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Found condoms and wet wipes in DH's work/ travel bag (yes another one of these!)

307 replies

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 06:17

I've read many similar threads on here, maybe adding another will help develop a data pool for trend analysis or FAQs for other Mumsnetters (ha!) but really, I just need to recount my experience and maybe get some advice specific to my circumstances - even though it's on a common topic.

Several condoms dated 2029, together with individually wrapped wet wipes multi pack - many of which are open - found in DH travel/ work backpack. No open or used condoms, just the wipes. Been in couples' therapy for 2 years, been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating. I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace. I was looking for pens or pencils for DS1 (6) homework last night (just moved house - no idea where the pens are yet) not looking for trouble. So I behaved calmly (I'm generally very expressive and emotional)and took out a sample of both on the floor by his bed, where I thought it would be obvious to him I had found them. I know he found them as I was flossing with my back turned as I hear me swearing and him jumping up to move them (DS1 and DS2 (3) were in their beds). The paraphernalia wasn't there when I turned and there has been no mention of it (not how I expected it to play out but determined not to be super emotional, which is what he would expect, and use to deflect from the problem at hand)

A few other things have my Spidey senses going. DH has been hugely and noticeably protective of his phone recently. He's always on it, won't show me me anything on his screen if he is looking at something and commenting on it, would rather send it to me (although he always would turn the screen to show me in the past). It never leaves his sight, it was on a charger close to me one night, next to the night stand with my water on it, I reached to get my water and he was barely awake and managed to sense, wake up and grab the phone as I reached my glass. He was never a fan of handing over his phone to DS to watch something as a distraction if we'd gotten desperate for him to sit still ( I am always happy to, unless I'm out of charge). Now, it is the only scenario where he would sooner make a scene (usually hates this) than hand it over.

He works in the office more, and goes for more conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight) social meals and drinks after work. I thought it was due to his new job, and my job is the same. The odder thing is how many short notice travel ones he now has, they weren't mentioned to me as an initial criterion for the role.

He's been very amenable to sleeping in the guest bedroom in the last few months too. DCs have been waking up a lot at night and coming into our bed. In fact he's most recently been insisting that they start the night in bed with me while he sleeps in the guest room, citing 'we would all get better sleep'. Which we actually have.

I should ask him outright, about the condoms. Maybe tonight after the kids are down (we may not get a chance in the morning, getting kids ready, and DH is working from the office all day). But he may have gotten rid of the evidence, and he has been known to lie and gaslight in the past to get out of things.

What would you think and do? If he has been cheating, the marriage becomes irreparable, in my view - couples' therapy be damned.

OP posts:
Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 12:12

Devs123 · 21/01/2026 11:34

I am sorry you are going through this. A genuine question: Why do you put up with it? In my eyes, he clearly does not respect you. You have given him children, a home, you go in therapy. You do now owe him sex, when he cannot give you basic respect. Could you consider leaving - he has checked out..

I can see why everyone is asking why I'm still here. We have been together since late teens - half our lives. And have been pretty codependent for most of that. Part of therapy has been trying to detangle this, as it wasn't working for us now, what with kids, ourselves growing up a bit in that time too.

OP posts:
MissDoubleU · 21/01/2026 12:18

Don’t let this go. If he returns home suddenly
happy to show you his phone this only proves further he is a liar with serious stuff to hide. He will have needed time to delete the evidence before letting you see.

Get your ducks in a row and choose yourself. What a disgusting man.

Oopsylazy · 21/01/2026 12:21

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 10:58

He did point blank refuse his phone.

It's not that I'm not bothered, although I can see why it seems that way. I'm switching between numbness and exhaustion and just shaky at the moment. We've been in a bad place for a while now, and recently I just had a feeling that something was going on so maybe that's part of it. Also, I guess I've just been waiting for evidence I couldn't talk myself out of and I think this is it, so there is definitely an element of relief.

Apologies if my earlier comment about not being bothered seemed mean OP - all I meant is it seems you’ve checked out and this is perfectly understandable if your dh isn’t supportive etc.

I’ve been there with those feelings of being “numb” - it’s like a cognitive dissonance - a coping mechanism when you know things aren’t right but you don’t know how to leave.

ldnmusic87 · 21/01/2026 12:24

I think his reaction would have been very telling, was he surprised OP?

ThejoyofNC · 21/01/2026 12:28

Don't be surprised if it comes home from work and offers you to look through his phone. Don't bother. It'll be a waste of time, he's had all day to clear and hide everything he needs to.

Loobyloolovesandypandy · 21/01/2026 12:28

BadgernTheGarden · 21/01/2026 06:46

Were you together in 2009? I'm not sure condoms that old would be safe to use. He may have found them in old stuff when you were moving and hid them due to embarrassment or he may have thought those will come in useful who knows. I think you have to ask.

2029!!!!!!!!!

