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Found condoms and wet wipes in DH's work/ travel bag (yes another one of these!)

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Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 06:17

I've read many similar threads on here, maybe adding another will help develop a data pool for trend analysis or FAQs for other Mumsnetters (ha!) but really, I just need to recount my experience and maybe get some advice specific to my circumstances - even though it's on a common topic.

Several condoms dated 2029, together with individually wrapped wet wipes multi pack - many of which are open - found in DH travel/ work backpack. No open or used condoms, just the wipes. Been in couples' therapy for 2 years, been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating. I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace. I was looking for pens or pencils for DS1 (6) homework last night (just moved house - no idea where the pens are yet) not looking for trouble. So I behaved calmly (I'm generally very expressive and emotional)and took out a sample of both on the floor by his bed, where I thought it would be obvious to him I had found them. I know he found them as I was flossing with my back turned as I hear me swearing and him jumping up to move them (DS1 and DS2 (3) were in their beds). The paraphernalia wasn't there when I turned and there has been no mention of it (not how I expected it to play out but determined not to be super emotional, which is what he would expect, and use to deflect from the problem at hand)

A few other things have my Spidey senses going. DH has been hugely and noticeably protective of his phone recently. He's always on it, won't show me me anything on his screen if he is looking at something and commenting on it, would rather send it to me (although he always would turn the screen to show me in the past). It never leaves his sight, it was on a charger close to me one night, next to the night stand with my water on it, I reached to get my water and he was barely awake and managed to sense, wake up and grab the phone as I reached my glass. He was never a fan of handing over his phone to DS to watch something as a distraction if we'd gotten desperate for him to sit still ( I am always happy to, unless I'm out of charge). Now, it is the only scenario where he would sooner make a scene (usually hates this) than hand it over.

He works in the office more, and goes for more conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight) social meals and drinks after work. I thought it was due to his new job, and my job is the same. The odder thing is how many short notice travel ones he now has, they weren't mentioned to me as an initial criterion for the role.

He's been very amenable to sleeping in the guest bedroom in the last few months too. DCs have been waking up a lot at night and coming into our bed. In fact he's most recently been insisting that they start the night in bed with me while he sleeps in the guest room, citing 'we would all get better sleep'. Which we actually have.

I should ask him outright, about the condoms. Maybe tonight after the kids are down (we may not get a chance in the morning, getting kids ready, and DH is working from the office all day). But he may have gotten rid of the evidence, and he has been known to lie and gaslight in the past to get out of things.

What would you think and do? If he has been cheating, the marriage becomes irreparable, in my view - couples' therapy be damned.

OP posts:
Oopsylazy · 21/01/2026 09:54

I’d say it’s pretty obvious he’s cheating.

Just know that you probably wont’t get an admission of it as they rarely want to be the bad guy so will deny, deny, deny.

You could try demanding he hand his phone over - if he point blank refuses you have your answer really.

It sounds like you’re not that bothered anyway though!

surrealpotato · 21/01/2026 09:54

It's extremely obvious that he's being unfaithful. I honestly can't believe the naivete of some of the comments here. "Maybe he's planning to be intimate with you". It is Black. And. White. That sort of willful ignorance is how so many men take advantage of women. I'm sorry OP, but please prepare yourself for the worst. Wishing you strength and courage.

PrincessofWells · 21/01/2026 09:55

Why is any of this relevant. He is not transparent, you no longer trust, like, or respect him? Lead from the front Op . . .

susiedaisy1912 · 21/01/2026 09:55

Separate op. It’s over.

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 09:56

DancingLions · 21/01/2026 09:32

I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace

This is the common line I see in your post and posts of a similar nature. Woman is blindsided because even though there are problems, she thought her DH was in the same place. Then finds out he's not. Two years is a long time to be in therapy with no progress.

You don't "deserve" to be cheated on. No one does. But you do need to be honest with each other. If he is having an affair, which seems highly likely, he's already "moved on". I don't see any other option but to split.

Crikey, seeing this has made me feel like such a mug, but I need to hear hard truths.

