Xenophobia, homophonic, transphobia

[spstchmu]

Are you gonna do anything about it? Like, i know the line is that shoving the madness in the feminism board means it's not transphobia. And I know it's been done to death but I'm sick of it. It's not acceptable. Xenophobia, racism and homophobia also increasing.
And no. I won't leave. This is the biggest forum of its kind and it needs to represent and respect us all. And care that it's not.

Can I ask you a genuine question?

See, this is the sort of ridiculous type of argument you have to come up with to defend gender ideology. The pretence that life is not about balance of risks or reducing risks but instead a world of either all or nothing, or conversely, everything is the same.

So men and women are the same, so both are risks and there is no difference between the two so no need to do anything differently or separately.

Or, if you can't end all risks this is some how an argument not to try to stop any risks.

Nothing convinced me more of the wrongness of gender ideology than 'educating myself' on their arguments, in their own words, and realising how absolutely terrible they are. Its all just flailing around looking for post hoc justifications that just don't make sense.

You ok? Tbh, I don't think any of you are. But that's just my opinion on normal and I could be wrong.

And yes, you cannot, under any circumstances, believe that women are safer than men around children.

The threads on here from people who have been abused all their lives tend to concentrate on mothers.

I think the example of GCs being hyperfocused on trans people has been proven by this thread. Very few posts on homophobia or xenophobia.

Though people HAVE tried, but within two posts the GCs are back ranting about a minority.

Except penises are literally used to abuse men and women and children, so yeah actually it does bloody matter!

Yes, I’m not sure how this thread evolved into a discussion about trans people in changing rooms and prisons rather than the moderation policy.

I’ve definitely noticed a rise in both homophobia and xenophobia. The latter, in particular, rarely seems to be addressed even when reported.

What should we do? Cut them off at birth? Oh no, we wouldn't be able to, because they are part of the getting to that stage!

I agree with you but if it's this blanket thing then the human race is done.

Because without one, you and I wouldnt be here.

The latter does my head in, as does the former. I just wish we could have had that discussion. But, not on here it seems.

This is ridiculous hyperbole.
Life is a constant balancing of risks. If a child is lost or afraid of course I would teach them to ask a woman for help because, statistically (and reality and experience) show they are more likely to be safer than a man. You can also add - a woman with a child/children or a woman working in a shop for instance (at work/wearing uniform/known to others/traceable)
Is this foolproof? No. But its the best option taking into account known risks.
Safeguarding is about mitigating known risks to achieve the safest option possible.

Well no, obviously. My point was it absolutely does matter what genitalia a person has, as it determines whether they’re a threat to women and girls.

Yep.

Your loss.

The majority of posts from you and others have focussed on the posts of GC women on MN, so obviously we’re going to exercise our right of reply.

So are you saying all transwomen just wank in the toilets?

I help run my local sports club that has a large juniors section, all the coaches, committee members, captains etc arw DBS checked and have received safeguarding and welfare training. We as a club over the years have had to deal with the police, social workers, parents and schools as we have a number of kids who have welfare plans in place due to previous trauma (bullying, sexual abuse). One thing you realise very early on is that men, and it is overwhelmingly men, will go to extraordinary lengths to get close to and isolate their victims. This is why we have a raft of policies and procedures in place to protect both the children and vulnerable adults at the club. The fact that some people are arguing for these safeguarding policies to be waived or ignored in order to protect the feelings of trans identified men is extraordinary.

Why are you misrepresenting her point?

Isn’t it enough that some unknown number do? They shouldn’t be in women’s toilets, because they are men. Their presence is a harassment in and of itself.

Yeah but when it comes to female prisoners, there is a lot they don't have a voice about and nobody gives a shit. If you care about prisoners, you would care about their actual problems. Not the ones you think they should have. So if the only thing you speak about in terms of female prisoners are transwomen, then you arent really advocating for them. You're advocating for you.

Honestly, no. Some women take crack in the toilets. This just seems like you are against trans women, not ASB in public bathrooms

Ban the TURF! Wildflowers rule! Down with homophones!

Did not know that Cathy Newman posted here.

I’m against men being in women’s toilets, because they are men. What I think about gender identity ideology is irrelevant.

Trust me, I know. But does that stop people from having husbands, male friends, relationships with their dads, uncles etc. ? Not very often.

A random pre-op trans woman is no more of a threat than any of the men in your life.

A random man is just as much a threat as any other random man. Pre op or post op.

Very revealing statement. The idea that TW should be entitled to use women's spaces is predicated on the false idea that they are no more threat than any of the women in your life. The men are already not allowed in women's spaces.