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Found condoms and wet wipes in DH's work/ travel bag (yes another one of these!)

307 replies

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 06:17

I've read many similar threads on here, maybe adding another will help develop a data pool for trend analysis or FAQs for other Mumsnetters (ha!) but really, I just need to recount my experience and maybe get some advice specific to my circumstances - even though it's on a common topic.

Several condoms dated 2029, together with individually wrapped wet wipes multi pack - many of which are open - found in DH travel/ work backpack. No open or used condoms, just the wipes. Been in couples' therapy for 2 years, been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating. I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace. I was looking for pens or pencils for DS1 (6) homework last night (just moved house - no idea where the pens are yet) not looking for trouble. So I behaved calmly (I'm generally very expressive and emotional)and took out a sample of both on the floor by his bed, where I thought it would be obvious to him I had found them. I know he found them as I was flossing with my back turned as I hear me swearing and him jumping up to move them (DS1 and DS2 (3) were in their beds). The paraphernalia wasn't there when I turned and there has been no mention of it (not how I expected it to play out but determined not to be super emotional, which is what he would expect, and use to deflect from the problem at hand)

A few other things have my Spidey senses going. DH has been hugely and noticeably protective of his phone recently. He's always on it, won't show me me anything on his screen if he is looking at something and commenting on it, would rather send it to me (although he always would turn the screen to show me in the past). It never leaves his sight, it was on a charger close to me one night, next to the night stand with my water on it, I reached to get my water and he was barely awake and managed to sense, wake up and grab the phone as I reached my glass. He was never a fan of handing over his phone to DS to watch something as a distraction if we'd gotten desperate for him to sit still ( I am always happy to, unless I'm out of charge). Now, it is the only scenario where he would sooner make a scene (usually hates this) than hand it over.

He works in the office more, and goes for more conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight) social meals and drinks after work. I thought it was due to his new job, and my job is the same. The odder thing is how many short notice travel ones he now has, they weren't mentioned to me as an initial criterion for the role.

He's been very amenable to sleeping in the guest bedroom in the last few months too. DCs have been waking up a lot at night and coming into our bed. In fact he's most recently been insisting that they start the night in bed with me while he sleeps in the guest room, citing 'we would all get better sleep'. Which we actually have.

I should ask him outright, about the condoms. Maybe tonight after the kids are down (we may not get a chance in the morning, getting kids ready, and DH is working from the office all day). But he may have gotten rid of the evidence, and he has been known to lie and gaslight in the past to get out of things.

What would you think and do? If he has been cheating, the marriage becomes irreparable, in my view - couples' therapy be damned.

OP posts:
FairyMaclary · 21/01/2026 11:10

Another 10 a penny cheating middle aged man.

Be aware he may delete his messages and come home and say you can check his phone. If he is inept his messages will be in deleted or sent (email). Or in deleted photos.

You can look for apps and see if they have previously been installed.

However you cannot make anyone cheat. Sadly op you are not that powerful. Examine why you choose not to cheat. It’s not due to your husband.

I don’t cheat for me. I said vows and I meant them. I said them in front of my friends and family. My word matters to me. I have to look at myself every day and like who I see. So I don’t cheat for me. Because my words and promises matter to me. My husband is my collateral damage.

Your husband had options

  1. divorce
  2. put up and shut up
  3. try counselling and if it does work resort to option 1 or 2.

Cheat and become a liar was the choice he made. It’s not a great choice and doesn’t show him in good light.

He knows it is wrong - hence he won’t admit it. He wants to be the hero of his tale. So wait for the cheater lies to kick in and expect a rollercoaster.

Cheating in a nutshell by Mitchell is a good book.
How to help my spouse heal from my affair is another (even if you split).

Good luck op but you need to understand you are not powerful enough to make someone cheat. Your values are your values. Either you are okay with lying and cheating or you are not. You husband has a but in his fidelity. I am faithful but not if she won’t find out. I am faithful but we aren’t having sex so that’s okay.

If you are struggling (and it will likely hit you at some point) write down your values and live by them each day. It will give you clarity and something to guide you during this storm.

MumTeapot5 · 21/01/2026 11:11

I’m so sorry OP but reading through this and seeing he refused to let you look on his phone just for peace of mind plus all the other things you found it does look like he’s cheating. I’ve always been a firm believer in trusting your gut instincts x

lifeonmars100 · 21/01/2026 11:14

He is cheating, he denied it just to buy himself some time and if he is cheating with just one person I am guessing he will now be in contact with them to work out what they do now. Then he will flip it all round on you and make out that you "drove him" to it. Been there, lived through it, survived and then thrived. You will to. Good luck

katepilar · 21/01/2026 11:14

anothergymmembership · 21/01/2026 10:53

Yes, as others have said, if both partners are on the same page.

