and when she's been an absolute dick to him I've found myself saying well maybe she's stressed maybe she's had a bad day at work, because I know she couldn't give a shiny shit about him but I never wanted him to realise that. Over the years all the time and effort I put in has been thrown back in my face and all I ever did was try and protect that child. I feel it's all been for nothing. I can't fault dp to be honest, but we're now in a situation where ds wants to know why his brother doesn't come anymore and I don't know what to tell him.

I feel I could have been selfishly living my own life, could have not involved myself from day one and been happier in years gone by, and I didn't and I wasn't and for what? I've gained nothing but heartache and anxiety.

candlesandpitchforks · 27/05/2022 08:44

@Magda72 I have wondered if blended families attract a certain personality type or certainly the posters that post on here for the ones who put up with it for sustained periods

A lot of my friends say I'm bonkers to put up with the situations I have had and frankly I'm relatively lucky in my situation although it's been v v v v hard many times many say they would have walked.

Obviously there must be people in blended families that fit the evil sm narrative by laws of averages but you know if they are I very much doubt they are posting on MN for advice. To post in my eyes anyway means the person cares about the situation and it's bothering them. Which is why I think the regular comments of you clearly don't care gets on my nerves. Because the people who truly don't care wouldn't post or even seek advice or run the risk being told they are wrong.

Often we get sm at end of their tether because they are not just doing the mum duties but extra bonus step mum duties and if their partner is a asshat also his duties all under the umbrella of you knew what you were signing up for. I had no idea as a mum what I was signing up for and there were books to read. How can people truly say this.

I'm with you Magda believe me when my Dd dad moved in with her now sm (she was the other ow) I had some fairly interesting thoughts but I reflected back and dealt with those feels with my therapist and low and behold we all get along swimmingly (usually) however some posters seem to use mn as a therapy session by taking out those feelings on posters rather than actually dealing with them !

Sorry for the essay always same with me waffling on

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SoggyPaper · 27/05/2022 09:35

I think lots of things are at play.

Firstly, men of certain dispositions and attitudes are more likely to seek a replacement wife to take over widely duties (including anything to do with his children).

These men are a bloody nightmare to live with under any circumstances. More so when they aren’t your children.

People in these situations are disproportionately going to be posting on MN. The more liveable end of the stepfamily spectrum doesn’t generate the issues people post about.

Then there are loads of things caught up in the dreadful responses:

General misogyny. Projections from disgruntled ex wives and former stepchildren and such like.

But also an incredible slight of hand happens where people seem utterly unable to see beyond the evil SM/poor stepchild narrative. The actual causes of the SM being overwhelmed and even resentful are totally hidden behind this and people do not want to see them.

It’s the same shutting down of critical thinking whenever the figure of the vulnerable child is evoked that is deployed to shut down debate and critical thinking in so many areas. It’s an extension of the issues around ‘child saving’ campaigns generally. They are incredibly effective at displacing and oversimplifying complex issues.

Show people an image of an unhappy child (the younger and cuter the better) and it seems to prevent them from looking at the situation critically - even where they would usually do so in situations not involving children. People focus on all the wrong solutions - identifying a culprit to be vilified, throwing money at the symptoms, general handwringing - and ignore the real causes.

So the overwhelmed stepmum is berated and told she’s emotionally damaging the children etc, and people literally do not want to look at what the child’s parents are doing. They get angry at anyone who tries to get them to and make all sorts of excuses even.

All so very toxic.

SoggyPaper · 28/05/2022 12:50

How is everyone doing with half term and a pile of public holidays now in play? IME this is often a set of circumstances that lead to increased stepfamily stress.

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 14:18

@SoggyPaper not our weekend to have DSD but she was quite literally dumped at our door with no notice (we have her in the week too). I wouldn't mind but it's my birthday weekend 🙄 and we had plans we had to cancel as DSD hates certain types of food and things flat out makes a bit of scene if we don't go to place she likes. Instead I got to drag a sick toddler around crazy golf and the baby in the push chair in the heat because DSD has insisted DH had promised her next time she visited we would do crazy golf. Bar the fact it wasn't supposed to be this weekend but next Tuesday.

She's got no idea why she was dumped at our door other than mum said "it would be fun for me to see dad" she's not Nt so had no idea why this would cause issues. DH had no idea this was gonna happen called up ex and she said well "I have plans so just deal with it or you gonna turn your DSD away for your new family". Ex knew it was my birthday as DSD bought me a card which I think might have prompted all this.