I'd like some honesty about it but I'm not sure I'm going to get any, so will need to brace myself to act with incomplete data - I'm terrible at this, it involves listening to my gut...and I always talk my gut out of its opinions.

OP posts:
CalmGreenEagle · 21/01/2026 09:57

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 09:51

You're right! I did, just before getting the kids up for school I asked him outright why he had wipes and condoms. Complete denial - every denial you can think of, do I surely not (until I mentioned I saw evidence and left it out for him and he hid it- to which he said he was hiding it from the kids finding it no other reason). He said wet wipes are for the kids but they are unmarked, not for resale multi packs that are individually wrapped in silver paper that smell to strongly to be used on the kids and are not the brand we use for the kids and I said this. I said there were many open wet wipes wrappers too. He then deflected to the condoms. He said they are likely old condoms, I told him the date, that they were in the front pouch of his daily backpack/ travel bag and shiny new. He said he had no idea where they were from. He then went to his washbag to point out that he had old condoms in there (where he used to keep them for our use) but unfortunately for him there was only one open pack of the brand new ones.

I said fine, would you let me look at your phone then as this would help ease my mind. I offered him to look through mine. Absolute refusal - bordering in getting into an argument so I let it drop. And asked him to reflect on what he would think and do if the roles were reversed, he'd found what I had found, and I also denied view of my phone. He's had problems with parents lying and gaslighting him too so I also asked him to think about how he has felt when people responsible for hurting him have point blank denied it.

We are in a stalemate now. He's gone to work. I've gone to work, via taking the kids to school.

Sorry OP. It's pretty obvious he is cheating and is in full blown denial/gaslighting mode. The condoms excuse could almost be reasonable on its own especially if he said he had bought them hoping that you would use them, but the point blank refusal to let you look at his phone coupled with his secretive behaviour in general is textbook cheating.

Cheating is a hard boundary for me and if I were in your shoes I'd end the marriage. He might not ever admit to the cheating though so I would be prepared for that.

Oopsylazy · 21/01/2026 10:00

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 09:51

You're right! I did, just before getting the kids up for school I asked him outright why he had wipes and condoms. Complete denial - every denial you can think of, do I surely not (until I mentioned I saw evidence and left it out for him and he hid it- to which he said he was hiding it from the kids finding it no other reason). He said wet wipes are for the kids but they are unmarked, not for resale multi packs that are individually wrapped in silver paper that smell to strongly to be used on the kids and are not the brand we use for the kids and I said this. I said there were many open wet wipes wrappers too. He then deflected to the condoms. He said they are likely old condoms, I told him the date, that they were in the front pouch of his daily backpack/ travel bag and shiny new. He said he had no idea where they were from. He then went to his washbag to point out that he had old condoms in there (where he used to keep them for our use) but unfortunately for him there was only one open pack of the brand new ones.

I said fine, would you let me look at your phone then as this would help ease my mind. I offered him to look through mine. Absolute refusal - bordering in getting into an argument so I let it drop. And asked him to reflect on what he would think and do if the roles were reversed, he'd found what I had found, and I also denied view of my phone. He's had problems with parents lying and gaslighting him too so I also asked him to think about how he has felt when people responsible for hurting him have point blank denied it.

We are in a stalemate now. He's gone to work. I've gone to work, via taking the kids to school.

Oh I missed this post. So you asked to see his phone and he refused - there’s only one reason for that isn’t there?

The fact you say you didn’t push it as there would be an argument shows your passivity OP. He will now likely go and delete everything and then let you look at his phone 🤷‍♀️ you have to strike while the iron’s hot with these things.

He’s going to gaslight the fuck out of you as he obviously doesn’t want to admit anything so just be prepared for that.

SpinandSing · 21/01/2026 10:02

What are the issues that you're having couples therapy for? I can't quite understand how people think they have a relationship when it is sexless - unless there is a medical or trauma related reason for that.

Jumimo · 21/01/2026 10:05

SpinandSing · 21/01/2026 10:02

What are the issues that you're having couples therapy for? I can't quite understand how people think they have a relationship when it is sexless - unless there is a medical or trauma related reason for that.

