A relationship between two 14 year olds.

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Posted this in teenagers but it sort of fits here too.

DS1 has been seeing the same girl since he was 12, he's now 14 and they are as inseperable now as they were at the beginning. They're together all the time. She spends ALOT of time here, her parents don't seem to give a toss what she does.

Anyway we were recently talking about booking our next holiday, Florida in a villa and DS suddenly said "oh, please mum...can we take (we'll call her Katie)"?

I said "don't be daft, I can't afford to pay for another one for a start and her parents are hardly going to let her jet off to America with people they don't know!" so he said "no, I mean if they pay, they'll let her, I know they will, please can I ask?" I honestly didn't think they'd agree so I said "ok, ask but don't hold your breath".

So he asked and they said yes he was so excited he actually started crying and she cried (they couldn't be more 'emo' if they tried!) and I just didn't have the heart to say no. They're both very good kids, quiet, hard working, never in trouble...is it really such a bad idea?

Only trouble is, the villa is only 3 bedroomed. Meaning they'd have to share a room. He parents when I spoke to them actually said they don't mind this as they're sensible in other words I think they were saying "as long as she doesn't come back pregnant we don't really care".

DH has suggested that we should let them share a room as they have earnt our trust so far but they're 14! they do act older but...please someone, someone inpartial talk some sense about this whole thing. I'm so confused about what to do for the best.

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Have you been reading Freud or something? Because that sounds like such a male oriented, out dated attitude to female sexuality.

OK Anna are you ready now

Do you feel that your home/work balance is sufficiently feng suied for you to relax enough vaginally?

she lives in paris oyu know.

oh we know, she's told us lots of times. Obviously being in France gives you a better sex life

BTW do you like my sponge painting effect? I did it myself

Naked natch

(Should I take her out to a Beefeater first for a Prawn Cocktail or garlic bread?)

LOLOLOL at the way this thread has developed

I laid my own tiles today

Shouldn't that be chicken in a basket MP

YUP, sex generally much, much, MUCH better with French men

hmm yes finger lickin' good

(Do they ever WASH those baskets?)

Is MrCheese Cod or is there another MNer with similar typing issues?

"And surely its better for your teen to have sex in their own bed than somewhere far less pleasant. Its easier to have safe planned sex in a bed, in a home where you don't have fear of being caught out and punished".

This is fatalistic and assumes that many teens who have partners will end up having sex anyway so we'll just give them the means to have safe sex. It still does not make it right though and apart from the emotional consequences and physical risk (for one cervical cancer risk is higher in girls who have had intercourse at an early age) there is still the thorny question of age of consent. Boys can get prosecuted for having sex with girls if they are underage; for example a 17 year old boy having sex with a 15 year old girl (even if she gave consent) is still breaking the law because she is not of age. That age of consent is there for a reason.

All the French Men I've met have been gay

Except for one who would go out late at night and hunt for deer with his air-rifle somewhere outside Swindon

However Anna, with my dado-rail and Wetherspoon's value meal (2 for £6.95!) I'm sure I can assist you in climbing the tree of lady love to the faraway fantasy land of vaginal ecstasy

you don't believe in vaginal orgasms???

Attila- If they want to have sex they are going to do it regardless, of their parents views, age of concent, law etc.

I'd rather talk to them about it and feel that i had given them the information and means for them to have a concenting (between one another) and safe relationship.

The whole point of talking is to bring up the emotional and physical sides of sex.

I wouldn't be like,

hey kids there's a bed some lube and a condom. You know what to do! I'll turn up the t.v so i can't hear you!

lolol

zippi says comlpetely unhelpfully

welll id did read the other parts and i wouldnt let them share or indeed taske her unless i had a daughter to make her share with and no way would i give up my sex life on holiday for twom kids to enjoy themselves

I don't think this is an existential issue, I believe they exist, I just don't believe that they represent a higher form of sexual experience which should be every woman's aim.

Sure I do Anna

I am going to give you FIVE right after I've gobbled Croque Monsieur from your six-packed estomac

Vaginal orgasms are completely, radically, wildly different to any other sort. Any other sort of orgasm is basically masturbation.

Vaginal orgasms from penetrative sex with a partner you love is what sex really is.

what if oyu hate him but he has a big todger