So ready to shoot self. I have no problem with her coming but the timing is a bit suspect, and no notice meant everything is up shit creek.

She's right though would never turn DSD away because she literally has no clue (why this might be problematic) and her mums gone out and I won't leave child alone in house, let alone one that probably wouldn't notice a fire if it started.

Feeling bit crap. It's been a nice enough day just feel a bit put out but I'm not sure why ? Maybe I'm just being a brat. Tell me if I am 😔

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Catfordthefifth · 28/05/2022 14:26

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 14:18

@SoggyPaper not our weekend to have DSD but she was quite literally dumped at our door with no notice (we have her in the week too). I wouldn't mind but it's my birthday weekend 🙄 and we had plans we had to cancel as DSD hates certain types of food and things flat out makes a bit of scene if we don't go to place she likes. Instead I got to drag a sick toddler around crazy golf and the baby in the push chair in the heat because DSD has insisted DH had promised her next time she visited we would do crazy golf. Bar the fact it wasn't supposed to be this weekend but next Tuesday.

She's got no idea why she was dumped at our door other than mum said "it would be fun for me to see dad" she's not Nt so had no idea why this would cause issues. DH had no idea this was gonna happen called up ex and she said well "I have plans so just deal with it or you gonna turn your DSD away for your new family". Ex knew it was my birthday as DSD bought me a card which I think might have prompted all this.

So ready to shoot self. I have no problem with her coming but the timing is a bit suspect, and no notice meant everything is up shit creek.

She's right though would never turn DSD away because she literally has no clue (why this might be problematic) and her mums gone out and I won't leave child alone in house, let alone one that probably wouldn't notice a fire if it started.

Feeling bit crap. It's been a nice enough day just feel a bit put out but I'm not sure why ? Maybe I'm just being a brat. Tell me if I am 😔

You're not being a brat. Her mum is being an arsehole and using her child to get to you. I've been there. It's hard, and because you're a good person you let it happen because to not would be to hurt a child. I wish I had a solution for you Flowers

happy birthday CakeWine

SoggyPaper · 28/05/2022 14:28

You are not being a brat. Not even slightly.

it’s dreadful behaviour by your SD’s mum. Just shocking. There’s no way that it’s not deliberate or that she didn’t mean to cause trouble. How terrible.

As a way of mitigating this stuff in future, maybe it would be a good idea if your husband could not promise his daughter, or do anything she’ll interpret as a promise, that you will all do anything particular the next time she sees you. A better framing would be putting it on a list of possible things to do at some point in the future.

That way you’ll be able to manage her expectations and be able to bring out the list to choose an activity at appropriate times. ‘Let’s put it on the list’ might be a better way of him handling things.

SoggyPaper · 28/05/2022 14:31

Yes happy birthday for this weekend. 😁

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 14:33

Think your right actually that will work, that's good wording too ! Honestly though today was not the one.

Tbf this is first time this has happened. If it was emergency or something critical that means she needed to drop her off no problem but it seems like a very much deliberate fcuk you which is weird because everyone was ok last time I checked 😵‍💫

Gahh hope others are having better day !

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aSofaNearYou · 28/05/2022 14:36

@candlesandpitchforks Bloody hell that's awful. Have to say my DP would not be taking DSD on an activity of her choice in those circumstances. The weekend would still be organised around my birthday.

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 14:51

@aSofaNearYou thing is and it sounds awful but I just didn't want the meltdown. I know from experience never to promise DSD anything unless your gonna follow through because meltdowns and sulking and with a newborn and a toddler already screaming I took path of least resistance.

DH wouldn't have promised it and he should have been clearer on days on which he promised. He knows his daughter, or should do by now. She would have been fine if he had said Tuesday. That said I'm old now so birthdays aren't such a thing but it all seems a bit meant to cause drama on a weekend I wanted to avoid it. And I'm just not about that life, not this weekend when I'm one step closer to the grave.

I just don't know why anyone would do this I really don't xxx

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aSofaNearYou · 28/05/2022 14:59

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 14:51

@aSofaNearYou thing is and it sounds awful but I just didn't want the meltdown. I know from experience never to promise DSD anything unless your gonna follow through because meltdowns and sulking and with a newborn and a toddler already screaming I took path of least resistance.

