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Partner’s “platonic” friendship with my friend feels off — would this bother anyone else?

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Sidelined101 · 18/07/2025 02:12

I’ve been in an on-and-off relationship with a man for a couple of years. We’ve had a deep emotional and physical bond, though it’s not always been stable. A big reason for this is that he’s inconsistent and emotionally avoidant or seems to be, I have absolutely twisted myself up in knots trying to make it work and to understand him .

We describe things as monogamous and that we love each other although currently it feels dead and empty and I’m incredibly lonely dealing with huge things alone and no input of any use from him.
it breaks my heart .
About a year into our relationship, he met a woman , let’s call her Sophie , at a festival. She’s since become a mutual friend.

Here’s the thing: they each told me a very different story about how they met. His version was vague and pretty innocuous although felt disconcertingly vague which is a pattern of his, more always comes out later.

Her version was very recent.
we’d both been drinking, her much more than me, her version was more effusive, how he’d looked after her all day,’was so lovely’, been kind and thoughtful, really made an impression.
At the time I just let it pass, as she enthused and rhapsodised about him but in hindsight it left a little crack of doubt.

Since then, they’ve become increasingly close.
its often her who will let slip they have been chatting online about this and that, he will frame it as she is trying to get him to do x, y and z activity and he is being pulled into it almost against his will but it’s clear he’s also loving the feeling of her wanting h is presence.
I’ve tried to take it in stride , I even grew very friendly with Sophie myself because she has got an amazing personality, is kind, fun, funny and I believed honest and transparent .

But there have been moments where the dynamic between them has felt uncomfortably intimate , not necessarily sexual, but somehow sidelining.
They chat often, she’s been in the loop on things he’s not mentioned to me, and I’ve started to feel like the last to know. Recent example being that she told me they were both messaging privately about a gig they both want to go to in another city, neither had mentioned it to me, she told me in the context of him telling her some news about me ‘we just got chatting’ and this was very close to me having broken down and told her some things about our relationship on a night where she’d been sharing her woes with me about her on/ off partner.

What really hit me this week: he messaged inviting me to a music night I’d already marked on socials as “interested” in months ago.
he rarely invited me to anything and we’re not particularly close at the moment so it was a surprise . I have a lot on so I said I might not make it but no doubt Sophie will be going and he just ‘heart reacted’ my message then changed the subject…

Then a bit later, the same night, Sophie messaged about the same eve, not directly inviting me, but telling me she’s been discussing who to invite with my on/off partner and I said that’s a funny coincidence, my (on/off )partner invited me out of the blue tonight and she responded ‘I know he did!’

said she and he had been talking about inviting me and another friend and ended our messages in a kind of “you’re coming with us” tone.
i haven’t responded to her yet but i feel pissed off.

It felt less like a genuine, spontaneous invite and more like I was being folded into something already set. He also completely glossed over the part where I mentioned she’d likely be going, so he’s got company if I don’t go - she messaged an hour later and told me clearly he’d known she’d be going all along .
It felt weird. I felt weird.

i have also noticed this has happened before but I didn’t read as much into it last time

To add to the unease: Sophie has a pattern. I’ve seen her ask out nearly every man she becomes close to.

I’ve watched her copy-paste invites to multiple people until someone bites. She’s charismatic and friendly, yes, but also intense, persuasive, and has very fixed attachments.
my in /off partner doesn’t seem to grasp that she’s inviting everyone and talks about her invites very much as though she’s only focusing on him.
there has been some weird evasive omitting of information by him more than once, often things that had he been upfront initially they would not become as significant later on…

And while she and I have been close, I now feel a bit exposed , I’ve shared a lot with her about my ups and downs with my partner, and I don’t feel confident she’s holding those things with care.

he’s never once mentioned this pattern of hers , even though he seems to know her well now.

has also shown herself to be extremely jealous and possessive of her own ‘partner’ and has told me more than once about women friends who are jealous of her ‘friendship’ with their partners, she frames it very much as a ‘them problem’ for being paranoid and jealous.

It just all doesn’t sit right. Am I being paranoid for thinking something’s off?

I’m neurodivergent (autistic and ADHD) and can struggle to filter what’s “just” social weirdness vs. genuine red flags. I try not to catastrophise, but I also know I often overlook things too long when I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

Would this bother you? Would you say something or step back? Is this just awkward social energy or something deeper?

How would you handle it from here?

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Sidelined101 · 26/07/2025 04:04

Should also add , for completion: one day last week before I clearly ended it, my now EX messaged me apropos of nothing to say that he no longer going to the event which I mentioned in my first post (and subsequent posts)

around the same time she messaged me to say that her on /off bloke can no longer make it either , without mentioning my ex.

