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Found condoms and wet wipes in DH's work/ travel bag (yes another one of these!)

307 replies

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 06:17

I've read many similar threads on here, maybe adding another will help develop a data pool for trend analysis or FAQs for other Mumsnetters (ha!) but really, I just need to recount my experience and maybe get some advice specific to my circumstances - even though it's on a common topic.

Several condoms dated 2029, together with individually wrapped wet wipes multi pack - many of which are open - found in DH travel/ work backpack. No open or used condoms, just the wipes. Been in couples' therapy for 2 years, been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating. I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace. I was looking for pens or pencils for DS1 (6) homework last night (just moved house - no idea where the pens are yet) not looking for trouble. So I behaved calmly (I'm generally very expressive and emotional)and took out a sample of both on the floor by his bed, where I thought it would be obvious to him I had found them. I know he found them as I was flossing with my back turned as I hear me swearing and him jumping up to move them (DS1 and DS2 (3) were in their beds). The paraphernalia wasn't there when I turned and there has been no mention of it (not how I expected it to play out but determined not to be super emotional, which is what he would expect, and use to deflect from the problem at hand)

A few other things have my Spidey senses going. DH has been hugely and noticeably protective of his phone recently. He's always on it, won't show me me anything on his screen if he is looking at something and commenting on it, would rather send it to me (although he always would turn the screen to show me in the past). It never leaves his sight, it was on a charger close to me one night, next to the night stand with my water on it, I reached to get my water and he was barely awake and managed to sense, wake up and grab the phone as I reached my glass. He was never a fan of handing over his phone to DS to watch something as a distraction if we'd gotten desperate for him to sit still ( I am always happy to, unless I'm out of charge). Now, it is the only scenario where he would sooner make a scene (usually hates this) than hand it over.

He works in the office more, and goes for more conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight) social meals and drinks after work. I thought it was due to his new job, and my job is the same. The odder thing is how many short notice travel ones he now has, they weren't mentioned to me as an initial criterion for the role.

He's been very amenable to sleeping in the guest bedroom in the last few months too. DCs have been waking up a lot at night and coming into our bed. In fact he's most recently been insisting that they start the night in bed with me while he sleeps in the guest room, citing 'we would all get better sleep'. Which we actually have.

I should ask him outright, about the condoms. Maybe tonight after the kids are down (we may not get a chance in the morning, getting kids ready, and DH is working from the office all day). But he may have gotten rid of the evidence, and he has been known to lie and gaslight in the past to get out of things.

What would you think and do? If he has been cheating, the marriage becomes irreparable, in my view - couples' therapy be damned.

OP posts:
ldnmusic87 · 21/01/2026 10:29

What does your gut say? did he seem guilty?

KoalaKoKo · 21/01/2026 10:31

Calliopespa · 21/01/2026 10:23

been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating.

No one "deserves" to be cheated on.

100% agree - you know it also takes 3 years for your hormones to recover after child birth and depending on your age perimenopause can hit you too. Also if a guy isn’t pulling his weight, for example getting you to sleep with the kids every night, it can be a massive turn off!

Women’s desire tends to be more linked to emotions while a lot of men can still desire someone they despise- so if a guy does something inconsiderate or gaslights you your desire for them drops! There was an article recently saying that men who do a more equitable share of housework in a marriage have sex more frequently which I can well believe! Your lack of desire for your partner maybe because he is not acting in a way that makes him desirable!

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 21/01/2026 10:31

OP he is clearly having an affair. I would have to end it for the lies and gaslighting and treating you like an idiot as much as the cheating.

Januaryfalls · 21/01/2026 10:33

Evidence does not lie.

We aren’t happy. We aren’t intimate. Evidence says you are cheating. I want a divorce. It’s hard but it’s also easy.

let’s do this amicably and cut the charade. No one is happy.

I remember one highly intelligent friend catching her husband with a dating app, his excuse we might split up and I was looking in advance at what profile I might need.
condoms when she was on the pill, we might need to if you are on antibiotics etc
refusal to pass his phone over - he said we need to build trust
then he was seen out with female friend - but hadn’t said he was going with a female friend his excuse ‘I thought you would get mad’ blamed her, she would not bail on the marriage. Even when he had a hotel work stay and condoms (that they didn’t need) was down by 2. He claimed she had counted incorrectly (they didn’t need condoms she was on the pill). Then he was caught staying overnight at female friends house despite saying he stayed elsewhere. She drove to the female friend’s house etc and he was there. He stayed overnight / she confronted him. She confronted her / both denied. We are just friends and I thought you would do this etc

On and on it went. A year passed and then another 6 months later OW (the friend) was 8 months pregnant and he left her (wife). Honestly why do women do this / this is enough / condoms and refusing to hand phone over. Just rip the band aid off.