DH wouldn't have promised it and he should have been clearer on days on which he promised. He knows his daughter, or should do by now. She would have been fine if he had said Tuesday. That said I'm old now so birthdays aren't such a thing but it all seems a bit meant to cause drama on a weekend I wanted to avoid it. And I'm just not about that life, not this weekend when I'm one step closer to the grave.

I just don't know why anyone would do this I really don't xxx

Yeah I can respect that. For us it would he more of a lesson - we wouldn't want to teach DSS that you can throw a tantrum on somebody else's birthday and get a day out centered around you as a result. But I get that things might be a bit different with your DSD.

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 16:37

@aSofaNearYou usually I would but newborn tiredness got me into the lazy option. That and the fact it would go straight back to Dm and I'm already ready to say something lol

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Notmyzoonotmymonkeys · 28/05/2022 16:41

@candlesandpitchforks
What a shit thing for ex to do, well take next weekend to do your birthday stuff tell ex you had dsd this weekend so won't be having her next weekend, it's my birthday is next weekend and if a stunt like that was pulled I would drive dsd home myself as mum had her birthday weekend free so did dp and tbh I'm more entitled to have a free weekend as I have no kids lol.

And I know where your coming from have to do things with them when you say you will, my dp tried to plan my day off work to go out with him as he said he will take them out I told him no way, he was not planning my weekend of work, he always has to spend on them to keep them happy its sad really buying your kids or they won't come, but I could not go and watch him spend £ like that to keep them happy.

Big happy birthday I would leave dp with kids and go out with mates lol.

SoggyPaper · 28/05/2022 17:56

Argh. Now I am worried about DS’s safety if his dad has him for the day at his house tomorrow.

After last weekend’s bullshit with the SC mother throwing a temper tantrum and abusing her son on my husbands doorstep, there’s more drama this weekend from the Jeremy Kyle style nightmare that is his first wife! It’s not even a contact weekend.

Seems she’s back with her thug of a boyfriend. But she’s phoned H up to have a go and accuse him of turning the kids against him. Then the boyfriend has been in the phone threatening him. He’s apparently worried the guy will turn up looking to fight him!

This I’d the second of her thuggy boyfriends that she’s had threaten to assault him because of her bullshit and drama. The woman is an absolute nightmare.

This crap sets off every protective instinct in me. How can my toddler potentially be exposed to this absolute nonsense? How was I supposed to have recognised that my professional, highly educated H had in fact, married a woman who is actually a total chav? I knew she was lacking in education and from a rough background but I didn’t assume that meant she’d be proper Jeremy Kyle material. Why would I?

Of course, I didn’t know that she genuinely was like this until it was much too late. More fool me for not wanting to be judgemental etc in the first place.

SoggyPaper · 28/05/2022 18:25

Now he’s trying to minimise all this. There has been so much drama and awfulness from that woman. It has literally ruined key moments in my life - or his response to it has. And he just will not protect DS from it because he won’t even admit his bad it is.

How did I end up in a situation where I have to worry about this?

candlesandpitchforks · 28/05/2022 19:04

@Notmyzoonotmymonkeys mums back home and DSD called her and it's been arranged DSD will go home tomorrow night. The ex said "it was to prove a point" and DSD keep saying but what point. Giant mess. I have said to DSD that mums probably confused on which weekends are which ect and all is well (while inside I wanna scream). It's fine for her to have a pop at us but don't confuse your own dammed kid... rage.

Might have to start making noises over contact being written in stone/legally. We have DSD 40% time, pay well over the min maintenance - I'm actually really confused about what exactly went wrong this weekend. There's been no drama for ages 😵‍💫

I'm gonna go have wine and chocolate@SoggyPaper wanna join me ? Sounds like you need it !

Hope everyone's weekend is more peaceful than mine !

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SoggyPaper · 28/05/2022 19:18

Yep please @candlesandpitchforks .

what point indeed?

I have never in my life behaved like that to my ex. It would never occur to me to use DS as a weapon or to try to cause drama. Why would I want that? Who benefits?

i just don’t understand these people.

And I am so frustrated with the waste of space I married. Honestly, his first wife behaves truly dreadfully, he then spins this into me being the bad guy for having a problem with it and starts minimising and even making excuses for the awful woman. Yet I get precisely no leeway. No assumption of good faith. None.

Maybe when I’m his second ex-W and he’s (inevitably) found himself a poor sucker to be his new nanny/housekeeper, he’ll treat me better. After all, he’ll have someone else to take the blame.

Except I don’t intend to cause drama because I don’t need this kind of crap. And I care far too much about my child to do this to him.

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