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WouldBeGood · 14/06/2021 14:21

Can’t believe it’s needed….

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WouldBeGood · 14/06/2021 21:57

Maybe call her GP?

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ssd · 14/06/2021 21:58

She told me she didn't want to register as an unpaid carer as she doesn't feel like a carer as its her gran...but she checked the guidance and she fitted the bill so she went ahead...now people younger than her are getting jabbed and she feels stupid...

ssd · 14/06/2021 22:00

Drop ins only seem to do the over 40s or waiting for the second jab i think.
Dont even know if they are still running in Glasgow?

Gp worth a try

shouldistop · 14/06/2021 22:02

All of the unpaid carers I know have had 2nd jab now so there's definitely been a mistake with your relative.

ssd · 14/06/2021 22:05

Shes just a friend. I'd like to get more involved but I dont like asking her too much, i think shes just getting angry now.

latissimusdorsi · 14/06/2021 22:10

@ssd she could contact her msp. I know they were helping out with older people who'd been missed.
Or I remember on here couple of months ago there was poster who's Dad had been missed. He went along to vaccination centre and spoke to a manager. they couldn't fit him in that day but made him an appointment to come back.

SoMuchForSummerLove · 14/06/2021 22:13

Can she go to a walk in? Or are they for second jabs only?

SoMuchForSummerLove · 14/06/2021 22:14

Oh sorry - all the posts from the last ten minutes hadn't loaded!

ssd · 14/06/2021 22:14

I'll tell her, thank you

Lockdownbear · 15/06/2021 00:39

SSD someone mentioned to me they'd closed the unpaid carer route, which makes sense when you consider they are doing the 20 somethings.
I think if I was that person I'd phone again but ask for a supervisor or manager, keep going up the tree until someone can give her a date.

I don't know what I feel about the football being shown in schools. I have no trust that it wasn't politically motivated by SG, and I'd bet if it was a British team, or Andy Murray playing under a British flag it would never have been shown.

However I'll let it ride, if some kids are encouraged to play football then so be it.

Still totally pissed off about the fan zone vs kids sports days and nursery graduations.

Last year I bought into the idea it was safer to meet in a café (somewhere with a till) than to have someone in your house. Now I see it as pure money, it's all about the money. Trying to convince people to go out and spend money. The football / fan zone is all about the money.

While it didn't affect me October week was stay home unless you have a holiday booked. So the people who didn't have a holiday weren't allowed a daytime - what a lot of shite!

Groovee · 15/06/2021 06:27

We put the football on in nursery. Those who wanted to watch it did with oranges and milk. Those who didn't want to watch it went away and got busy elsewhere.

My ds is 18 and get his first dose on the 27th. I think your friend needs to try her MSP @ssd.

Last day at work for the week. I'm totally exhausted.

Lidlfix · 15/06/2021 08:13

Andy Murray playing was always shown in Stirling schools and the GB team brought the Davis cup around so my experience as a teacher and DDs as pupils would be very different to the view you present Lockdownbear. Also had live streaming guidelines issued for rugby matches and swimming when former pupils were taking part.

RedactedTaeFeck · 15/06/2021 08:34

DSs(20 and 19) and DS2 gf (19), all got their texts yesterday giving them appointments for this week while we are away. I think they've all managed to rearrange. That's one forth valley and 2 Aberdeen.

mibbelucieachwell · 15/06/2021 08:56

Youcannotbeserious I was thinking about the difference between Doris' and Nippy's coms last night. I can't stand either of them. IMO the difference in the ways they've handled the pandemic is negligible but I realised very belatedly for the first time last night that Doris and co are the only ones who refer to actual data in briefings. BlushUsually from Public Health England, who are widely praised by the scientists and amateur data modellers I follow on Twitter for the quality of their data.

Is there a Scottish equivalent? I think not?? Is this why Nippy doesn't show us actual figures? Or one of the reasons? Control freakery?

FWIW, until as recently as about a week ago, the scientists I follow on Twitter were mainly in agreement that the number of hospitalisations could go either way. Very lately they seem to be in agreement that a short delay is probably best. With the caveat that if a surge in cases is postponed too long into the autumn at the start of the winter illness season that would be worse for the health service.

