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What is a pervert?

517 replies

FordAnglia · 19/11/2023 11:17

I seem to recall two or three times in this bit of the board where folks have cruised by and used the word pervert, but when I have politely asked for a definition of the term/asked what they mean, the question has always been swerved. I have even been advised to google it, which to my mind seems dubious if not avoidant advice.

The term seems to be tossed around a fair bit, though usually I let it pass.

So what do the good folks of the sex board define the term as?

This is also an opportunity of course for those folks who have avoided questions to have their say and educate us.

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FriedOkra · 09/12/2023 14:55

you are the person who had a mega list I seem to remember - must admit I doubted the evidence of some.

Wrong again. Not my list. You think @NewRoses has made up those things? I’ve seen quite a lot of those types of things myself and reported them, presumably others have too. Maybe ask mumsnet if you doubt them, there haas been a lot of threads and posts deleted. You really must miss A LOT if you have never seen anything pervy.

lasswibenefits · 09/12/2023 15:20

Mermaidparades · 09/12/2023 14:14

@NewRoses 😂 yes, Ma’am!

@Mermaidparades what is funny about incest and teen sex pornographic sites?

Mermaidparades · 09/12/2023 15:25

@lasswibenefits I’m a middle aged woman, I was laughing at being scolded like a naughty child.

lasswibenefits · 09/12/2023 15:31

I don't get why you'd laugh at posting links to teen sex and incest porn. Especially given the trafficking of women into porn being so prevalent.

I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination but I don't get what is funny about sites that link to teen sex and incest.

I certainly wouldn't ask in this section of mn for advice on sex (or at least, the sort of sex I like and enjoy with my partner(s))- there are better sites for that.

NewRoses · 09/12/2023 15:34

I’m a middle aged woman, I was laughing at being scolded like a naughty child.

I asked you to please be more careful when adding links. I was polite, I didn’t scold you like a naughty child. You do like to twist things.

I noticed you ignored the rest of my post.

NewRoses · 09/12/2023 15:35

That was to @Mermaidparades

NewRoses · 09/12/2023 15:37

@FordAnglia Was it my list you refer to? All real I’m afraid, as much as you might say you doubt some of it.

FordAnglia · 09/12/2023 15:39

NewRoses · 09/12/2023 15:37

@FordAnglia Was it my list you refer to? All real I’m afraid, as much as you might say you doubt some of it.

maybe - will check out later.

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BIWI · 09/12/2023 15:43

Of course I suppose some would like to see any sex section/sex board limited to medical problems

I don't think anyone has said that, have they? Hmm

I don't think anyone has an issue with a sex topic per se. The issue is when it's become a place for sleazy chat or very dubious posts (as listed/discussed throughout this thread) or posts that are clearly made as wank fodder.

FordAnglia · 09/12/2023 15:45

lasswibenefits · 09/12/2023 15:20

@Mermaidparades what is funny about incest and teen sex pornographic sites?

am not aware that mermaid was laughing at incest.
As for "links", the entire internet is linked, just as roads are (all roads lead to Rome/Bradford/tunbridge wells) so I don't see how you can damn anything for a site that may have offshoots. Otherwise Mnet would be shut down.
Teen sex? well not illegal beyond a certain age, gay or straight, though I have long had no interest in it.

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lasswibenefits · 09/12/2023 15:48

Are you actually trying to mansplain the internet to me?

You really have no need to do that. FYI.

Mumsnet have said that links that are NSFW should not be posted here. Do you consider teen sex and incest porn to be SFW? That would certainly be an usual perspective.

GuiltyStranger · 09/12/2023 15:49

I asked you to please be more careful when adding links. I was polite, I didn’t scold you like a naughty child. You do like to twist things.

You were polite. I would like @Mermaidparades to tell us how it was being scolded.

GuiltyStranger · 09/12/2023 15:58

As for "links", the entire internet is linked, just as roads are (all roads lead to Rome/Bradford/tunbridge wells) so I don't see how you can damn anything for a site that may have offshoots. Otherwise Mnet would be shut down.