I don’t know what happened there with my ex, I wonder if he’d picked up something in my tone and was trying to appease me or he didn’t want to go out with just her if Gordon wasn’t available, I’ll never know, lots of niggly questions I’ll have to live without
but also her on/ off man has let me down again, high and dry, so my job by him is unfinished.

he’d assured me last week it was all in hand and just to finalise and then he hasn’t been in touch since but her message about him not attending the event was enough for me to know he isn’t going to come back.

im furious with him for not having the balls to tell me himself and of course I’m pissed off at her weird gatekeeping style with both my ex and ‘my worker’ but I’ve decided to take the financial hit and be done with the lot of them.
flakey weird drama square can now be their flakey weird drama triangle .

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tuvamoodyson · 26/07/2025 05:51

Sidelined101 · 18/07/2025 07:20

I hate the drama it’s making me ill second guessing myself all the time and not understanding other people’s motives

Then dump him!!!

Ohnobackagain · 26/07/2025 10:49

@Sidelined101 tell him to bring your valuable item back and collect his stuff at the same time. Have someone there when he does, as moral support.

Sidelined101 · 26/07/2025 10:58

tuvamoodyson · 26/07/2025 05:51

Then dump him!!!

Relationship is ended !!! See updates!!!

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Sidelined101 · 26/07/2025 10:58

Ohnobackagain · 26/07/2025 10:49

@Sidelined101 tell him to bring your valuable item back and collect his stuff at the same time. Have someone there when he does, as moral support.

Good plan thank you

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IHate · 26/07/2025 11:13

Sidelined101 · 26/07/2025 10:58

Good plan thank you

Actually, if you have someone willing to do the handoff/exchange, you don’t even need to be there at all.

knackredd · 26/07/2025 12:07

Sidelined101 · 26/07/2025 03:42

lol, yes!
thank you for checking in.

They’re not in my life,I ended things with him with zero drama after much introspection on my part and also because of how my mind works, I spent time really studying the accounts of people who have been in relationships for years with emotionally avoidant and immature people and how it affected them, plus looked honestly at the timeline of our relationship

I told him enough is enough, I didn’t go into any of the he said/ she said bollocks and kept it quite neutral and although he acted upset he agreed it was for the best.
he did some breadcrumbing behaviour of which I expect more but I feel fully confident in my decision this time and my right to happiness and freedom with clarity .

i have to try and be strong enough not to fall back into bed with him because physically I’m still attracted because he’s attractive but mentally and emotionally I’m done.

he keeps trying to come and get his ‘stuff’ and I keep putting him off for now, tbh his stuff is of no real consequence but it’s his pattern and he has something of value of mine so I need to work out a plan for that

i just told her I’m taking a break from everything and shut down my socials and she has gone quiet.
I’m sure she will reappear again at some point but I think out of sight out of mind with her because I’m off the socials and I’m sure he’ll have kept her updated but I have a swift exit plan for her if she does pop up.

I’m glad I spoke on here annd shared everything , it helped me to get it of my chest to someone so when it came to them I could keep everything very neutral.
He’s lied to me 100 times and what would be the point of my exposing my insecurities about them two when she has form for broadcasting this stuff and to an extent so does he?
I don’t want to become the villain in their shitty little betrayal story.

i hope they are both hoist by their joint petard and if not i will just try to keep them out of my head and life as much as possible!

actually relieved and not upset anymore,8 have cried a lot but i feel ive given myself a gift by cutting off the stress at source.
onwards and upwards for me

i have to try and be strong enough not to fall back into bed with him because physically I’m still attracted because he’s attractive but mentally and emotionally I’m done.

Look up 'hysterical bonding' - its a physiological and psychological drive during break-ups - dont fall into the trap - it will pass.

Well done. Its very powerful to be measured and calm and not hand this little toxic duo the drama they love to incite - it will leave them confused.

Detach. Distance. Dignity = your power and self esteem.

Get busy socially now in your 'new life' even if you dont feel like it to kill time and distract. Lots of selfcare, treat yourself to something new skincare/make-up/facial/clothes maybe. But get out an reconnect with friends etc.

Sidelined101 · 26/07/2025 19:02

knackredd · 26/07/2025 12:07

i have to try and be strong enough not to fall back into bed with him because physically I’m still attracted because he’s attractive but mentally and emotionally I’m done.

Look up 'hysterical bonding' - its a physiological and psychological drive during break-ups - dont fall into the trap - it will pass.

Well done. Its very powerful to be measured and calm and not hand this little toxic duo the drama they love to incite - it will leave them confused.

Detach. Distance. Dignity = your power and self esteem.

Get busy socially now in your 'new life' even if you dont feel like it to kill time and distract. Lots of selfcare, treat yourself to something new skincare/make-up/facial/clothes maybe. But get out an reconnect with friends etc.

Ooh interesting thanks I will look into it, and yes I do need to get back out there. I have had a lot on lately. I have spent a lot of today sorting my house and reclaiming the space and some time in the sun, and listening to relevant podcasts to help with processing my’stuff’, has been an emotional and practical day, exhausted now!

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