Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia

[spstchmu]

Are you gonna do anything about it? Like, i know the line is that shoving the madness in the feminism board means it's not transphobia. And I know it's been done to death but I'm sick of it. It's not acceptable. Xenophobia, racism and homophobia also increasing.
And no. I won't leave. This is the biggest forum of its kind and it needs to represent and respect us all. And care that it's not.

I read pretty much all of those threads and didn’t see anything like that. Posters had issues with single males or male couples adopting. No-one had issues with a lesbian couple or a single woman. That isn’t a homophobia issue - it’s a male violence issue.

See also- ‘avoid these threads like the plague’.

How should this “kindness” work then?

They should have.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36016542

Attributing killing children to males is dangeous. This was two females.

Very basic stuff, isn’t it? Still waiting for these no doubt extremely compelling arguments that will reassure and convince us that any man who says he is a woman should be considered one. Not heard one here yet, maybe I missed it though?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-36722114

Yes, there are women who have committed horrific crimes. Many less than the amount of men though, regardless of gender identity.

To TRY to get back to homophobia. There has been, understandably, outrage on here about Preston. That poor wee boy. 😪

But the narrative that only gay MEN kill babies is dangerous.

Hence my links about wee Liam Fee. Another poor wee soul.

Two women.

The homophobia about his death was pretty dangerous imo, because it makes people take their eye of the ball about abusive women.

You only need to see the threads on here about women having trauma for most of their lives due to how they were treated by their mother - including turning a blind eye to sexual abuse by their father.

So there was three phobias to discuss. Transphobia, Homophobia and Xenophobia.

Why are we only discussing one of the three?

But the point about the Preston threads is that is not homophobia? The objection some posters raised was about males adopting children - either single (therefore potentially straight) or male couples. How is that homophobia?

And no one says women don’t harm children (or other adults for that matter) but it’s at a vastly reduced rate to men. It’s why we teach children about safer adults - if they’re lost they’re told to find a police officer, someone in a shop wearing a uniform or a woman with children. That’s because those adults are statistically less likely to be predators.

You are commanding me to read your posts, but I’m the one who’s condescending? You are stating that you don’t want to see women’s ‘vaginas’ in women’s changing rooms. The language you use is important, especially when you consider that women’s vaginas are tucked away where you can’t see them. Invisible. Indeed you’d be hard pressed to see their vulvas. Whereas men’s penises are dangling there for all to see. Potentially in women’s changing rooms.

Apparently 0.1% of the male population is 30,000. That’s a lot of potential penises. Too many to be hanging out in women’s changing rooms I reckon.

Yes and teaching children that all women are safe is dangerous. Because not all women are safe.

I do not wish to see your fanny.

That’s the right way. Let people call out what they see as wrong, and we can all argue about it. Far, far better than heavy-handed moderation.

That is quite true but statistically, at population level, women are safer than men.

There is no “narrative that only gay men kill babies” on MN. Many posters (certainly not just FWR) are wary of adoptions of non verbal infants by men only, whether single men or couples. For safeguarding reasons. The point about surrogacy is that many of us believe surrogacy is wrong and should be illegal as it is in some other countries, regardless of the sex of those commissioning it. Obviously gay or single men can’t have babies themselves so they are affected. That pesky reality of sex rearing its head again! There’s a reason they don’t ask “trans women”, isn’t there?

No one literally says all women are safe. But males are much more likely to commit sexual and violent crimes - are you saying you disagree with that position?

That was the basis of the comments on Baby Preston. Which isn’t in my view homophobia as it’s a position on males borne out by the evidence on offending rates. If you think it’s homophobia then you’ll need to explain why so when the posters had no issues with lesbian couples? Your previous post said they should (due to a high profile case of child cruelty) but heterosexual couples have also injured children in their care - so what’s your position - no adoption at all and they all stay in children’s homes?

I also think there are clearly posters who are here to have arguments/stir things up, rather than actually engage with the topics of debate. I know we are not supposed to say there are trolls on here, but it is really obvious that there are.

Statistics don’t matter to a dead child.

Yes, plenty of them. We might disagree on who they are, I guess.

This has nothing to do with my post.

Do you think women being forced to change in front of men - Sandie Peggie and the Darlington nurses for example - is a non-issue?

Well I tried and we’re straight back to Sandie Peggy.

Tried what? The overwhelming majority of posts from those you appear to agree with are about the perceived “transphobia” before anything else. It’s not GC people derailing the thread. You can’t expect to have (and to participate in) a thread laying into other women on MN and them not respond. Sorry and all.

Sandie Peggie and the Darlington nurses (and others) were discriminated against in the workplace because they didn’t want to share a female only space with men. That’s the heart of why gender identity ideology is misogynistic and disregards and disrespects the feelings and needs of women and girls. Wholly relevant to why us boring non-cool women care about this issue so much.

Real female as opposed to pretend female!