Well that’s absolute bollocks. There’s more to a relationship than sex! Jesus.

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 10:05

Condoms
hugely and noticeably protective of his phone
conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight)
social meals
drinks after work
short notice travel
sleeping in the guest bedroom

Affair. Prepare for The Script. He'll turn it all on you.

TheatreTheatre · 21/01/2026 10:06

He’s obviously cheating. He is obviously not putting effort into making your marriage work. He obviously wants to sleep separately and you are happy to also use your Dc as a human shield in order to sleep separately. (I don’t mean that as an accusation).

Are you wanting proof and as admission because you want him to take lead responsibility for ending the marriage?

I think you need to decide what you want and take responsibility. End the marriage? Have a straight talk with him and ‘stay together for the children’?

Do you actually love him?

Namechangerage · 21/01/2026 10:08

Sorry OP, it seems pretty damning to me. Get the best legal advice you can afford. Is he the type to start hiding assets etc now you’re on to him? Maybe he will be planning to leave anyway but didn’t want you to know while he sorted his finances. I’d get moving quickly…

Namechangerage · 21/01/2026 10:09

P.s. you don’t need hard evidence now. Just move on with the evidence you have (and it is evidence). Wish you well.

Imbusytodaysorry · 21/01/2026 10:12

@Ohtheregoesgravity what are the reasons for therapy ? Surely neither of you are happy with the way things are , why has the situation not been addressed ?
Are you happy with no sex and he’s just plodded along with it all?
Why is there no sex ?

Id answer these questions mainly to myself . I think you have possibly been burying your head op .

Oopsylazy · 21/01/2026 10:16

Jumimo · 21/01/2026 10:05

Well that’s absolute bollocks. There’s more to a relationship than sex! Jesus.

Not if one of them wants it and the other doesn’t - it’s never going to work.

Iwasneverafan · 21/01/2026 10:16

Two years in therapy has been a massive smokescreen for him to hide behind and future fake you.
Your gut is right
You sound strong and “done” with it too
Redirect your energies into sorting a new life for yourself rather than trying to get him to fess up … which is pointless and wasted energy.
💐

Lacee222 · 21/01/2026 10:18

It doesnt say because she hasn't had sex for 2 years,she doesnt fancy her husband,?there are a number of reasons menopause,anxiety/depression low self esteem etc etc etc.So please dont presume things when you dont no the full facts on sumone elses life's.

GiantTeddyIsTired · 21/01/2026 10:21

I'm sorry OP.

Are you on a family account for apps? I ask because mine was trawling hookup sites (all flavours - men, women, trans, prostitutes) and soliciting for them on Viber (which is why he stopped it showing messages on his computer after one popped up that I caught a glimpse of), and I could see when he downloaded those apps so when it started from there.

I found this out when I'd already decided to end it and checked the app download history for the family and saw it all (can you believe we're both in IT, but he didn't even bother to hide he was downloading those apps!)

Calliopespa · 21/01/2026 10:23

been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating.

No one "deserves" to be cheated on.

Lacee222 · 21/01/2026 10:24

I would definitely confront him with everything as hard as it is for you,im going to be honest with you,theres definitely sumthink not right if yous dont use condoms and also last min get aways with work etc, sleeping in the spare room I no this is such a difficult upsetting time for you,but its better to be open&honest and confront him.Good luck stay strong take care x

KoalaKoKo · 21/01/2026 10:24

As other’s have said he is obviously cheating, I would contact a lawyer and start gathering info of finances etc… he has likely been doing this for months. Personally I wouldn’t be able to forgive this! Are you still doing couples counselling?

Cardinalita90 · 21/01/2026 10:25

100% cheating (or using prostitutes).

You'll never get a honest answer from him so move on as though he is, or hire a private detective for proof if you think he might start to play dirty in a separation.

Unfortunately as someone else said, good marriage therapy shouldn't run indefinitely. If no meaningful progress has been made in 2 years it suggests stubbornness, being emotionally checked out, or the therapist is shit.

