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Terrible daughter or terrible mother?

207 replies

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 18:24

Hi, I have three children, work full time and like a lot of families have a very little disposible income after bills etc. Anyway, work gave me a £50 one4all voucher as they do every year for Xmas and the last two years I've given it to my mum as I don't have much money. This evening, she text me saying she couldn't order a lamp from Next as they don't take that gift card, her exact text is as follows:

Is the gift card you gave me one4all, your gift card from your work for Christmas? Because I asked you for a next gift card to buy the lamp and it doesn't allow me to use it in next? Nice, really, am I worth so little to you! It just makes me feel worthless. Thanks for your cast off.

So I sent her £50 and said I'll take the gift card back and that she knows I don't have much money and to stop looking for an argument. She said shes ashamed of me and that I use her (she looks after my 2 yr old on a wednesday). I haven't replied. Is this thoughtless and unfair?

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Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:06

Unconvinced8768 · 29/12/2025 18:58

I see the apple did not fall far from the tree

Absolutely not. Maybe context would suffice.. I couldn't afford anything for her birthday in August and I explained this and that I would make it up to her but I bought her a card and told her I would make it up to her. But she only text me then too with a similar message.

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Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:09

2026NewTricks · 29/12/2025 19:02

I think people who get free childcare from a family member they trust have no idea how lucky they are.

I know how lucky I am, if i didn't I wouldn't be posting this in the first place. I'm very grateful that she cares for my daughter but I'm not in a place to buy her a £50 gift card.

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arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 19:11

So what did you do since August to make up for not getting her a birthday present?

arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 19:14

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 18:58

I think its quite clear that because I didn't gift her the exact gift card she asked for it made her incredibly annoyed and therefore she definitely wouldn't appreciate something homemade. And imo texting their daughter to say they're ashamed of them over not gifting the correct gift card isn't dramatic and 'crazy' then please correct me.

It’s clear that you’re stressed.
I don’t think it’s crazy, no, to expect some appreciation for what she’s doing.
you are very quick to vilify her for her language, whilst not taking any accountability for your own actions which led to said language.

EatYourDamnPie · 29/12/2025 19:15

Are you actually proper skint , or do you have other (maybe seen as frivolous) priorities?

If the first, it’s a shitty message to send, especially if she knows you’re struggling. I bet that £50 would’ve made your life easier in your pocket.

If the second, I can see her point, however, there are more adult and reasonable ways to get that point across.

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:16

arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 19:11

So what did you do since August to make up for not getting her a birthday present?

We went to the garden centre and had lunch, she doesn't drive so I drove her to the dentist and waited an hour with my 2 year old whilst her and my brother went in. I lent her £100 for a plumber until she could pay me back. I said I would change her elderly mother-in-law on Xmas day if she has an accident as she has dementia because she didn't feel confident doing it.

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2026NewTricks · 29/12/2025 19:17

You know how lucky you are but you didn’t get her anything for her Birthday either? No wonder she’s pissed.

plinkyplonk123 · 29/12/2025 19:19

It feels like there’s a lot more to the story here as going from giving someone a £50 voucher to that person then being ashamed of you seems like a massive leap

Tadpolesinponds · 29/12/2025 19:20

I'd be interested to hear your mother's version of events. Out of interest, what did you give your DH and DCs for Christmas? She's doing you a big favour and I think you should have bought her the lamp or given her the money for the lamp. Especially after you let her down on her birthday.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/12/2025 19:20

arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 18:46

So she looks after your dd every Wednesday, saving you what £80 each time, and you didn’t buy her a Xmas present, just regifted something you got?
that’s really off op.
her message wasn’t good, but I’m not surprised she’s feeling taken advantage of.
if you’ve got no money, the best thing to do is make something, rather than regift, especially when she knows it’s a regift!

I think you might find that she will be saying no to the childcare soon, and tbf, she has a point.

if op had got a £50 cash gift off work and given that to her mother, would that have been ok? ultimately she gave her a gift worth £50. it wasn't like it was half used

arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 19:21

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:16

We went to the garden centre and had lunch, she doesn't drive so I drove her to the dentist and waited an hour with my 2 year old whilst her and my brother went in. I lent her £100 for a plumber until she could pay me back. I said I would change her elderly mother-in-law on Xmas day if she has an accident as she has dementia because she didn't feel confident doing it.

Ok, those were nice of you. But it sounds like she is on the bones of her arse too here, so you could maybe cut each other some slack. She is doing you a massive favour which sounds like it’s vital. It isn’t unreasonable of her if she wanted a lamp from next to ask for it for Xmas, and be upset that you didn’t get it for her, given all she does for you. If you couldn’t afford it, then an explanation of that would have been nicer than a regift you knew she couldn’t use.

Coffeeishot · 29/12/2025 19:25

You sent your mum a freebie no wonder she is annoyed is she really not worth a lamp from Next ?