ChattyCatty25 · 21/01/2026 12:40

You shouldn’t have shown him the condom and wipes or asked him - all you’ve done is given him a massive heads up to plot, prepare and destroy evidence.

If you have good reason to suspect cheating you should get yourself prepared first (legal advice, emptying half of joint accounts, etc) so he can’t thwart you.

Maybe now you could pretend to believe him, so you can be organising in the background.

Angrybird76 · 21/01/2026 12:41

Honestly some of these comments 'maybe it's because he doesn't want to get you pregnant' maybe they are old and he forgot them. Really?? If it looks like a dog and barks like a dog. It's a dog. Your relationship has been difficult for years and you have had suspicions for a while. He is cheating in one form or another. You have tried for 2 years I think and its no better - so either you decide you are staying and making the best of it, or you look at how you leave. If it helps, my exH was a multiple cheater, mainly sex websites, contacting other women but he had 2 affairs. I didnt leave because of my DC and quite frankly I was terrified! In the end he left me for someone else, and while it was hard, it was only hard for quite a short period of time all things considered. He was so toxic when I was living in the house myself and DD left and I rented a 2 bed flat. I also took our two dogs so it was very cramped. He was a nightmare in the divorce, but once i was out I was FINE. I loved my freedom, i loved living alone and didnt realise how awful my situation was until I was out of it. You can do it I promise. 5 years on a have my own house, and a fiance and a great life. Moreover i have the confidence to not put up with shoddy behaviour again. Good luck x

StephensLass1977 · 21/01/2026 12:41

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 12:12

I can see why everyone is asking why I'm still here. We have been together since late teens - half our lives. And have been pretty codependent for most of that. Part of therapy has been trying to detangle this, as it wasn't working for us now, what with kids, ourselves growing up a bit in that time too.

And his response is to sleep with someone else?

IMO there's no excuse for that. It's up there with "but we were on a break!"

Redcandlescandal · 21/01/2026 12:47

Egglio · 21/01/2026 11:29

Why is everyone suggesting an STD check when OP clearly says they haven't had sex?

She clearly states that they have had sex in the past two years.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 21/01/2026 12:48

Redcandlescandal · 21/01/2026 12:47

She clearly states that they have had sex in the past two years.

She’s not said recently though and she’s just found the paraphanelia. He doesn’t even share a bed with her,

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 21/01/2026 12:50

StephensLass1977 · 21/01/2026 12:41

And his response is to sleep with someone else?

IMO there's no excuse for that. It's up there with "but we were on a break!"

He was hardly likely to be celibate, so as much as he should have ended it, I think most people could have guessed he’d go elsewhere.

Serafee · 21/01/2026 12:52

Op I’m so sorry you’re in this position but he’s cheating and he’s lying to you, you’ve been in therapy for years and your relationship is not good. There is no coming back from this.

The only thing you need to do is pack a bag for him, hand it to him when he gets back and say you want a divorce. You’ve already shown your hand so there is no point in delaying whilst you secretly take advice. Just take advice now. Arrange an appointment with a solicitor today.

TellyOrNap · 21/01/2026 12:55

I just want to say that you don't deserve it if he has cheated. You're the mother of his children and he could have treated you with more respect and left instead if he wasn't happy.

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 12:56

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 21/01/2026 12:50

He was hardly likely to be celibate, so as much as he should have ended it, I think most people could have guessed he’d go elsewhere.

Biscuit
ThrowingDi · 21/01/2026 12:56

Just end the relationship and take the power away from him.

i predict he will show you his phone and it will be squeaky clean now that he’s had the heads up to remove anything. You’ll never ever get the truth from him.

Devs123 · 21/01/2026 12:57

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 12:12

I can see why everyone is asking why I'm still here. We have been together since late teens - half our lives. And have been pretty codependent for most of that. Part of therapy has been trying to detangle this, as it wasn't working for us now, what with kids, ourselves growing up a bit in that time too.

Totally understand. I had serious abandonmend issues and my last relationship broke me. It is different circumstances, but I did not enter a relationship until I was truly ready. My partner now know that I love him, but I love me more. Act in line or you will shut the door from the outside. I worked very hard to build that independance incl financially, work, network etc.

All I can suggest is leave couples therapy and go to individual one. Focus on you. Build your self-esteem and if you can and haven't already finances, routine where you manage alone, network. You then ask for trial separation and kick him out. See how that feels. Explore life and get to know you a little. You can then decide whether to divorce or not.

ThrowingDi · 21/01/2026 12:59

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 12:56

Biscuit

To be honest I do agree with @Daisywhatsyouranswer

I don’t know why certain women think they’re special and that this wouldn’t happen to them and that their partner will be willing to wait forever

I’m only in my 20s so don’t have these significant relationship issues personally, but how many women historically have reported similar? Humans aren’t that complex - affairs just boil down to someone having that affairs because they wanted to. I don’t know why there’s a subsection of middle aged women who refuse to believe their partner would ever do to them, what happens to millions of other women.

