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In what circumstances would this happen MNHQ?

133 replies

DameFellatioNelson · 04/10/2013 19:31

A poster's entire history being deleted 'at poster's request'.

I realise it has happened when there have been serious issues regarding someone's personal privacy, being outed or somehow being made to feel vulnerable/threatened in RL as a result of what they posted on MN, but why else?

I thought your policy was not to delete posts (providing they fell were within the TALK guidelines) unless they seriously compromised someone's privacy or safety, or there was potentially a legal issue.

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Reality · 05/10/2013 10:32

I've had all my posts deleted by the very lovely MNHQ, I can never thank them enogh because I know it was a hige ask (there were about 30,000 posts iirc Blush)

But I did have to ask VERY nicely and it was for a very good reason.

Fenton · 05/10/2013 10:33

I thought I saw this the other day (i.e what you're OP is about) - didn't know the entire posting history had been wiped out.

That's quite something Shock

Fenton · 05/10/2013 10:34

x-post with you Reality, lovely to see you by the way Smile

Reality · 05/10/2013 10:38

Hi Fenton Grin

ExitPursuedByADragon · 05/10/2013 11:24

How did you get on usual?

Or did you bottle it?

DameFellatioNelson · 05/10/2013 11:24

There would be absolutely no point in namechanging if your posts are still up there for some weirdo stalker to find, would there?

I agree. but I do NC nonetheless, but only ever to protect myself from being outed/stalked by people I know in RL. I can't stop it happening but I can make it harder work, by keeping on the move as it were.

I did once get very panicky and ask MNHQ to delete a bunch of posts that specifically referred to the country I had moved to (and they very kindly indulged me) because it made me pretty identifiable to anyone who knew me in the UK. Anyone motivated enough to spend a couple of hours AS-ing could piece together enough aspects of my life in the UK and match them up with my new posts about moving abroad, and the relevant timings etc, and see clearly that it was me. It would be a piece of piss.

At the time I was a new expat and I was on a few Expat message boards doing a bit of networking as you do, and my mother cheerfully announced that she'd been on a fact-finding mission about the place I'd moved to and she'd recognised me (even with an avatar) from those boards. To say I was spooked and appalled was an understatement, because she is very nosey and a master internet stalker of everyone she ever knew EVER because she's bored and has no life. I'd said nothing of interest/controversy on there at all but MN is another matter entirely....and I felt potentially quite creeped out and like a really important part of myself had been violated. Like she'd read my diary. Which is possibly an over-reaction on my part because I don't even know if MN is on her radar at all, but the thought of it made me feel a bit sick.

I have NCed reasonably regularly ever since, but I know that a few choice key words would make it easy for her (or anyone) to work out my other user names, and gather a trail, should they feel so inclined. But the onus is on me to be a little bit sensible and circumspect, isn't it?

Much though I'd sleep well at night knowing no-one could ever do another AS on me, I admit I love a good AS myself from time to time, so I just have to roll with it, like everyone else. At least I think like everyone else? And if I've ever been an utter arse, or contradicted myself and it's there to haunt me and give ammunition to others forever more then tough titty, I'd have thought. It has never occurred to me to ask for an entire history deletion though I wish for it often usually the morning after too much gin has been taken and I may have over-shared.

I'm fairly sure the answer would be 'No' anyway, unless I could prove some dire/urgent need like in the handful of previous very well documented cases. But they tend to come off the back of well documented exciting/terrible back stories that go around MN like wildfire so it's obviously a bit Confused when it happens out of the blue for no reason you can think of.

I'd just like to know where the criteria/boundaries are set with MNHQ and that it is applied consistently and fairly and not just because someone's thrown their toys out of the pram. Or if they have then can I throw mine out too if I feel like it? Grin

But I realise that:

a) MNHQ can use their discretion however they see fit and do not have to explain themselves to me, or anyone, and

b) there may be a serious security/privacy issue I am unaware of.

But I don't expect or even want them to comment on specific cases.

So is that it then MNHQ? TSSDNCOP? Nothing to add?

And to all the people who have PMed asking for some juicy detail, forgive me if I don't answer any of you personally. There is no great drama or gossip to divulge - at least if there is then I am certainly not party to it, so no point in asking me. Grin

I just wanted to know where we all stood on our histories, for the reasons outlined above.

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LaQueenForADay · 05/10/2013 12:15

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 12:37

Tee. It doesnt mean that MNHQ will never sell us on so to speak. Not sure if they are bound by some code of conduct on this?

And if we were all sold to a 3rd party, realistically MNHQ would then have no say whatsoever.

So, for me and the op and others, namechanging and being a bit careful of what we post is the name of the game.

BOF · 05/10/2013 12:37

MNHQ are pretty sensible about this stuff, and they don't do it lightly. I think you just have to assume there is a reason you don't know about, if you feel puzzled.

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 12:39

I dont think that marketing opt out has anything to do with this?

BOF · 05/10/2013 12:41

MNHQ are an ethical company, it's at the core of their ethos. They bent over backwards to protect the details of a certain rockets to Lebanon poster, even under a lot of legal pressure. They are not selling anybody's emails to marketing companies.

JohnnyUtah · 05/10/2013 12:47

Why did Xenia get protected though? She had made herself really identifiable for years and years.

MacaYoniandCheese · 05/10/2013 13:11

Dame is your Mom my Mom? Grin. My main motivation for NCing is because my mother is like the Nancy Drew of the Internet. I do NOT want her all up in my bizness.

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 13:53

I think Xenia was outed in the papers? Something to do with her daughter's upcoming wedding?

ModeratelyObvious · 05/10/2013 14:17

Xenia's past posts are still up, though some may have gone on an individual basis.

ExitPursuedByADragon · 05/10/2013 15:56

Has Xenia gone? I never had a clue who she was.

I wish I had a mother to stalk me. Sad

^^
Joke

bsc · 05/10/2013 17:18

arf@"Nancy Drew of the internet"!

chub that is pretty fucking freaky! Hope you've had nothing like that since.

Moderately- posts before a certain date have had Xenia's name changed to an innocuous postername.

Has Xenia gone then? (I don't spend much time here these days)

I used to read her posts over on the Times women's thingy (run by Jennifer Howse and another, can;t remember name, too long ago) and I remember being Shock when I found her on here!

bsc · 05/10/2013 17:19

Exit did you used to have an animal different to a dragon at the end of your name?

DameFellatioNelson · 05/10/2013 17:24

'animal different to dragon' really narrows it down. Grin

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bsc · 05/10/2013 17:50

Blush sorry- no idea if it was changed for a joke, or to evade stalkerish behaviour, or completely different poster... hence being vague! If it is she, she will know Grin

DameFellatioNelson · 05/10/2013 18:38

Oh I see what you mean - sorry, I get it now. I didn't realise she had dragon in her name now. I feel daft now. You made perfect sense after all. Blush

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Hadmypostsdeleted · 05/10/2013 18:57

I had my posts deleted because I was being stalked across here. In the words of the police my stalker was "not displaying normal behaviour". I am eternally grateful to MNHQ for doing it.

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 19:16

I had no idea that internet stalking was happening so often.

Portofino · 05/10/2013 19:19

A lot of the prolific posters on FWR had HUGE issues with stalking. So many no longer post. It is MN's loss Sad

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 19:30

I am just taking that in Portofino. That is horrific Sad. Were they following them across the board, or had they got hold of personal information by hacking or something? Dont reply if it isnt a good idea.

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