should we address the casual antisemitism on MN?

[thedevilinmyshoes]

I rarely venture beyond my narrow range of interests on MN these days so I don't know if it happens a lot, or if a similar level of hatred is extended to other groups, but what I saw tonight was sinister (particularly against the current backdrop of a surge in antisemitic crime in UK). I wondered if we had an agreed definition of what constitutes antisemitism or if people feel the issue is covered and handled well enough within the existing guidelines.

I agree.

I must have missed this. What were you thinking of?

Where's this?

What do you mean, OP? Haven't noticed anything aside from the regular background levels of eg 'circumcision is barbaric' threads...?

Link?

Huh wat? Is there anti-seminism on MN?

The thread about the bris? It is genital mutilation without pain relief.

I haven't picked up on this either , what happened ?

thankfully I cannot link to it as the material hasn't been left to stand so it might be that the current guidelines against racism go far enough - it is a highly specific kind of racism though and I wondered if now would be a good time for users and HQ to agree upon a definition of what constitutes antisemitic material

it was so casual it was breathtaking

Ah I thought it was the taxi driver one.

objecting to the circumcision of babies for non medical reasons is not anti semitism

if it was a mad one off thing I happened to have stumbled upon then we don't need to have this chat and that will be great :)

honestly don't know how widespread it is, that's why I started this thread, not to rehash one that was removed but to find out if other people have noticed a problem and if so whether anything can be done to address it

Thanks stargirl1701 for providing such a quick, ready example of the sort of casual antisemitism I just mentioned. I barely had to blink! Didn't see the taxi driver thread, what happened? Glad it was deleted if was nasty.

I don't think stargirl was being antisemitic. Jews aren't the only people to routinely circumcise their sons, it's very widespread in America for example. Being anti-circumcision isn't the same as being anti-Semitic.

You get the odd Israel-bashing thread, but that's not anti-semantic

I don't agree that circumcision is genital mutilation but saying so does not make stargirl anti-Semite.

Don't agree with her but will fight for her right to say her opinion, and all that.

Taxi driver one was about a Turkish driver overstepping the expected boundaries. here

TBH I've never been aware of antisemitism on MN, devil - would certainly report if I was.

Removal of part of the genitals for non-medical reasons is seen by many as general mutilation. Female or male. It's not anti-Semitic to say so. Other religions do the same as well as many Americans who may not even have a religion.

Anti circumcision (not for medical reasons) is not anti Semitic

Was it something else?

That taxi thread

Of course circumcision is genital mutilation

I oppose FGM too not just circumcision. My opposition for genital mutilation is not restricted to one faith group.

Are you going to say what was so sinister OP?

You say 'the casual antisemitism on MN' as though it's an established issue but then say you've only seen one incidence of it and won't refer to it.

I'm not saying it isn't there, I just haven't seen it, and now you've got me all confused...

objecting to the circumcision of babies for non medical reasons is not anti semitism"

Totally agree. I have lost count of the number of threads where anyone voicing objections to circumcision gets accused of being anti-Semitic.