I saw the link that mermaid posted. It was much talked about. It wasn’t an ‘offshoot’. One click on the home page brought up a list of ‘interests’, one of which was teen and one was incest. I think even mermaids apologised at the time and said it wasn’t appropriate. They said they didn’t realise, we’ll never know if they did or not, but they did at least admit it wasn’t appropriate, so stop trying to justify it.

Teen sex? well not illegal beyond a certain age, gay or straight, though I have long had no interest in it.

You know exactly why it’s described as teen sex. Ffs.

Since87 · 09/12/2023 18:11

I don't think anyone has an issue with a sex topic per se. The issue is when it's become a place for sleazy chat or very dubious posts (as listed/discussed throughout this thread) or posts that are clearly made as wank fodder.

They are deliberately misunderstanding. Posters have explained this again and again.

Since87 · 09/12/2023 18:13

I’m a middle aged woman, I was laughing at being scolded like a naughty child.

The poster very nicely asked you to please be more careful when posting links. How is that anything like what you are suggesting?

Since87 · 09/12/2023 18:27

Teen sex? well not illegal beyond a certain age, gay or straight, though I have long had no interest in it.

Minimising the problems with these sites referring to teens is sickening and feels very sinister.

FordAnglia · 10/12/2023 15:03

Since87 · 09/12/2023 18:27

Teen sex? well not illegal beyond a certain age, gay or straight, though I have long had no interest in it.

Minimising the problems with these sites referring to teens is sickening and feels very sinister.

I do trust this isn't some attempt to claim I'm "minimising"/excusing incest or sex with minors. For I am definitely not. Nor is anyone on here I have seen, including mermaids.

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OneAndTheSame · 10/12/2023 22:51

Teen sex? well not illegal beyond a certain age, gay or straight, though I have long had no interest in it.

Why do you think they use the word teen OP? Who do you think they’re trying to appeal to exactly? Have you read anything on this subject, because I have, and it’s no coincidence that the people used look a lot younger than 18 even if they are 18+.

DancingAllNight · 11/12/2023 14:06

@Mermaidparades How were you scolded like a naughty child? You were asked to please be more careful with links. You seem prone to exaggeration. Being asked nicely to do something which will make the board better is now being scolded like a naughty child, I can see why you view being disagreed with and challenged as bullying. 🤦‍♀️ It’s quite difficult to have discussion with people like that.

DancingAllNight · 11/12/2023 14:12

Why do you think they use the word teen OP? Who do you think they’re trying to appeal to exactly? Have you read anything on this subject, because I have, and it’s no coincidence that the people used look a lot younger than 18 even if they are 18+.

All of this.

Justifying this on a technicality, that some my be 18 or 19 is disturbing. The word teen is used deliberately. Men looking at teen sex are perverted. It pushes boundaries, just like the incest topic being about step siblings. Perverted.

EverybodySayBigStretch · 11/12/2023 19:47

@DancingAllNight Well said. Anyone looking at those is perverted.

GuiltyStranger · 12/12/2023 08:02

Justifying this on a technicality, that some my be 18 or 19 is disturbing. The word teen is used deliberately. Men looking at teen sex are perverted. It pushes boundaries, just like the incest topic being about step siblings. Perverted.

I agree it’s perverted.

brunettemic · 12/12/2023 14:25

Interesting question…I guess it does come down to the individual. For example, some people might think anal sex is “perverted” (I don’t, it’s just not for me) or some might think anything other than missionary with the lights off is for “perverts”. Really what I, or anyone else describes as a pervert will differ.

GuiltyStranger · 12/12/2023 16:31

@brunettemic There are common things that many women have explained are perverted with specific examples of it on mumsnet. Every woman and the nice men I know in real life would agree.

TheShellBeach · 12/12/2023 17:10

brunettemic · 12/12/2023 14:25

Interesting question…I guess it does come down to the individual. For example, some people might think anal sex is “perverted” (I don’t, it’s just not for me) or some might think anything other than missionary with the lights off is for “perverts”. Really what I, or anyone else describes as a pervert will differ.

Have you read the whole thread? Many examples of perversion have been made, and child sexual abuse, bestiality and various other things have been suggested.

I am pretty sure that the majority of people (including me) would not consider anal sex (with consent) to be perverted.

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