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TransAgenda BullShit: The I am Spartacus Thread

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OscarDeLaYenta · 25/08/2016 19:17

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SmellyHead · 25/08/2016 20:32

What they ^ said.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 25/08/2016 20:34

ER, yeah. I'm seek and like I said on the other thread when I said this would be a good idea.... All the above. Glad you thought it was a good idea!

VikingLady · 25/08/2016 20:34

As a woman with a daughter, I am horrified and terrified at the rapid demolition job being carried out on hard-won women's rights by mysogynistic men, who cannot be criticised because they have decided they are in fact women.

And am even more horrified that I'm apparently not allowed to discuss it.

mirandayardley · 25/08/2016 20:35

I am Miranda. I am a transsexual male.

Transwomen are not women and transmen are not men, by any definition, and it is dangerous and damaging to both transwomen and transmen to insist we are respectively women and men.

There is no such thing as a lesbian with a penis. Stating there is, is lesbophobic and homophobic.

WanderingNotLost · 25/08/2016 20:35

I am Wandering. If you have XX chromosomes you are female/a woman. If you have XY chromosomes you are male/a man. The only exceptions are for genuinely intersex individuals of whom there are very few.
Men can wear dresses, make-up, change their names, get boob implants etc if they so wish. Whatever makes them happy. It does not make them female.

brasty · 25/08/2016 20:36

I am brasty. I know that biology is real, and not a social construct. I don't care how anyone lives their life if it does not harm someone else. But the transgender movement is harming women and children.

whatlifestylechoice · 25/08/2016 20:39

I am what. I have a five-month-old daughter. If my daughter grows up and wants to "live as a man", I will support her, I will use her preferred pronoun, I will defend her against anyone who wants to hurt or embarrass her. I will do the same for anyone else I encounter in a similar situation.

I have wiped my daughter's arse enough times to know that she is female. I know what biology looks like.

I am woman. Hear me roar.

Mrsmorton · 25/08/2016 20:41

I am Mrsmorton; I am a scientist and healthcare professional.

Women cannot become men, men cannot become women.

Lesbians cannot have penises; people with penises (men) must not be allowed to invade the safe spaces that women have fought over centuries so hard to secure.

I respect the right of everyone to live their lives without fear of discrimination or violence. That includes women.

SpaceUnicorn · 25/08/2016 20:43

I'm in.

I have daughters and I will do everything I can to ensure that they do not inherit a society wherein men with penises who choose to call themselves women erode the right to safe, female-only spaces.

There's no such thing as a woman with a penis.

2legit2knit · 25/08/2016 20:44

I'm Spartacus
Transwomen are not women
Transmen are not men
Cis is bollocks.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 25/08/2016 20:45

I am VVVQV.

There is no such thing as a lesbians with a penis.

There is no such thing as a woman with a penis.

You are not assigned sex at birth, you HAVE a sex at birth.

Gender is a social construct.

A man cannot become a woman, and a woman cannot become a man.

Transgenderism is the bull's udders.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/08/2016 20:45

I am ItsAllGoingToBeFine

My 6 year old DD wears trousers and has short hair. She is not trans. She is not gender non-conforming or any of the other bullshit made up labels. She is female, a girl, and uniquely her.

Nothing a man can do can make them a woman.
Nothing a woman can do can make them a man.

He is a pronoun used to describe male, she a pronoun used to describe female.

All of these statements are not transphobic ideology, but fact.

NauticalDisaster · 25/08/2016 20:46

MtT is a subset of male, FtT is a subset of female.

I won't misgender as I don't want to be banned but I won't use incorrect pronouns either. As an example, Paris Lees post on twitter and expresses Paris Lees' opinions on things that affect Paris Lees' life.

limitedperiodonly · 25/08/2016 20:47

I am Limited.

I am glad for people to be whoever they want to be as long as they hurt nobody else.

MNHQ: please stop hurting women.

abbsismyhero · 25/08/2016 20:47

I am abbs I'm on my phone so I cant copy and paste but I'm with this lot women do not have female penises

I fear for my teen daughter growing up in this world of censorship and abuse

As a side note my 7 year old knows boys have penis and girls do not he is not transphobic

CheerfulYank · 25/08/2016 20:47

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PikachuSayBoo · 25/08/2016 20:47

I am Pikachu.

I do believe in science and biology.

If someone chooses to have a sex change hormones, surgery, etc and identify as a different gender then I would use the pronoun they prefer.

However if a bloke with a penis (and often a beard) sticks on a dress in my mind they are a bloke wearing a dress. The pronoun "they" is bollocks.

However I would never be nasty or bullying towards anyone......as I'm sure the majority of MUmsnetters wouldn't.

Ana Lee is a man
Ada Wells is a man.

I don't know the others so can't comment.

LunaLoveg00d · 25/08/2016 20:48

I'm Luna.

Woman = female adult with a womb and vagina.
Man = male adult with a penis.

I don't believe that being female has anything to do with pink, make-up, dresses or high heels any more than being male has to do with guns, rugby and camouflage clothing. I don't believe that anyone can change their biological sex. There is no such thing as a female penis.

I fully support the right of people of either sex to sleep with who they like, wear what they like and choose whatever first name they like to call themselves. I don't support the right of men to infringe on the rights and privacy of women and girls.

Saucery · 25/08/2016 20:49

I am Saucery.

I will not be censored when I say that men cannot become women.
I will respect the rights of transwomen but I will not be silenced for stating biological truths.

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Quodlibet · 25/08/2016 20:49

I agree with all the above.
I can't find it to C&P, but I think that another poster's religion analogy on the other thread was spot on.

wherethewildthingis · 25/08/2016 20:51

I am Wildthing.

I think anyone should be able to do or wear whatever they like- I believe gender is a bullshit social construct. I believe if a boy wants to wear a skirt and makeup he should be able to, without being told he is "in the wrong body" and needs to undergo invasive treatment.

I do not believe a man can ever become a woman. I am shocked and scared that men who think they can become women are eroding women's rights- to safe space, equality of opportunity, and free speech.

smarterthanhim · 25/08/2016 20:52

I've been off mn for years, but logging back in to say I'm smart and men are not women and this 'progressive' bullshit is taking us back 100yrs. Trans should live as they please without harassment, but men, keep the fuck out of our spaces.

Pastamancer · 25/08/2016 20:53

I am Pasta and agree that you cannot change sex.

I refuse to agree that transwomen are women in exactly the same way that I refuse to agree that an anorexic person is obese.

Waltermittythesequel · 25/08/2016 20:54

Further, I want you to ban the term 'cis' since you're so fond of banning.

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