BunnyLake · 29/12/2025 19:27

Do you generally have a difficult relationship with her?

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:27

2026NewTricks · 29/12/2025 19:17

You know how lucky you are but you didn’t get her anything for her Birthday either? No wonder she’s pissed.

In return she didn't buy me anything for my birthday, which is fair, but I didn't feel the need to text her. Why does my love or respect have to be proven through money?

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Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:29

arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 19:21

Ok, those were nice of you. But it sounds like she is on the bones of her arse too here, so you could maybe cut each other some slack. She is doing you a massive favour which sounds like it’s vital. It isn’t unreasonable of her if she wanted a lamp from next to ask for it for Xmas, and be upset that you didn’t get it for her, given all she does for you. If you couldn’t afford it, then an explanation of that would have been nicer than a regift you knew she couldn’t use.

Yes an explanation would've been helpful but her reaction would have been the same.

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Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:29

BunnyLake · 29/12/2025 19:27

Do you generally have a difficult relationship with her?

At times yes.

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TappyGilmore · 29/12/2025 19:30
  1. Her text is rude. It’s the pathetic sort of thing a child would say, “I asked you for xxx but you didn’t get it for me.” Anyone is free to ask for whatever they want but the gift giver decides if they will give what has been asked for, or something else.
  2. £50 is a reasonably significant amount that if you were going to buy something, I wouldn’t necessarily expect that you’d spend that much.
  3. I don’t know what one4all is (I’m not in the UK) but assume it is a gift card that can be used at many retailers. Why doesn’t she just pick a different lamp from a retailer that does accept it?

What I do think is that you could have aimed for a more thoughtful gift, even if it was something that didn’t cost much. Baking or something. Because it’s your mother. Not because she provides childcare one day a week.

TomatoSandwiches · 29/12/2025 19:31

A mother who knows her child is struggling financially shouldn6be sending texts like that to you.

I would remove any conceived burden from her life, find alternative childcare and stop sending her anything altogether.
Mumsnet likes to remind us that Christmas and Birthdays for adults is silly, gifts are for children.

Octavia64 · 29/12/2025 19:35

She was rude.

regifting is also pretty rude to be fair.
obviously you can’t do it now but maybe in future use the voucher for stuff you need and give her something she does want?

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 29/12/2025 19:37

2026NewTricks · 29/12/2025 19:17

You know how lucky you are but you didn’t get her anything for her Birthday either? No wonder she’s pissed.

Have you the faintest idea what it is like to have no money?

And it's 'pissed OFF', not 'pissed'. Pissed means something else entirely.

arethereanyleftatall · 29/12/2025 19:38

What would your plan be op if she withdraws the childcare?

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · 29/12/2025 19:38

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 19:27

In return she didn't buy me anything for my birthday, which is fair, but I didn't feel the need to text her. Why does my love or respect have to be proven through money?

She looks after your child once a week. That’s your birthday, Christmas and Hanukkah present. Toss in Eid and Diwali. All the presents.

You sound very very entitled. And extremely ungrateful. A £50 gift card and a birthday present are literally nothing compared to the amount of money she’s saving you in childcare.

2026NewTricks · 29/12/2025 19:41

RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 29/12/2025 19:37

Have you the faintest idea what it is like to have no money?

And it's 'pissed OFF', not 'pissed'. Pissed means something else entirely.

@RescueMeFromThisSilliness newsflash not everyone on this site resides in England.

Oh and in answer to your rude question - Have I ever been poor? As a child yes. As an adult no.

Isayitasitis · 29/12/2025 19:43

I think you're being tight and your mum was over the top and rude.

Just save a bit each month over the year. You don't have to go to £50 am sure even twenty towards it is better than nothing.

She clearly feels hard done by which is a bit dramatic but I also don't think you realise she's doing you a favour too.

Terrribletwos · 29/12/2025 19:43

Tryandtryagain02 · 29/12/2025 18:24

Hi, I have three children, work full time and like a lot of families have a very little disposible income after bills etc. Anyway, work gave me a £50 one4all voucher as they do every year for Xmas and the last two years I've given it to my mum as I don't have much money. This evening, she text me saying she couldn't order a lamp from Next as they don't take that gift card, her exact text is as follows:

Is the gift card you gave me one4all, your gift card from your work for Christmas? Because I asked you for a next gift card to buy the lamp and it doesn't allow me to use it in next? Nice, really, am I worth so little to you! It just makes me feel worthless. Thanks for your cast off.

So I sent her £50 and said I'll take the gift card back and that she knows I don't have much money and to stop looking for an argument. She said shes ashamed of me and that I use her (she looks after my 2 yr old on a wednesday). I haven't replied. Is this thoughtless and unfair?

I think that's an awful reaction from your mother, truly awful!

Really can't understand her. Is this how she usually is?