That goes without saying.

anothergymmembership · 21/01/2026 11:15

lifeonmars100 · 21/01/2026 11:14

He is cheating, he denied it just to buy himself some time and if he is cheating with just one person I am guessing he will now be in contact with them to work out what they do now. Then he will flip it all round on you and make out that you "drove him" to it. Been there, lived through it, survived and then thrived. You will to. Good luck

Also very likely he will start to play the mental health / depression card and say he needs "time alone" whilst he has therapy sessions 🙄

RottenBanana · 21/01/2026 11:15

MN love to quote the Script, I have done so myself. In this case though, there is no blindsiding, no rewriting of history. Two years of counselling and no tangible progress says the life support machine has been on for long enough already regardless of anything else.

No one deserves to be cheated on. In this case though, it sounds as if the affair is a symptom of an already dead marriage rather than a direct cause.
People don't leave, even unhappy marriages, until they think they have somewhere to go that they will be happier. Whether that is to be alone, or to be with another person. There are benefits to sticking with their family and putting up with general unhappiness, hoping for improvement, if you are one of the ones who doesn't want to be alone.

This man has now so obviously met someone else and is well over halfway out the door. Today will involve him having panicked crisis talks with whoever she is, them deciding if they are going to move to the next stage. This evening, he will either be begging forgiveness because she won't do it, or grabbing some stuff and running off to his 'better option'. Either way, he will have deleted anything obviously incriminating very quickly.

If in your mind you are done, spend the day getting together all the crucial paperwork so you are ready to tell him this, regardless of which version he comes home with.

Whatado · 21/01/2026 11:24

I understand your mind trying to pretend you dont know, what actually you do because you are scared of what comes next.

But its here now. Your relationship hasn't been good for awhile. He has been pulling further away under the idea of support for all you to get sleep using your kids to manipulate you. He is 100% cheating.

Personally if you find it difficult to talk I would send him a message. Outline everything you have put together and tell him you know he is cheating. Tell him his denial wont change the fact you know. That you arent an idiot and you know he stood and lied to your face. You dont believe in all of his work trips and last minute plans.

So now its about moving forward with as little damage as possible. Get in contact with a solicitor.

Its not clear from your posts if you actually wanted to stay married or you were just hoping to hold on longer while the kids were small.

There really is no going back now, the scales have tipped so you both have to figure out how to end what ever your marriage has been for the last few years.

Anyonecansee · 21/01/2026 11:27

Redcandlescandal · 21/01/2026 08:37

Just get legal advice and divorce him. You should probably get an STD check at some point just in case…

Yup. This. He's cheated, get checked for diseases, divorce him.

Egglio · 21/01/2026 11:29

Anyonecansee · 21/01/2026 11:27

Yup. This. He's cheated, get checked for diseases, divorce him.

Why is everyone suggesting an STD check when OP clearly says they haven't had sex?

mycosyredwooltoque · 21/01/2026 11:31

I'm very late joining the thread and everything that can be said has likely already been said regarding this awful situation.
After reading the OP's post, I have to say two things: I'm really very sorry that the OP has discovered in the most graphic way, that her DH has been unfaithful to her and their marriage.
The other thing is that why on earth did you not take a quick pic of the evidence?
After the initial shock of finding the condoms and wipes, that's the first thing I would think of doing.
I probably would have taken one of each wipe and condom as well; sounds like they were a few of them there.
Pointless using the excuse that he gaslights you about things if you haven't got evidence, which hopefully you would have sent to yourself in an email, in case DH tampers with your phone.
Best of luck with whatever your next steps are OP.

Nevermind17 · 21/01/2026 11:34

My exH was having an affair for years. I found lots of things that pointed to it (viagra in his wash bag, hotel bookings etc), but nothing that he couldn’t always talk his way out of. I found something one day and confronted him, and again he denied/gaslighted. I remember saying to him just as he was leaving to go to the gym “While you’re there I’d like you to have a think about how you’re going to tell me, and when you get back we’re going to sit down and talk about it, because neither of us can continue like this”. He came back and told me everything. If he hadn’t, I’d have left anyway that day.

