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He's definitely restarted the affair

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Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 03/05/2026 19:46

2 years ago my husband had an affair and we reconciled. All was going well. He left his job for a bit and then had to go back. In March he went on a trip where she was, first time since. He came back off. I suspected, he denied. Then he said he hasn't been happy, rhe effort of dealing with my triggers from the affair was too much. He was worn out. He was planning to stay until after my hysterectomy this week and then move out. Since then its been a roller coaster. Warm some days, cold the next. In amongst it i filed for divorce. Some days he wanted to try and some days he was like an imposter in my husbands body. Over and over I asked about her he said he wasn't talking to her.
Today I got forwarded messages between them from her husband. He's been at it again.
He says he wasn't cheating, he'd already decided it was over between us he wouldn't tell me so I'd let him look after me and rhe kids through my surgery.
So now I know. I already suspected it shouldn't be a shock. I'd already said ir was over but I suppose some part of me was hanging on.
No point to this really except maybe to warn others and to get a bit or a handhold as this feels bloody unbearable.

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Crikeyalmighty · 29/05/2026 13:43

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 29/05/2026 10:21

I'm so sorry hear this.
I hope that life worked out brilliantly for you?

Well I stayed married and we kind of got past it -im not unhappy per se but in all honesty though I’ve never 100% felt quite the same about him , always am a bit on alert - however it’s complicated and I’m not prepared to be in a totally shit position by blowing it up on my early 60s - come the lottery win/inheritance- I might!!

Thewookiemustgo · 29/05/2026 18:23

@Allthegoodonesareg0ne I cannot imagine your pain, reconciliation is a choice with risk involved, but false reconciliation should have its own independent circle of hell, betrayers already get one according to Dante, but repeat betrayers deserve their very own. I can’t tell you how sorry I am that he’s doing this.
As I think you know, I reconciled with my husband after his affair. The second chance was not lightly given and it would take only a whiff of anything at all and that would be that, no more chances, I wouldn’t even entertain discussing it, no point, he’s either changed like he promises he has or he hasn’t so game over.
It would, however, devastate me more than the original affair after everything we both went through.
All so can say is that I walked myself through this scenario when I decided to risk reconciliation and what stood out was that I had an overwhelming sense that in that event, my mindset would be that at least I would know I gave my marriage everything I could, that when “for better, for worse” became the very worst, I gave it my best shot.
That would be enough for me to face our young adult/ late teen kids and explain that I’d given their Dad and our family life everything I could, but that their Dad hadn’t and had blown the chance he’d been given by me, to deserve us.
It wouldn’t stop me being devastated and furious with him though for putting me through a second betrayal. But blame myself for risking a second chance? Never.
You did all you could, he’s playing a bizarre dance in the maelstrom of his own making. He can see the magnitude of what he’s done now and reality is sinking in, but his addiction to whatever the affair provides has convinced him he can’t do without it. One minute he’s sobbing with you and his pre affair feelings that he’s stuffed down resurface, then he’s panicking that in order to have this again, he’ll have to give up the affair completely and he doesn’t think he wants to.
I think this flip-flopping has probably been hidden under the surface for the whole of reconciliation, until he couldn’t stand it any more and had to choose and has now chosen badly.
The Affair Recovery website has stuff about this, the reality, I think, despite his moving out, is that he’s still being pulled in two directions. The reality of the finality of his choice is starting to bite.
It’s pretty irrelevant now, nobody would want him back after a double betrayal, his word is useless to you and to her.
I very much doubt she gets entertained with his tales of sobbing that his life is in ruins, that he still loves you and that you and the kids are the most important people to him. Only actions can prove that and his actions show you exactly where he is. Helping himself to another huge slice of cake despite starting to realise he’s eaten more than enough already. Affairs change perfectly sensible people into blind, deaf, nutcases.
Keep looking ahead, next time he literally gives you a sob-story tell him nothing he does matches his words so, just like him, they really don’t matter any more.

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 29/05/2026 19:31

The worst of it all is what he's doing to the kids.
We have two autistic children, one higher needs than the other. He's totally up ending their lives.
I was watching them play earlier thinking why would you prefer to sit alone in a rental, texting a girlfriend in another country, than stay here with them?
He'll see them every other weekend. He thinks he's still fulfilling his obligations because he'll pay the bills.
It disgusts me.

