Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

Nice one jason
Imo mn hq have proved by that deletion message that they have listened.
We have. Tokeep reporting and perhaps just ignore the gf
It is hard sometimes as they dress up as one of us and then derail.
User whatsit is a prime example.

Looking at stats to detemine when you need staff? What, so youre not on call by some sort of batsignal system then?

If you give me some admin privileges i will Absolutly go mad with power and abuse the system because i hold grudges and will act like a power mad super vilian be happy to help.

@BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts

Looking at stats to detemine when you need staff? What, so youre not on call by some sort of batsignal system then?

I long for a Batphone, but alas, no

I've always wondered how they managed to wire the bat phone into the batcave and still have it remain a secret location, surely the Telephone engineers realised the entrance was in Bruce Wayne’s bookcase?

Sounds like real progress has been made at MNHQ and the effort is appreciated. The best bit has to be feeling heard. [Wine]

Glad you mention about the troll hunting too but I do wonder if there is a little wiggle room, in talk terms, to allow a single venting thread within special needs chat? It could be for post having reported a post/ thread. A peaceful place to let off steam or ask others if they have the energy to go educate.

I do appreciate that there could be a learning curve of balance to strike between education and troll hunting. The thing is some days I don't feel like educating. Others, the majority, I clearly get its the way forwards. It could be rather like this thread has been in places a place to offer a little bit of solidarity.

Please not in the sn topic
Alot of people dont post there because they do not have a child with sn.
Mine is an adult
How about the other stufftopic
I think it would be useful
Sometimes we get it wrong , its useful if some from your "team" can say that

If the idea goes down okay it wouldn't matter to me where on the site it was. The only reason I put SNChat was I believe that it doesn't come up in active conversations so less likely to attract posters who are gf and appear to stick to active threads.

I think it's a good idea and doesnt matter where it is really although not keen on idea of it being seen as a "team" or "brigade" thing or getting told off ,.sorry

Well..support is a good idea..although I see polters point too. Guess that can be done by PM too

I dont postin sn
The team bit was a joke not serious
I do hpe this isn't going to turn into a sn children thing, even the op of this thread doesnt post in sn

I can see why you read it that way and that theres a risk it could go that way. I was thinking more of just a place to have a good old fashioned vent amongst people who dont need educating to sympathise.

Maybe sticking to PMs is better. I am happy so far with the outcome, will just need to see how it pans out, would hate for everyone to start arguing amongst selves about it.

The second class citizen thread is good for a vent...

Bishop i have lurked on that thread its good

Any chance of a link Bishop?

There's another one on AIBU questioning the validity of private diagnoses.
You just pay for a private diagnosis so you can get extra help for your child apparently. I have reported it.

It's laughable that anyone can think that happens anywhere near enough to be a problem.

One of my dc has a private diagnosis. Funnily, she is the one who gets least support (not because she doesn't need it, but because the school refuse to see what is happening). So that was money well spent, then

The other two went through the NHS system - one is in SN school, the other one, school (same school as privately diagnosed child) is tripping over themselves to put support in place. No idea why the difference in treatment.

Well if you want to give your child an advantage over other kids, you take them to a private specialist who will be able to find something to diagnose them with (because we all have a bit of something), then with the diagnosis you can just get anything you need to help them.

I had no idea it was that simple. If I'd known, I wouldn't have gone through all the assessment and fight for support I went through for my kids.

How about otbt? Not for telling tales and lighting up the batsignal specifically, just to carry on this thread and perhaps highlight any relevant posts/threads

My piss just reached boil point.

Erm, hi.

About page 8 there were some potato comments.

It was me who coined the phrase because there was a poster with potato in the NN who decided that children 'like that' (Maddy's DS) shouldn't think that the room set aside for them to be able to safely chill out should be solely for his use.

I managed to spell it correctly though...

The way SN parents are treated and spoken to, they way children and adults with SN are spoken about and to on MN is fucking despicable.

Yes, I'm late to the party, but I wanted to get my rant in on behalf of my DS as well.

(Thanks for the info re: deputyship, there's fuck all services here for 16-20 yr olds, so they can poke telling me how DS is going to live his life up their collective arses)