Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

annoyed to see a goady thread about people fixing the system to get a dx

I just both reported it and replied to it now

Re: 'paying for a diagnosis'. There is a school of thought that private dx are less valid and if we just delete those conversations it's not really helping or changing attitudes. There needs to be a response (not necessarily from people with DC with SEND or with SEND themselves) because otherwise. We are just whitewashing the problem.

I think it could go two ways - people understand and moderate their attitudes, or people leave MN. Unfortunately a lot of the views expressed are fairly mainstream and u think are a bit grey in terms of whether they are out and out disablist.

We did pay for part of the dx for one DC to avoid a long wait over the Sunmer. So I don't buy into them being useless, obviously.

To clarify - reported because i think mn publically backing up our viewpoint could be beneficial, not because i want it deleted.

could we just post a link to this thread as a response to all gf threads or would that backfire?

Have reported the paying for dx thread too so lets see if it works...

What about a standard response from Mumsnet?

Something referencing the SEND framework exists to support children and young people, that confidentiality means you may not know all the circumstances and that if you are fortunate enough not to exist in that world maybe trust that the professionals and families are acting to support someone?

I don't know. Deletion just covers it up and individual responses is a bit difficult.

Winning, i think if someone maybe set up another thread (like maybe a 'stupid/nasty shit people have said/done to you re disability' one) we could link to it in future?

it seems to be a thing now to nc to post stuff about a child with sn that you "know"
and I also get angry with the supposed professionals that appear on these threads. often you can tell they are not what they seem, as they use the wrong language (sn for Sen for example)

I also get angry with the supposed professionals that appear on these threads. often you can tell they are not what they seem, as they use the wrong language (sn for Sen for example)

Yes this gets me as well, and the posters who suddenly appear out of the woodwork who have dozens of children with special needs.
There's a nappies at school thread in primary education which has a "HEADTEACHER" of a main stream school posting in it. apparently she has 10 students who are incontent at her school, no 1:1's for any of her disabled students... and tried to do the guilt trip "Wasting the time TA's spend with other children" thing.
she's been put to rights.

I came on here to say something about the fiddling the system thread. where are they all coming from?

I think mnhq misunderstood our reports!!

Either that or maryz has been playing the trolling long game!?

I've reported my post ^

I'm guessing someone at hq meant to ban user and hit the wrong red button!?

could it have been because it was leading to a bunfight?

well a thread saying dx's can be paid for and mean nothing.....stays

a thread about the shite that is said to parents every day.....deleted
WTF

I think they thought user### started it? Maybe?