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Views on Sunak 'blocking gender bill'

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leepinglizards · 16/01/2023 19:49

I would describe myself as gender critical and opposed to this bill but this doesn't sit right with me.

Sturgeon will just bleat on and on about sovereignty and he's handed her more of a platform IMO.

What do you all think?

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Saddogmum73 · 16/01/2023 19:52

I am sure she will use it to fuel the independence agenda. That aside I don’t believe the age should be reduced, I think there are so many complexities in this and more thought is required rather than rush in.

Theunamedcat · 16/01/2023 19:52

Someone needs to block the bill rather than throw women and children under the bus why not him? Is it because of the visual? Westminster blocking? You think this will strengthen her squeals for indyref 2?

Meceme · 16/01/2023 19:53

Good for him. This would cause huge issues with the Equality Act to have different regulations across the UK and it is not representative of the will of ghe general Scots population according to polling. If it forces an election then at least the population gets to vote directly.

Bookworm333 · 16/01/2023 19:54

I'm a bit torn between thinking good for him and thank goodness for that, versus worrying this is going to cause a surge in support for independence.

Auntieobem · 16/01/2023 19:59

Good for him. If anything this whole debacle has made me less likely to vote for independence, I'll never vote SNP again.

Pollyumbrella · 16/01/2023 20:01

I think this will work against her independence agenda

Timeforachangeisitnot · 16/01/2023 20:02

Given that Scotland has no second chamber and that this power of veto has not been used before, I would say it’s very sensible.

As is often the case it’s an ill-thought piece of legislation, based on on-trend vote chasing.

The Scottish Government’s parochial inability to consider the wider impacts of their legislation, coupled with a desire to put every brain-fart into law is hardly the action of a leadership ready for independence on a world stage.

dcbc1234 · 16/01/2023 20:03

I am relieved. Thank you Rishi Sunak.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 16/01/2023 20:04

It’s only going to bring support for the independence cause if Scotland was firmly behind the bill. Surely they have more sense than this.

midgetastic · 16/01/2023 20:05

Far better would have been to tighten the equality act

leepinglizards · 16/01/2023 20:05

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 16/01/2023 20:04

It’s only going to bring support for the independence cause if Scotland was firmly behind the bill. Surely they have more sense than this.

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leepinglizards · 16/01/2023 20:06

Pollyumbrella · 16/01/2023 20:01

I think this will work against her independence agenda

Happy to hear anything that will, do you mind me asking why you think this?

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leepinglizards · 16/01/2023 20:07

Bookworm333 · 16/01/2023 19:54

I'm a bit torn between thinking good for him and thank goodness for that, versus worrying this is going to cause a surge in support for independence.

This is where I'm at too.

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Pinkbonbon · 16/01/2023 20:08

Hoping and praying he does.

I'm an independence supporter but would never vote snp again after this. They don't protect women.

Tbf, not sure the other parties would either.

DuesToTheDirt · 16/01/2023 20:11

Yay, the Tories have done something useful!

I'm one who thinks Nicola provoked this deliberately to garner support for independence. But I also think it could backfire on her.

DuesToTheDirt · 16/01/2023 20:16

leepinglizards · 16/01/2023 20:06

Happy to hear anything that will, do you mind me asking why you think this?

I think so too, because there will be a number of independence supporters who don't agree with this bill and consequently change their minds about independence.

I would perhaps have been one of them, if I didn't already have my doubts this time round about independence, due to wanting to be in the EU but not wanting a Scottish-English border.

LauraNicolaides · 16/01/2023 20:17

I've no strong feelings on the issue in the bill, but I do have strong feelings on Westminster overreach, and I'm hoping that this will intensify feelings on that, and increase the likelihood of another referendum.

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maddy68 · 16/01/2023 20:25

English politics should stay out of Scottish politics

DoggyDwelling · 16/01/2023 20:27

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LauraNicolaides · 16/01/2023 20:17

I've no strong feelings on the issue in the bill, but I do have strong feelings on Westminster overreach, and I'm hoping that this will intensify feelings on that, and increase the likelihood of another referendum.

This.

100% this is what is emerging within my own circle.

The soft Nos are beginning to understand that power devolved is actually power retained.

DuckBored · 16/01/2023 20:28

I’m glad this is happening. It should never have passed in first place. Unsure on consequences on independence. The whole mess has put me off the snp more and made it unlikely I would vote for them or independence. However, I am worried it will lead to the usual “Westminster are controlling us evil Westminster” vibes again.

boojongles · 16/01/2023 20:28

The only sensible thing a Tory has done in years.

radrado · 16/01/2023 20:28

Thank Christ! Just shows how you need a sense check in parliament. The vast majority of the population were not in favour.

A bit worried about how it’s going to play out but she’s certainly nailed her non feminist colours to the mast. Hoping itweakens the case for independence. They’re so inept it’s embarrassing. The Greens in particular just make me actually cringe. Self ID for 12 year olds? Someone needs their hard drives checked I think.