Moveoverdarlin · 21/01/2026 10:26

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 09:51

You're right! I did, just before getting the kids up for school I asked him outright why he had wipes and condoms. Complete denial - every denial you can think of, do I surely not (until I mentioned I saw evidence and left it out for him and he hid it- to which he said he was hiding it from the kids finding it no other reason). He said wet wipes are for the kids but they are unmarked, not for resale multi packs that are individually wrapped in silver paper that smell to strongly to be used on the kids and are not the brand we use for the kids and I said this. I said there were many open wet wipes wrappers too. He then deflected to the condoms. He said they are likely old condoms, I told him the date, that they were in the front pouch of his daily backpack/ travel bag and shiny new. He said he had no idea where they were from. He then went to his washbag to point out that he had old condoms in there (where he used to keep them for our use) but unfortunately for him there was only one open pack of the brand new ones.

I said fine, would you let me look at your phone then as this would help ease my mind. I offered him to look through mine. Absolute refusal - bordering in getting into an argument so I let it drop. And asked him to reflect on what he would think and do if the roles were reversed, he'd found what I had found, and I also denied view of my phone. He's had problems with parents lying and gaslighting him too so I also asked him to think about how he has felt when people responsible for hurting him have point blank denied it.

We are in a stalemate now. He's gone to work. I've gone to work, via taking the kids to school.

Bordering on getting in to an argument?? Fucking hell, if I found brand new johnnies in my husbands work bag there would be WW3! Especially when you and him have had sex twice in two years. Why does he need them? Why in the work bag? They’re new? You and him don’t have sex. Why does he need them??

He doesn’t have a leg to stand on. I would just decide what YOU want. You’re clearly both unhappy. It couldn’t be more obvious that he’s up to no good. Two years of therapy and no sex? You’re just wasting your precious life, get out. Cast him aside, before he does it to you.

I would get home first. Pack a hold-all of his things and leave it by the front door. I would simply say ‘The truth or you leave right now’.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/01/2026 10:27

Hi OP,
you’ve been given excellent advice so far please take heed and act sensibly -do what it takes to put yourself in the best financial position you can and get ahead when it comes to the child arrangements you think are best.

something that stuck a chord with me (possibly projection from my own past relationship) is you are thinking and acting sensibly and clearly and even say you sometimes ignore your gut, yet you’ve been accused by this man of being ‘too emotional’. This is someone who just doesn’t choose to care about your feelings, a good partner should even when they disagree on facts or interpretations. You should feel able and safe to express feelings. Not feel you have to quash them for fear of criticism. He doesn’t want to be exposed to your feelings so he can avoid guilt.

saying that, no amount of paragraphs about how much he’s hurt you will make him care - write down your feelings in a journal or switch to personal only therapy (you don’t need to explain or justify to him why you're stopping couples - he knows). Pour all your energy into yourself and your health and your looks (superficial I know but it honestly helps) and pretty much ignore him now. Choose yourself.

you might want to get some hard ‘evidence’ of cheating only if 1. It would justify you kicking him out (legally you can’t get but morally he might agree) or 2. You want to cause trouble for him and affair partner eg tell her husband if she has one. I didn’t go down that road but fully support you if you choose to!

if he wanted to save his marriage with you he would either have shown phone to prove innocence or begged and pleaded that it was one silly mistake he regrets it he loves you etc. he hasn’t bothered. I think he may even have done this on purpose to force you to start a fight so that he can walk out ‘because you’re so crazy.’

in your shoes I would get my ducks in a row and then tell him ‘it’s very clear our marriage is over, when are you planning to move out? This is my idea for child arrangement schedule days what do you think?’ If you CAN deliver it dead pan cold this will upset his ego as he’s used to dramas about him (but you have every right to cry and be emotional and feel your feelings alone or with your safe supported trusted people) xx

OriginalSkang · 21/01/2026 10:28

Its very clear that he is cheating, whether that is an affair or sex workers. What you've described here is evidence enough