FourAndFive · 21/01/2026 10:34

I hate him on your behalf, OP. Listen to your gut, please.

Nearly50omg · 21/01/2026 10:39

Just say to him how long have you been having an affair? And look at him
and wait until he replies. If it’s a lie/a what are you talking about just keep repeating “how long have you been having an affair?!”

CharlotteLightandDark · 21/01/2026 10:42

If you’ve been in couples therapy for 2 YEARS and never have sex then the marriage is dead on its arse anyway.

Tinybiker · 21/01/2026 10:42

You said he is off to work, does he work with female colleagues, has anyone new started? Could he be having a workplace affair? That would tie in with long work conferences (made up) for an excuse to spend time with someone else after work or overnight stays. You have been loyal but it seems he is playing away.

Lacee222 · 21/01/2026 10:48

Im glad you confronted him as this vant of been easy for you,if he loved you he would of reassured you by showing you his phone,this man clearly does not care about your feelings,it sounds to me this man shuts you down on most things,its mental abuse and what reasons does he have for sleeping in the spare room?I'd take the lead in your marriage tell him its over,no ifs buts or whys,it sounds to me youve got very very low self esteem about yourself clearly done by your husband.Please start putting yourself first i no easier said than done,he will shit himself that your being strong as hard as it is for you remember your worth pet.Dont let this man destroy you any more take time to heal you deserve better than this.take care really do hope you can find happiness within yourself because you so desrve it x

katepilar · 21/01/2026 10:48

SpinandSing · 21/01/2026 10:02

What are the issues that you're having couples therapy for? I can't quite understand how people think they have a relationship when it is sexless - unless there is a medical or trauma related reason for that.

People can have relationships without /lots of/ sex.

anothergymmembership · 21/01/2026 10:53

katepilar · 21/01/2026 10:48

People can have relationships without /lots of/ sex.

Yes, as others have said, if both partners are on the same page.

Duveet · 21/01/2026 10:53

Your marriage is over and he is just another cheating arsehole.
Pity you didn't take a photo of what you found.
Get yourself tested and get legal advice.
Accept it is over and get your head in a place where you are making plans for the future.

Clearly he has been using work as a cover.
When you are ready and in an organised place and he is lying, tell him you have a long list of all his work conferences and trips and will be asking his HR department to confirm it.

That usually stops the lying.
My friends niece contacted her husbands boss about same when he was constantly travelling and she was left with a sick toddler whilst working full-time too. She was suspicious.

His boss was seriously unimpressed with him, particularly as it was a colleague he was cheating with.
It is a Civil Service job he has been really embarrassed by this.
He was far more upset by this than his wife ending the marriage.
She has zero regrets.

Egglio · 21/01/2026 10:53

katepilar · 21/01/2026 10:48

People can have relationships without /lots of/ sex.

They can also have lots of sex and no actual relationship to speak of.

It's by the by. No one is happy in the situation OP describes. Two years of couples therapy is just treading water/delaying the envitable/torturous.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 21/01/2026 10:55

Hi OP

I wouldn't have talked to him, it sounds like lying and gaslighting is his style so wouldn't be telling you anything. Now he knows you're on to him he will just be more careful. Has probably wiped his phone by now. Asking him to reflect is pointless as he has already compartmentalised and justified his behaviour in his head.

I predict he will delete all evidence off his phone then offer you to have a look, so might be worth reading up / asking on here how to find things that aren't immediately obvious (eg frequent contacts in apps) or how to restore deleted or archived mesaages etc

I'd keep quiet for now, start gathering info and getting advice in case you split. I'd also look out for any opportunity to have a look at his phone (middle of the night? After he has had a few drinks?) and (mumsnet won't agree with this) chuck a tile or something in his car to see if he is where he says he is going to be (though this won't show if its someone at work).

Why do you think he has stayed in the marriage given the level of issues that it has? Why have you? What has stopped these issues being resolved in therapy?

DaisyChain505 · 21/01/2026 10:55

It sounds like you’re beating a dead horse trying to save this marriage. Just know that you’ve tried, see it for what it is and call it a day.

teaandtoastwouldbenice · 21/01/2026 10:56

I’m not sure what more evidence you need? It could also be he using sex workers and so denying an affair wouldn’t be a lie.