But to my mind, a return to normal means, among other things, not having to self isolate if you're deemed to be a close contact of a case. And not having to test if you have slight symptoms that might be covid. If I'm right, there's been no mention of that? I'm not advocating that people wantonly spread covid around, but we don't have hugely disruptive, stressful rules about close contacts of other infectious viruses.

DS, (as previously mentioned) was extremely lucky, (like Michael Gove ) to be randomly selected for the daily testing to permit attendance at work/education and other 'essential' purposes, with the intention that the self isolation period can be reduced (if the data shows that the incubation period is usually shorter than 10 days). But even if they decide that quarantining for a shorter time is effective it's still hugely disruptive.

riverrunning · 15/06/2021 09:25

They've known for ages that if the isolation period was 5 days it'd half transmission.

SoMuchForSummerLove · 15/06/2021 09:36

Yeah I agree about isolating! My Mum is supposed to be going in for an operation, and was told her and my Dad would have to isolate for 14 days first. They're both double jabbed, surely even 7 days plus a couple of tests in that week would be more than enough Confused

ssd · 15/06/2021 09:40

The thing is, nurses who work on a ward with someone else working there who then tests positive, don't need to isolate. Its crazy. So people going into hospital need to isolate, but the nurses treating them could have been on a shift 3 days ago where people now have covid and they will be treating patients.

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 15/06/2021 09:40

"They've known for ages that if the isolation period was 5 days it'd half transmission."

We have a child isolating due to a burst bubble currently, and the letter we got recommended getting a test 3-5 days after exposure which kind of supports the idea that this is 'window' where most infections will come out if they are going to. If they shortened quarantine to a few days it would undoubtedly be better than now (and more people would follow it), but I agree that 'normal' means not having to quarantine because someone you've been near to tests positive but you yourself are fine (and, indeed, the positive 'case' may also be absolutely fine). I was trying to find out yesterday if the English 'end point' still includes quarantine in addition to the removal of distancing and group limits, but can't find anything that says either way.

SoMuchForSummerLove · 15/06/2021 09:43

@ssd

The thing is, nurses who work on a ward with someone else working there who then tests positive, don't need to isolate. Its crazy. So people going into hospital need to isolate, but the nurses treating them could have been on a shift 3 days ago where people now have covid and they will be treating patients.
Which totally supports the 'caught it IN hospital' as opposed to 'went INTO hospital with it' thing.

Infuriating.

ssd · 15/06/2021 09:45

Yep. I couldn't believe it when my nurse friend told me she had been working with 2 nurses who then tested positive, when she asked the ward sister or whatever its called now, if she should then isolate, she was told no, if you work in the nhs with someone with covid you dont isolate but if you are in a restaurant etc with someone who tests positive you do.

ssd · 15/06/2021 09:48

And they get moved around wards a lot or can be agency staff and go to different hospitals

shouldistop · 15/06/2021 09:52

Yep. I couldn't believe it when my nurse friend told me she had been working with 2 nurses who then tested positive, when she asked the ward sister or whatever its called now, if she should then isolate, she was told no, if you work in the nhs with someone with covid you dont isolate but if you are in a restaurant etc with someone who tests positive you do.

This is why it's rife in hospital. The people I know who have had covid caught it in hospital or a healthcare setting.
My friend went in for an op, she had isolated beforehand and had a negative LFT. Went home and her dad had to pop into help her after her ip as she was recovering. She started having symptoms 3 days after leaving hospital. Her dads symptoms started a few days after that. Sadly he died and her mum has been left with permanent lung damage. My poor friend is blaming herself as if he hadn't been helping her after her op then he would be alive today. But it was the hospital she caught it in.

rookiemere · 15/06/2021 09:53

Wow @ssd that's absolutely crazy, but ties in with what I'd heard first time round, but was hoping some lessons might have been learned from that.

I do agree that reducing isolation time and the option of daily testing instead - particularly for those who have been vaccinated - makes sense. The prospect of 5 or 7 days of self isolation is less daunting than 10 days with all the implications of that.

latissimusdorsi · 15/06/2021 09:58

Nurses are doing twice weekly Covid tests

RedactedTaeFeck · 15/06/2021 10:02

Ambulance service can be working all day in vehicle with same colleague and if they test positive they don't need to isolate either, reason being that they will have been wearing protective gear. Same positive person could have been working on many different vehicles with many staff.

It really is a farce.