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Thewookiemustgo · 29/05/2026 19:55

This must be a nightmare for them, I know how difficult autistic children can find even the tiniest change to their routine and he knows this. It’s despicable and I agree, totally disgusting to attempt to ease his conscience by telling himself paying the bills is being a great dad. If only parenting was as simple as paying for stuff. Financially supporting your kids is a given. Thinking he deserves a medal or that that’s more than enough is just a crap attempt at swiping away much deserved guilt and shame.
His choices make no sense. He’s an idiot and a very disgusting one.

Strawberrina · 30/05/2026 02:05

Crikeyalmighty · 29/05/2026 13:43

Well I stayed married and we kind of got past it -im not unhappy per se but in all honesty though I’ve never 100% felt quite the same about him , always am a bit on alert - however it’s complicated and I’m not prepared to be in a totally shit position by blowing it up on my early 60s - come the lottery win/inheritance- I might!!

@Crikeyalmighty did the affair happen 20 years ago or was it recent?
Your post resonates with me as my H also had an affair and we reconciled.

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 30/05/2026 12:25

Well this morning he's cried with me over the end of our marriage.
He told me I'm the love of his life. He asked me if I can feel how much he loves me. He said he made such a mess of the last two years, that he just reached his limit on facing what he's done.
I told him honestly I know he loves me, but rhe fact that he can and is still doing things that deeply hurt me anyway is something he has to figure out alone.
He's not trying to reconcile (I don't think) neither do I want to.
What a mess he's made.

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Thewookiemustgo · 30/05/2026 12:35

So sorry @Allthegoodonesareg0ne . If he means it it’s heartbreaking because he’s totally fucked it all up and only now realises it,
If he means it, however , he’ll stop what he’s doing and sort his shit out.
All too late now, sadly.
Affairs are so destructive and so many come to nothing and are ultimately all for nothing.
He was done facing the shame and magnitude of his wrongdoing and the hurt he inflicted on you and his family and now you are done dealing with it.
More fool him.

Crikeyalmighty · 30/05/2026 15:43

Strawberrina · 30/05/2026 02:05

@Crikeyalmighty did the affair happen 20 years ago or was it recent?
Your post resonates with me as my H also had an affair and we reconciled.

Happened 20 years ago but only found out 9 years ago - he had written a load of songs and poems about it and also recorded himself onto CD singing and playing them and stuffed them all in a drawer and in his office files - I found out when I was looking for something as we have a business together and he was away with work . I was suspicious at the time it was happening due to the amount of texts on his phone bill ( someone very young (20) who did bits of work with us - he is adamant it was just a huge crush and was all in his head -but I have no proof either way

Crikeyalmighty · 30/05/2026 16:06

@Thewookiemustgo totally agree - there would be no second chances here with me either - I would just have to grit my teeth for a bit of being poor- mainly because my trust which now runs on around 80% would be down to nil . Doesn’t mean I hate him, or don’t care, I just wouldn’t want to be with someone who clearly wasn’t putting me first after they had been given a second chance

Applecup · 30/05/2026 22:18

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 30/05/2026 12:25

Well this morning he's cried with me over the end of our marriage.
He told me I'm the love of his life. He asked me if I can feel how much he loves me. He said he made such a mess of the last two years, that he just reached his limit on facing what he's done.
I told him honestly I know he loves me, but rhe fact that he can and is still doing things that deeply hurt me anyway is something he has to figure out alone.
He's not trying to reconcile (I don't think) neither do I want to.
What a mess he's made.

So self-indulgent. Making it all about him and ignoring the hurt he’s caused you.

corblimeygvnr · 30/05/2026 23:23

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 30/05/2026 12:25

Well this morning he's cried with me over the end of our marriage.
He told me I'm the love of his life. He asked me if I can feel how much he loves me. He said he made such a mess of the last two years, that he just reached his limit on facing what he's done.
I told him honestly I know he loves me, but rhe fact that he can and is still doing things that deeply hurt me anyway is something he has to figure out alone.
He's not trying to reconcile (I don't think) neither do I want to.
What a mess he's made.

What a load of codswallop from him 🙄

Bluebellfairy44 · 30/05/2026 23:26

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 30/05/2026 12:25

Well this morning he's cried with me over the end of our marriage.
He told me I'm the love of his life. He asked me if I can feel how much he loves me. He said he made such a mess of the last two years, that he just reached his limit on facing what he's done.
I told him honestly I know he loves me, but rhe fact that he can and is still doing things that deeply hurt me anyway is something he has to figure out alone.
He's not trying to reconcile (I don't think) neither do I want to.
What a mess he's made.

