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Family expect me to move on after nephew's unforgivable behaviour

331 replies

letmebetheone · Yesterday 16:08

We have a big family split and I'm being made to feel responsible for upsetting everyone.

About 5 years ago my nephew did something to me which was unforgiveable. My sister and brother in law spoilt him from being small and he did not get disciplined at all which in turn made their lives hell when he reached his teens.

I had always been very close to him growing up but as he got older he really went off the rails. Sadly he was allowed to get away with any behaviour and when he did what he did to me I got no back up from sis and BIL .
I was so distressed that I wanted to report what he had done to the Police but I was stopped by sis as she wanted it sweeping under the carpet and was making excuses for his behaviour.

I asked for an apology from him but sis said 'You will be lucky, he apologises to no-one'.
He then called round at my house and I thought he was coming to apologise but instead when I opened the door he hurled a torrent of abuse at me and called me the most awful names.

I tackled my sis and BIL about it but instead of agreeing that he was out of order they made excuses for his behaviour.

Long story short, I just could not get past the way he was allowed to get away with what he had done especially as I agreed to not go to the Police and my sis and bil would not give me any back up. It was just 'The way he is' 'His age' etc etc.

So I fell out with sis and bil and refused to see nephew again.

But I am from a big family, 3 brothers and 4 sisters and it has had a knock on affect at every family occasion because I simply refuse to be in the same room as him. I really thought that as time went on he would mature, realise he should not have done what he did and perhaps eventually apologise.
However its now got to the stage where everyone is saying I should let it go as its making it difficult for everyone else.

Everyone else is fine with him and think I am over reacting but they were not there at the time. They all think I should get over it and as my youngest brother said 'Be the adult'. My nephew is now 23.

Im feeling like the bad guy and finding it difficult to cope with it. I admit I feel really bitter but on the one hand I hate it becoming a family divide but on the other I cant let it go.

OP posts:
Jorge14 · Today 18:06

Just protect your peace. You know what’s right and wrong. I think id cut them off if it was that serious.

godmum56 · Today 18:06

HumberSquid · Today 07:57

And who does this hurt? Not the nephew. Every year that the OP holds out for an apology is a year in which she misses out on her family and gets angrier and more resentful and isolated. If this wasn't a problem she wouldn't be posting.

Is she missing out?

ChocolateAddictAlways · Today 18:07

By refusing to take sides your family have taken his side OP

MustWeDoThis · Today 18:10

letmebetheone · Yesterday 18:43

I think I just wanted so sort of acceptance that Im not behaving irrationally. It seems the wider family just think of it as something that happened ages ago and its time I got over it instead of making others feel uncomfortable. I am disgusted at him for what he did but I also feel such anger toward my sis and bil for what I see as almost condoning the behaviour simply because they had always given in to him. Now its all 'How proud of our son we are' on photos. If anything Im more angry at them than him. The poster who said I should not go on Facebook is correct though.

He could have been trialled as an adult from the age of 16, depending on the crime. Otherwise, it's Juvenile Court and Detention.

OP, I really feel for you. There has been no justice for you, your family do not give a damn about you, yet they expect you to care about their opinions and follow their lead.

This will sound harsh, but you've been just as much as a pushover as the parents. You have all been complacent. Nobody has done the decent thing to challenge his behaviour and set him on the right path. Going to the police would have been the wake up call he needed, perhaps. It might have been the justice you deserve.

You can still go to the police - I feel that you should. Just say you were coerced and manipulated into not going, when it happened you were frightened. Look at all the women coming forward whom have been through historical abuse! It's always in the news; you can do it to. This family doesn't give a damn about you, so why are you letting them control you and speak to you like dirt? Go to the police and show them you will not be complicit in their behaviour.

desperatemum1234 · Today 18:14

If he has matured into a reasonable adult, he should know that what he did to you was wrong and he should apologise now. Shameful that he doesn’t.

Sharptonguedwoman · Today 18:15

OttersOnAPlane · Yesterday 18:22

No, I'm a radical feminist but I know that adolescent shit heads don't always become violent abusers. Lots of them turn their lives around, thank goodness for everyone around them.

If I was the OP I wouldn't want to be around my nephew either. But I'd not be casting aspersions that his girlfriend was in danger, like some PP.

The problem is, we'll never know. Has he managed to control his behaviour or is the anger still there under the 'nice' façade. I wouldn't trust this thug as far as I could throw him.

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What a vile post.

Hollybollyhughes · Today 18:26

Young men mature slowly and I think this might be a factor here. My nephew moved to live with us when he was 16 after my sister, his mother, whom we both miss and loved tremendously, passed away. Times were incredibly hard. We forgave unacceptable behaviour, lying and thieving for instance.
He's a lovely lad now, 10 years down the line. What hurts you most? His past behaviour or the acceptance of this.
Either way, it won't be easy but I'd try and appreciate he was an immature arse and maybe speak to him.
My nephew never apologised either but I.love him and we have a lovely relationship.