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 10:58

Oopsylazy · 21/01/2026 09:54

I’d say it’s pretty obvious he’s cheating.

Just know that you probably wont’t get an admission of it as they rarely want to be the bad guy so will deny, deny, deny.

You could try demanding he hand his phone over - if he point blank refuses you have your answer really.

It sounds like you’re not that bothered anyway though!

He did point blank refuse his phone.

It's not that I'm not bothered, although I can see why it seems that way. I'm switching between numbness and exhaustion and just shaky at the moment. We've been in a bad place for a while now, and recently I just had a feeling that something was going on so maybe that's part of it. Also, I guess I've just been waiting for evidence I couldn't talk myself out of and I think this is it, so there is definitely an element of relief.

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BunnyLake · 21/01/2026 11:00

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 21/01/2026 09:38

100% having an affair. Just tell him you know and watch him squirm.

He might not squirm if their marriage has been pretty dead for the last few years.

It sounds to me that the marriage is in its last death throes. Time to either have a very serious talk to see if there is anything to salvage or get a divorce.

GotTheBluePeterBadge · 21/01/2026 11:03

Your gut is right.

anothergymmembership · 21/01/2026 11:06

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 10:58

He did point blank refuse his phone.

It's not that I'm not bothered, although I can see why it seems that way. I'm switching between numbness and exhaustion and just shaky at the moment. We've been in a bad place for a while now, and recently I just had a feeling that something was going on so maybe that's part of it. Also, I guess I've just been waiting for evidence I couldn't talk myself out of and I think this is it, so there is definitely an element of relief.

As others have said, he'll spend today panicking and deleting everything / blocking anyone who shouldn't be contacting him so I wouldn't even bother asking to look at his phone again.

BarbieShrimp · 21/01/2026 11:06

Duveet · 21/01/2026 10:53

Your marriage is over and he is just another cheating arsehole.
Pity you didn't take a photo of what you found.
Get yourself tested and get legal advice.
Accept it is over and get your head in a place where you are making plans for the future.

Clearly he has been using work as a cover.
When you are ready and in an organised place and he is lying, tell him you have a long list of all his work conferences and trips and will be asking his HR department to confirm it.

That usually stops the lying.
My friends niece contacted her husbands boss about same when he was constantly travelling and she was left with a sick toddler whilst working full-time too. She was suspicious.

His boss was seriously unimpressed with him, particularly as it was a colleague he was cheating with.
It is a Civil Service job he has been really embarrassed by this.
He was far more upset by this than his wife ending the marriage.
She has zero regrets.

The vast majority of workplaces would NEVER release that kind of information to a non-employee calling for intel on their partner. It won't work as a threat, because he'll know this. Those that do are rare and grossly irresponsible.

Workplaces are not in the business of providing internal information to members of the public so they can catch their partners cheating. If they were, it would be easy for abusers to track their partner's movements with a quick call to their partner's boss.

You don't need to play detective. The only "proof" you need is knowing you're not happy in this relationship.

QuickPeachPoet · 21/01/2026 11:08

I am so sorry OP.
He is cheating.
Get your ducks in a row. The details will come out in the dirty laundry later.
I hope your employment and RL support are watertight.

365RubyRed · 21/01/2026 11:09

Time to start planning your exit from this marriage. Tell him it's time for a divorce. Living so unhappily together isn't good for either of you. Let him go to his OW with your blessing, and then see a solicitor.

anothergymmembership · 21/01/2026 11:09

BarbieShrimp · 21/01/2026 11:06

The vast majority of workplaces would NEVER release that kind of information to a non-employee calling for intel on their partner. It won't work as a threat, because he'll know this. Those that do are rare and grossly irresponsible.

Workplaces are not in the business of providing internal information to members of the public so they can catch their partners cheating. If they were, it would be easy for abusers to track their partner's movements with a quick call to their partner's boss.

You don't need to play detective. The only "proof" you need is knowing you're not happy in this relationship.

I was just going to say this!! You can't just ring up a place of work and demand to see when someone has been there and the hours they've worked in a month😂

Shedeboodinia · 21/01/2026 11:09

I think it's over.
Yoh had sex twice in three years. You can't ask him about the condoms openly. You have been in couples therapy but nothing has changed.
It's time to admit there's no future for you as a couple and make some solid plans to leave.
It takes bravery but why waste time on this. You are both dragging it out and clearly unhappy if you need therapy.

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