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Husband wants to leave me after finding out I'm pregnant with our second baby

224 replies

ThatDreamyDolphin · 01/06/2025 01:46

I am in a crisis. My husband of 8 years (together 11, known each other for 21) has instructed a trial separation. He has made it clear he wants a final separation at the moment with the way he's feeling. He fell into a depression while I was pregnant with our first daughter, now nearly 6. This was rooted in a job loss that left him unemployed for 2 months and then starting a new job when I was 8 months pregnant. His jobs felt insecure and we were worried about money. He then struggled to bond with our daughter because he said he felt redundant, that she only wanted me. Then when she was 6 months old lockdown hit and both of us were made redundant. His industry (travel sales) had no jobs at all. He ended up doing a course and we really struggled financially which took a toll on our relationship on top of sleep deprivation.

But after the year's course he found a good job again (as had I in the meantime after my maternity) and our jobs have felt so much better and more secure as time has gone on. Also he has a fantastic bond with our daughter now, since she's been about 1.5/2. I had always wanted two. He had always said "one or two". When our daughter reached about 2 and things felt better I started to talk about TTC. He kept saying "in 6 months" "at Christmas" "in the spring" "when our finances are a bit better". We talked a lot and he realised how much this meant to me and I tried to talk about ways we could support him. He was worried about getting depressed again. After about 2 years, he accepted that we start to try. We tried for over a year in total with a miscarriage in between. Then I suggested IVF as a last attempt. He signed all the paperwork and did his part. It worked. I found out 4 weeks ago that I am pregnant. I knew he would struggle a bit but his reaction has been frightening. It started off as cold and distant, totally refusing to talk. His anger towards me got worse and worse. A few days ago we were supposed to be going on a short camping trip with friends, but he asked to miss the first night to go to a festival to release what was in his head. He let out daughter down to do this as she had been promised a family camping trip. When he returned, he was as cold as ice. He told me we are done and it's over. Really really angry at me. I tried to plead with him to work through this together, that I didn't realise his depression would come back in such force. I thought having therapy and support would be enough and these things had already been lined up to be ready. I know we should have had some more honest conversations in the past, but I now feel so hopeless and vulnerable that I'm now pregnant and he's leaving. Financially now it is such a worry and also the worry of being alone, losing my daughter for part of the week, moving house, and just heart broken as I really love him. He refuses to go to any counselling which I feel is so awful considering we've a lot to lose. I'm not sure what to do. He is blaming me for his depression, his problems, our relationship problems, and I have internalised this at times. But I don't believe at the core the depression is to do with me. It was never dealt with it was just ignored, despite me always trying to get him to talk to people and to get counselling in the past. He is an avoidant type. I feel so powerless to stop him from making such a huge decision when he's in this place and I'm finding it all really hard. He's totally shut off from me and it really hurts as well as all the practical worries and our daughter.

I'm not sure what to make of this situation.

OP posts:
AnonAnonmystery · 01/06/2025 15:38

I do feel this is the “script” and he’s using the fear of depression as a front.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 15:39

GlenmoreSprings · 01/06/2025 15:35

Based on his history and not being able to bond with his first child- absolutely. Actions speaker louder than words. Again, it is going to be those poor children who suffer from all of this.

Actions definitely speak louder than words. And agreeing to IVF then ending the marriage when it proves successful makes no sense at all. And if l were OP l think l’d be quite insulted at the allusions to ‘those poor children’ when in all likelihood she will strive to give them everything they need because they are wanted and loved. Unlike the shitbag who bailed on her because he clearly has someone else waiting for him in the wings.