OP, this is your decision and it’s not one to make lightly. Some women would prefer to turn a blind eye to infidelity. I don’t understand that but I understand that it works for some. If you’re not one of these women, you don’t have to tolerate years of shit waiting for him to ‘fess up to something you already know. Do whatever you need to do for you.

Devs123 · 21/01/2026 11:34

I am sorry you are going through this. A genuine question: Why do you put up with it? In my eyes, he clearly does not respect you. You have given him children, a home, you go in therapy. You do now owe him sex, when he cannot give you basic respect. Could you consider leaving - he has checked out..

Coffeislife · 21/01/2026 11:37

Wet wipes are likely for toys, if hes using condoms surely ? Would they be hidden somewhere? Do you clean the spare room or he ?

usaywhat · 21/01/2026 11:37

You have enough information to act. That is even clearer from your updates than it was in your op.

Even if he subsequently lets you look at his phone, he will have deleted incriminating stuff and moved chat to a work account or a hidden app. The fact that he point blank refused tells you everything. Particularly because you didn’t ask at random or out of insecurity, you asked for good reason.

I would refuse to discuss it any further with him. Instead, see the solicitor and plan your future. Get help and support to do this. But leave him out of it.

OriginalSkang · 21/01/2026 11:39

The OP doesn't need to have taken photos - she saw it and he knows he has them.

IAmKerplunk · 21/01/2026 11:39

Whether he is cheating or not (likely is) he is gaslighting you, being secretive to you, going through the motions with counselling despite not putting the effort in over the 2 years - that are not the characteristics of a man who loves and respects his wife. You deserve to be loved and respected. Your gut is screaming at you. Please listen to and plan and look forward to a life free of all of this and where your dc doesn’t grow up thinking this is how a happy and healthy relationship works.

TheThingOnTheIce · 21/01/2026 11:41

Coffeislife · 21/01/2026 11:37

Wet wipes are likely for toys, if hes using condoms surely ? Would they be hidden somewhere? Do you clean the spare room or he ?

I would guess the wipes are for freshening himself up before the deed tbh . Grim as it sounds

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 11:47

Or after, @TheThingOnTheIce , before coming home to being 'a great dad'.
Eugh!!

CremeCarmel · 21/01/2026 11:52

BadgernTheGarden · 21/01/2026 06:46

Were you together in 2009? I'm not sure condoms that old would be safe to use. He may have found them in old stuff when you were moving and hid them due to embarrassment or he may have thought those will come in useful who knows. I think you have to ask.

She said 2029 I think

TheLadyWithoutTheLamp · 21/01/2026 11:53

Get rid. Honestly, OP. Just do it. 2 years is a long time not to be happy. He's probably having an affair/fling but even if not, the therapy isn't working. You deserve more. See a solicitor

Edit - and he's lying and secretive. What's to stay for?

Coffeislife · 21/01/2026 11:55

TheThingOnTheIce · 21/01/2026 11:41

I would guess the wipes are for freshening himself up before the deed tbh . Grim as it sounds

Oh lord ew I was assuming with the overnights trips away ect there would be showers involved 😫

Moveoverdarlin · 21/01/2026 11:58

CharlotteLightandDark · 21/01/2026 10:42

If you’ve been in couples therapy for 2 YEARS and never have sex then the marriage is dead on its arse anyway.

Exactly. Those factors alone would suggest the marriage is dead in the water. Then if you mix in condoms, wipes (errrghh), refusal of phone access, spare room, sudden work trips and it’s an open and shut case.

I wouldn’t even give him the opportunity to recite the script. It’s lies. Get in there first and say it’s over.

Fuck me, he must think you’re stupid OP.

TwoTuesday · 21/01/2026 12:01

You've been in couples therapy for 2 years, that's a long time to be struggling. He can't be that bothered about you finding out, if the condoms weren't even hidden. He knows you know and has said nothing. You've not asked him about the finds. You don't have sex any more. Doesn't seem to be much left to work on, you've tried.

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 12:05

DaisyChain505 · 21/01/2026 10:55

It sounds like you’re beating a dead horse trying to save this marriage. Just know that you’ve tried, see it for what it is and call it a day.

Definitely thought this a few times today.

OP posts:
grumpygrape · 21/01/2026 12:10

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 12:05

Definitely thought this a few times today.

I realise I may be called naïve but as it sounds as if your marriage is over anyway, does it really matter whether he’s playing away?

Wouldn’t it just be easier to get the ducks sorted and go for a no fault divorce? Fretting about whether there is an affair, prostitutes, etc. etc., is only diverting your energies.