Am going through exactly the same here. We have to keep strong because its bullshit. They know exactly what they have done xxx I have an autistic son aswell x

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 05:38

Bluebellfairy44 · 30/05/2026 23:26

Am going through exactly the same here. We have to keep strong because its bullshit. They know exactly what they have done xxx I have an autistic son aswell x

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I'm so sorry to hear that.
One thing I've recognised through this whole ordeal is just how self centred he is.
It's all his life is falling apart, he couldn't handle the recovery from the first affair, he feels terrible, blah blah
It'd funny if it wasn't my life!

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Strawberrina · 31/05/2026 05:46

Crikeyalmighty · 30/05/2026 15:43

Happened 20 years ago but only found out 9 years ago - he had written a load of songs and poems about it and also recorded himself onto CD singing and playing them and stuffed them all in a drawer and in his office files - I found out when I was looking for something as we have a business together and he was away with work . I was suspicious at the time it was happening due to the amount of texts on his phone bill ( someone very young (20) who did bits of work with us - he is adamant it was just a huge crush and was all in his head -but I have no proof either way

I see... thanks for sharing. Was your H remorseful when you found out? What steps did he take to fix the marriage?

OchreRaven · 31/05/2026 07:57

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 05:38

I'm so sorry to hear that.
One thing I've recognised through this whole ordeal is just how self centred he is.
It's all his life is falling apart, he couldn't handle the recovery from the first affair, he feels terrible, blah blah
It'd funny if it wasn't my life!

You are going through horrendous pain. It is totally understandable that you want to talk to him about it and feel a connection, as he’s been your ‘person’ for years.

But I think in doing so you are giving him too much emotional energy. As you have said, he is selfish. And all he is doing by confessing his love for you, and making himself out to be the hapless idiot who is too weak to make it right, is to create a narrative that he didn’t want this, he couldn’t help it, everyone should feel sorry for him and not hold him accountable.

I don’t think that narrative is going to help you move on. You need emotional (and physical) space from him. Whilst the physical space is hopefully coming soon I think it’s time to shut down your emotions around him and grey rock. He doesn’t get to be part of your healing journey when he refuses to stop the things that cause you pain.

Bluebellfairy44 · 31/05/2026 08:01

OchreRaven · 31/05/2026 07:57

You are going through horrendous pain. It is totally understandable that you want to talk to him about it and feel a connection, as he’s been your ‘person’ for years.

But I think in doing so you are giving him too much emotional energy. As you have said, he is selfish. And all he is doing by confessing his love for you, and making himself out to be the hapless idiot who is too weak to make it right, is to create a narrative that he didn’t want this, he couldn’t help it, everyone should feel sorry for him and not hold him accountable.

I don’t think that narrative is going to help you move on. You need emotional (and physical) space from him. Whilst the physical space is hopefully coming soon I think it’s time to shut down your emotions around him and grey rock. He doesn’t get to be part of your healing journey when he refuses to stop the things that cause you pain.

Gosh this is so apt xx keep strong Op 🫂🫂🫂

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 08:24

OchreRaven · 31/05/2026 07:57

You are going through horrendous pain. It is totally understandable that you want to talk to him about it and feel a connection, as he’s been your ‘person’ for years.

But I think in doing so you are giving him too much emotional energy. As you have said, he is selfish. And all he is doing by confessing his love for you, and making himself out to be the hapless idiot who is too weak to make it right, is to create a narrative that he didn’t want this, he couldn’t help it, everyone should feel sorry for him and not hold him accountable.

I don’t think that narrative is going to help you move on. You need emotional (and physical) space from him. Whilst the physical space is hopefully coming soon I think it’s time to shut down your emotions around him and grey rock. He doesn’t get to be part of your healing journey when he refuses to stop the things that cause you pain.

Great advice thank you.
Whenever he catches me crying he comes straight to give me a cuddle. Sometimes he cries too. He says I'm the love of his life, I'm beautiful, he'll never be able to replace me etc etc. When I thank him for the work he's putting in to take care of everything while I'm recovering from surgery he says 'it's my job'
Yet he is still in the affair, not trying to reconcile (I don't want to) and preparing to move out this month.
I don't have words to describe what if does to me!
I am learning to keep my emotions to myself as much as possible while we are literally stuck in the house together 24/7.
It doesn't serve me to share any of them with him.
It will be easier once we get through him moving out.

