New Year No Cry Sleep Solution Thread

[BertieBotts]

Does anyone want to join me in going through the whole book of the No Cry Sleep Solution and doing it properly, like a New Year's resolution type thing? (I am happy to start a week or few into the new year if people need time to sort things out first, get a copy of the book, etc)

I ask because the first time I read the book, I was quite sleep deprived and frustrated and looking for quick solutions, and didn't really realise that it's not so much a book of suggestions as a process to go through which helps change your thoughts as much as your behaviour surrounding sleep. I did the sleep logs, and then DS was ill, and then it was Christmas and we went away for a week, and I just felt it was pointless starting anything new after all that so I probably need to do the sleep logs again before I start so that I have a better comparison. But as a bonus I already have the different suggestions from chapter 4 summarised with page numbers which should be helpful.

Does anyone want to join me?

Just read the whole thread - brilliant! You've all worked so hard. I got the book a while ago, read it, didn't know where to start and didn't believe it could work with dd (now 6 months). You've inspired me - we start Friday! Assuming I can get dh on board...

Hi all, just wondering if anyone has had any more success? I'm feeling very discouraged at the moment and not sure which parts of the book might help us...

DD turns one next week, and the nights are as bad as ever with frequent wakings. My DH can't seem to settle her, and cuddles don't seem to help... she just screams until I breastfeed her. Luckily she feeds quickly, and tends to pull away once she is calm, so she will then self-settle to some extent. However she never stays asleep very long - she tends to wake up maybe an hour later and the cycle starts again.

We started the sleep logs etc in January, but then DD had colds and two ear infections so that really threw us off track. I keep taking her back to the doctors, but they tell me her ears are now fine, and she is just teething...

I am trying to work through the book, but I just don't understand why DD is still waking so frequently EVERY night, and why she is so upset when she wakes. She is such a happy little girl during the day, and easy to settle for her naps. I know the night wakings are not due to hunger as she has started to eat quite well now at last.

We've just had a particularly bad few nights so I guess I'm feeling down and discouraged, but hopefully I will get the strength to start working through the book again soon...

Hello everyone can I join you please?

We are starting today, I have read the book and have skimmed this thread, will re-read in a minute - you have all been working so hard!

I have a 15mo DD who started off sleeping really well but has been getting steadily worse...all her sleep is associated with BF and I am keen to wean her but gently.

At the moment DD is waking around 8 times a night although I struggle to keep count. She sleeps in a cot in our room but DH is keen to move her to her room asap. DD often ends up in bed with us when I am too tired to stay awake with her.

DD has just started to go to sleep fairly well - we do bath, maybe a story, BF in dark room - usually asleep by 7.30-8.30pm. However until about a week ago DD would often be up and manic until 10 or 11pm.

Day time naps are really hit and miss, some days DD will have two periods of over an hour, some days one three hour nap and most days nothing or a very short catnap - all of these only happen if BF to sleep.

So I am logging today and plan to try the pull off for all feeds but to emphasise the night wakings and to try to get naps regularly even if I have to BF to do it at first.

I find it really hard to keep positive and consistent when it seems nothing is changing aso I am hoping the logs and support from this thread will help.

Good luck to all the new posters just starting with the NCSS! It does work (if you persevere), but illness and teething do set things back - as I'm finding at the moment, as DSs molars are coming through and he's been hideous at night (up for 3-5 hours pn! )... but I think its (slowly) getting better now (fingers crossed).

I've found with this bout of teething that DS won't self-settle at night and just wants to suck constantly (I guess it relieves the pain), so I've kind of given up and gone with it... that and we've ended up watching a good few episodes of Waybuloo in the early hours (weep) when he'd fed for 3 hrs straight and I was sore - I keep reminding myself that its miserable feeling ill. Now that his teeth seem to be through though I'm determined to get back on track, so last night was the 1st night for a week when there was no early hours Waybuloo-ing and that felt like a minor success - even if he did still feed for an hour, at least he went to sleep at the end of it, rather than start screaming again!

What I'm finding is that when it all goes pear-shaped I really need to go back to try to correct the basics, which its easy to let slip when things have improved... things like - Is he getting up the same time each day? Is he being put down for nap at same time? Is he napping too long? Or too close to bedtime? Is bedtime routine consistent and at same time? Is his cot still comfy/have right toys etc? Are he self-settling at all?

Sorry, v long and rambling post...

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What a fabulous thread! please can I join you? I have read the book, done my first set of logs and have a rough sleep plan. I have implemented some solutions and do think they have paid off over the last 2 weeks or so. That said teething has really set us back some nights.

My DD is nearly 10 months. Is BF, sleeps in a cot (or often our bed) in our room and has her 9th tooth coming through and she has really suffered with all of them. She is interested in a dummy or a lovey and won?t take a bottle. We have a DS of 2.2yrs who sleeps well but lightly and DD has a very loud cry so I do attend to her very quickly to stop her from waking him. This has also stopped me from moving her (and possibly me too) to her bedroom.

I am really struggling with the lack of sleep overall. Before I read the book I was finding myself getting really angry in the night and was frightened I would be too rough with her as I need sleep so badly. The book has made me more patient and tender I think. I also find myself short tempered with my DS during the day and I haven?t found a way to stop that yet . Both kids are at home with me all day alone.

Generally my DD will sleep for a few hours when I put her down (about 8pm) but then awake often in the early hours. Like so many others on this thread all I want to do then is get her back to sleep quickly and that can be achieved by putting her to the breast.

I also have the added complication of living in Spain. The nights are getting lighter and warmer and soon it is still very hot until about 9pm. I found last year that I had to push DS?s bedtime out until then to have any hope of him sleeping. This obviously goes against EP?s assertion that babies need early bedtimes.

silence have you all left the thread?