Nevermind17 · 21/01/2026 13:04

ThrowingDi · 21/01/2026 12:59

To be honest I do agree with @Daisywhatsyouranswer

I don’t know why certain women think they’re special and that this wouldn’t happen to them and that their partner will be willing to wait forever

I’m only in my 20s so don’t have these significant relationship issues personally, but how many women historically have reported similar? Humans aren’t that complex - affairs just boil down to someone having that affairs because they wanted to. I don’t know why there’s a subsection of middle aged women who refuse to believe their partner would ever do to them, what happens to millions of other women.

I don’t think men need any excuses - sex or no sex. I was having sex with my exH every day and he still had affairs. His justification was that I didn’t scream like they do in porn. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I really dislike this view that it must always be the woman’s fault. If he doesn’t want to live in a sexless marriage he should have left.

Middlemarch123 · 21/01/2026 13:06

Bless you OP.
Do you have a separate bank account? If not, get one today. Look online for a good local family lawyer, with good reviews, book an appointment, get paperwork together, screenshot everything. He’s going to play dirty. Don’t bother asking to see phone again, he’s destroyed anything incriminating.
Focus is on you, kids. He’s a few steps ahead, you’re playing catchup, your emotions are free falling. You will be okay. I would suggest playing your cards close to your chest, offload on a good trusted friend, and shut down any attempts he makes to gaslight you, because believe me, he will. I’ve been where you are, it’s bloody awful, but you’re a strong lady, and will get through this. And cancel the therapy, perhaps get a different therapist for yourself 💐

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 13:08

@ThrowingDi , Biscuit

Angrybird76 · 21/01/2026 13:12

ThrowingDi · 21/01/2026 12:59

To be honest I do agree with @Daisywhatsyouranswer

I don’t know why certain women think they’re special and that this wouldn’t happen to them and that their partner will be willing to wait forever

I’m only in my 20s so don’t have these significant relationship issues personally, but how many women historically have reported similar? Humans aren’t that complex - affairs just boil down to someone having that affairs because they wanted to. I don’t know why there’s a subsection of middle aged women who refuse to believe their partner would ever do to them, what happens to millions of other women.

ok love. Come back to us all when you are in your fourties. My exh cheated on me throughout our relationship and we were having plenty of sex. He is also now cheating on the woman he left me for. Some men are just cheats. they dont need an excuse. The only difference is 'middle aged' women have more experience of it.

Spookyspaghetti · 21/01/2026 13:16

ThrowingDi · 21/01/2026 12:59

To be honest I do agree with @Daisywhatsyouranswer

I don’t know why certain women think they’re special and that this wouldn’t happen to them and that their partner will be willing to wait forever

I’m only in my 20s so don’t have these significant relationship issues personally, but how many women historically have reported similar? Humans aren’t that complex - affairs just boil down to someone having that affairs because they wanted to. I don’t know why there’s a subsection of middle aged women who refuse to believe their partner would ever do to them, what happens to millions of other women.

The op hasn’t said who was responsible for the intimacy problems. Maybe he couldn’t get it up for non-porn types anymore or maybe the affair has been going more than two years limiting his sex life with his actual wife. But, as you have said you are very young, you won’t yet understand how relationships change over long time periods.

BauhausOfEliott · 21/01/2026 13:25

OP, you seem to be quite hung up on needing to get a confession out of him before you can end your marriage.

You don't need one. It sounds like you've had virtually no sexual relationship for years, you've been in therapy for two years and got nowhere, and you are fully aware that he is cheating on you. He might be having an affair, he might be hooking up for one night stands on Tinder or he might be paying sex workers. There's a chance he hasn't actually done it yet but at the very least, he's made enough plans to have bought condoms.

You don't need him to admit it. You just need to accept that it's over and ask him to leave.

TellyOrNap · 21/01/2026 13:33

ThrowingDi · 21/01/2026 12:59

To be honest I do agree with @Daisywhatsyouranswer

I don’t know why certain women think they’re special and that this wouldn’t happen to them and that their partner will be willing to wait forever

I’m only in my 20s so don’t have these significant relationship issues personally, but how many women historically have reported similar? Humans aren’t that complex - affairs just boil down to someone having that affairs because they wanted to. I don’t know why there’s a subsection of middle aged women who refuse to believe their partner would ever do to them, what happens to millions of other women.

I agree to an extent if it's literally been years, although there's always the choice to leave instead.

But I'm in my thirties, and you do not want to get into a dynamic where you have to sleep with a man often enough to stop him cheating. Which is the flip side of what you're saying. You should be able to trust someone throughout periods of illness, dry spells after having babies, all the stuff that goes on in long term relationships.