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Hollycoco · 31/05/2026 08:43

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 08:24

Great advice thank you.
Whenever he catches me crying he comes straight to give me a cuddle. Sometimes he cries too. He says I'm the love of his life, I'm beautiful, he'll never be able to replace me etc etc. When I thank him for the work he's putting in to take care of everything while I'm recovering from surgery he says 'it's my job'
Yet he is still in the affair, not trying to reconcile (I don't want to) and preparing to move out this month.
I don't have words to describe what if does to me!
I am learning to keep my emotions to myself as much as possible while we are literally stuck in the house together 24/7.
It doesn't serve me to share any of them with him.
It will be easier once we get through him moving out.

I think it might be best to start refusing any comfort from him. It’s a total headfuck and he is messing with your emotions only to make himself feel better and to be the “good guy”. Again selfish behaviour only to benefit himself.

If he finds you upset and attempts to hug or offer emotional support, I would politely decline. Tell him that you would rather deal with your emotions personally. You don’t think it’s helpful to be comforted by the very person who is causing the upset!

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 08:55

Hollycoco · 31/05/2026 08:43

I think it might be best to start refusing any comfort from him. It’s a total headfuck and he is messing with your emotions only to make himself feel better and to be the “good guy”. Again selfish behaviour only to benefit himself.

If he finds you upset and attempts to hug or offer emotional support, I would politely decline. Tell him that you would rather deal with your emotions personally. You don’t think it’s helpful to be comforted by the very person who is causing the upset!

Yes you are right thank you.
This morning he's been crying saying he loves me but he doesn't trust himself anymore and will only hurt me
I just ok.

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OchreRaven · 31/05/2026 09:06

Sometimes saying things out loud and repeating them, even when you don’t feel them to be true in the moment, can help them become your reality.

So when he is next in one of his ‘poor me, I’m so weak and you deserve more’ speeches you should agree with him and say ‘You are a weak man, I don’t need your support, you are the person who hurt me. I know I deserve more but I am processing my feelings and I’m ok with that. I will come out of this stronger. You need to put your support towards yourself to work out why you have done the things you have and what that says about you as a person. I will be fine. I am strong and have integrity. My kids know how much I love them and that i will always put them first. I don’t need your validation on what a wonderful person I am. I know I am a good person and your actions aren’t a reflection on me.’

goodThingGonewrong · 31/05/2026 09:07

My god he’s such a selfish and thoughtless prick. It’s really emotionally damaging for you. His love for you sounds like it’s a not romantic love so it’s not really want you want. To parent a an over grown man baby.
he is crying as he wanted the best of both worlds, cosy lovely family and the ow to shag part time. Don’t indulge in these crying sessions with him. Cry in your room, out of sight, don’t be emotionally vulnerable with him.

MissMoneyFairy · 31/05/2026 09:09

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 08:55

Yes you are right thank you.
This morning he's been crying saying he loves me but he doesn't trust himself anymore and will only hurt me
I just ok.

Doesn't trust himself, that old chestnut, heard it all beforel

Allthegoodonesareg0ne · 31/05/2026 09:13

MissMoneyFairy · 31/05/2026 09:09

Doesn't trust himself, that old chestnut, heard it all beforel

Yup! Straight from the script.

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OchreRaven · 31/05/2026 09:36

Just remember if you are ever questioning whether what he is telling you is actually his truth, would he be saying the same to the OW?

Based on the fact she thinks they are in love and starting a future together there is no way that he’s told her that he will always love you and he’s messed up his life by having an affair with her. No doubt he tells her you are devastated and he feels awful that falling for her has hurt his family so much but he just couldn’t help himself. His love for this OW was just too strong 🤢

So when he comes out with this shit recognise it as the manipulation it is. To both of you. Likely the real truth is somewhere in the middle but he says what he needs to in the moment to get the reaction he wants.

onwardsUpwardsTopwards · 31/05/2026 10:04

I wouldn't believe crocodile's tears. But it's so difficult when we are in it ourselves. What I learnt was that cheaters are always liars and they don't feel bad about lying. Only their actions matters, not words.

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