SuchiRolls · Today 18:26

Ignore the crackpot post. YANBU. And tbh if this were me and all of my family were telling me to drop it for their sakes…I’d cut them all out of my life. That’s not family, that’s a group of enablers that don’t care about you and what happened. They just want it to go away because it makes their lives uncomfortable. The parents have clearly had a huge part in the way he’s turned out and behaviours like that don’t just go away. So I’d sit back and watch from a distance because he’ll ruin that perfect relationship one way or another and you’ll have the satisfaction in knowing that those are the consequences of him never owning his behaviour and apologising and correcting it. I hope the girlfriend knows he has violent tendencies when challenged.

diddl · Today 18:26

So the family knew that he had been kicked out & you were the only one doing anything for him, were assaulted the one time you couldn't help & they think you are wrong?

What a bunch of shitheads.

OldScribbler · Today 18:28

Stand your ground, politely. Few things are worse or more ill-advised than letting people like that get away with it.

Onmytod24 · Today 18:36

The family acting like it’s all gone away and forgotten but I bet he hasn’t forgotten and not resolving this is not helping him. It’s actually creating a problem that is going to explode one day. if you all were different people you’d probably go and get some family therapy or maybe just the two of you it needs to be resolved.

Susan7654 · Today 18:37

Op when his parents punished him and you helped him out, did you ask his parents for permition?
And surely you knew he was problematic, why did you get involved in helping him?

PeppyRoseBeaker · Today 18:39

Pheraps if you give a inkling of what he did so wrong then you can get some better advice

Intervaldrinks · Today 18:40

It’s really hard to say without knowing what he actually did. How bad actually was it ? Is he a reformed character ?

RoseOliviaAu · Today 18:41

Just tell everyone you will move on when he apologises. Easy. The ball is in his court not yours.

RoseOliviaAu · Today 18:42

Intervaldrinks · Today 18:40

It’s really hard to say without knowing what he actually did. How bad actually was it ? Is he a reformed character ?

Edited

She has said why. He beat her up!

Lilolily · Today 18:46

Are we talking, slapped your hands away or punched you in the face?
either is bad but….

godmum56 · Today 18:47

Lilolily · Today 18:46

Are we talking, slapped your hands away or punched you in the face?
either is bad but….

read her posts, she has described it

Crudd99 · Today 18:48

Agree.

Naunet · Today 18:55

Susan7654 · Today 18:37

Op when his parents punished him and you helped him out, did you ask his parents for permition?
And surely you knew he was problematic, why did you get involved in helping him?

Victim blaming.

Barbarella73 · Today 18:55

letmebetheone · Yesterday 16:08

We have a big family split and I'm being made to feel responsible for upsetting everyone.

About 5 years ago my nephew did something to me which was unforgiveable. My sister and brother in law spoilt him from being small and he did not get disciplined at all which in turn made their lives hell when he reached his teens.

I had always been very close to him growing up but as he got older he really went off the rails. Sadly he was allowed to get away with any behaviour and when he did what he did to me I got no back up from sis and BIL .
I was so distressed that I wanted to report what he had done to the Police but I was stopped by sis as she wanted it sweeping under the carpet and was making excuses for his behaviour.

I asked for an apology from him but sis said 'You will be lucky, he apologises to no-one'.
He then called round at my house and I thought he was coming to apologise but instead when I opened the door he hurled a torrent of abuse at me and called me the most awful names.

I tackled my sis and BIL about it but instead of agreeing that he was out of order they made excuses for his behaviour.

Long story short, I just could not get past the way he was allowed to get away with what he had done especially as I agreed to not go to the Police and my sis and bil would not give me any back up. It was just 'The way he is' 'His age' etc etc.

So I fell out with sis and bil and refused to see nephew again.

But I am from a big family, 3 brothers and 4 sisters and it has had a knock on affect at every family occasion because I simply refuse to be in the same room as him. I really thought that as time went on he would mature, realise he should not have done what he did and perhaps eventually apologise.
However its now got to the stage where everyone is saying I should let it go as its making it difficult for everyone else.

Everyone else is fine with him and think I am over reacting but they were not there at the time. They all think I should get over it and as my youngest brother said 'Be the adult'. My nephew is now 23.

Im feeling like the bad guy and finding it difficult to cope with it. I admit I feel really bitter but on the one hand I hate it becoming a family divide but on the other I cant let it go.

Absolutely this - if he’s evolved and matured so much, he will surely be horrified by what he did back then. The fact that he isn’t mortified and hasn’t apologised says it all. And the rest of your family sound pathetic. It’s awful OP. Your nephew could have repaired this long ago if he’d sincerely apologised.

Tuesdayschild50 · Today 18:56

This isn't your responsibility to feel .. its very hard when families want to sweep behaviours under the carpet there is always that one strong person within a family who stands truly for what is right & wrong and I think thats you.
Maybe you could go to the parties but refuse to engage with your nephew .
Just because its family doesn't mean we have to like them .. there's many in my own family I cant stand and have nothing to do with.
Please you not everyone else stand tall x

Passingthrough123 · Today 18:56

It doesn't sound like an apology from the nephew would be enough regardless of how genuine or heartfelt it was. OP talks in such absolutes – "unforgivable behaviour" and "I feel really bitter" and "I don't want to see him at all" that I don't think she's able to move on now without some professional therapy.

He did an awful thing as a teen but is he not allowed to rehabilitate himself as a young man?