Sassybooklover · 01/06/2025 15:41

I'm inclined to agree with other posters, it was clear that this man didn't want another child. He'd stalled for 2 years, giving various excuses, eventually giving in to try, which resulted in a miscarriage. Then he agreed to IVF, probably thinking it was unlikely to be successful. Nothing excuses his behaviour and treatment of the OP, because ultimately he should have been completely honest. Instead he chose to use stalling tactics, before giving in whilst hoping pregnancy wouldn't happen. He's a spineless coward. However, the OP shouldn't have been so blinkered, she wanted another child and didn't want to see the red flag. Him having such severe MH issues during her last pregnancy, would have completely put me off bringing a second child into the mix.

Meadowfinch · 01/06/2025 15:45

LaLaLaLavaChChChChicken · 01/06/2025 04:14

Let him go, work on your own and your daughter’s health and happiness. You can’t be dealing with someone who treats you like that, and have the stress whilst your pregnant or a new mum. He is an adult and needs to work on his own issues.

Congratulations on your pregnancy.

As, above, let him go. Someone so completely flaky is no asset and will only make you and your dcs unhappy.

Have the baby, get yourself on an even keel, and then don't be surprised when he comes back in 18 months, once he's stopped panicking.

GlenmoreSprings · 01/06/2025 15:48

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 15:39

Actions definitely speak louder than words. And agreeing to IVF then ending the marriage when it proves successful makes no sense at all. And if l were OP l think l’d be quite insulted at the allusions to ‘those poor children’ when in all likelihood she will strive to give them everything they need because they are wanted and loved. Unlike the shitbag who bailed on her because he clearly has someone else waiting for him in the wings.

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That shitbag is always going to be part of those children’s lives, and unfortunately, they’re going to be caught in the middle of it. He doesn’t want them and will make that painfully clear. Even if he cuts all ties with them today, the fact that he abandoned them will stay with them and impact them forever. Our parents shape who we become and leave a lasting mark on our adult lives. Having a child isn’t about chasing some idealised, happy life; it’s a serious, lifelong responsibility. As parents, we owe it to our children to choose a partner who is worthy of raising them. Children don’t ask to be born; the very least we can do is make sure they aren’t burdened with parents who fail them from the start.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 15:48

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 15:21

Er - have you actually read the OP’s posts ? Clearly not, or you wouldn’t have posted this.

He's a fool it's insulting to read what the op has to put with. You don't have to agree some men are spineless gits. He signed the paperwork for them to go through IVF and now hes running away. He has to work and provide for 3 people no wonder he's depressed. Although he signed the paperwork to have more children. Take the depression away it's all about money he tried to prolong the op having more children he clearly didn't want anymore. Now he resents her because he has to work harder and they already have money problems. Do you know how much milk is to buy in the shops they won't leave it on the shop shelves anymore because people are stealing them. He's left her financially vulnerable and I hope he pays.

When I had my babies there was no time for depression my partner had two jobs. We now have four children we both have our job that we work plus we run a business. Sometimes we feel depressed but I wouldn't change my life I love my family. This man is in his 40's? He's still running up and down he isn't settled in his head or life. Op deserves better. He wanted a care free life with the op and one child and he's having trouble tolerating his own daughter now. Rather go to a festival. I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheating and looking for an exit.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 15:52

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 15:33

So you think he participated in IVF not really thinking it would work, and that’s an acceptable reason for abandoning his wife and child now that he knows it did work and she’s pregnant ? When that’s the whole point of the process ? If that’s true, he’s not depressed, he’s a moron.

Yes, I believe he went through with the IVF knowing their chances would be slim. No where have I said this is acceptable and no other poster who has the same view as me has said it’s acceptable. You can believe something to be true and not believe it’s acceptable, they are two very different thoughts. Depression may have played a part in it too. You can still be depressed, make stupid cowardly decisions and yes he still be a moron, all three things can exist.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 15:55

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 15:35

I’ve crossed swords with this poster before on various threads - most posts display an astonishing lack of understanding of the issues and a tendency towards personal attack.

I did think the name seemed familiar. Bracing myself for the attack 👀

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 15:58

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 15:55

I did think the name seemed familiar. Bracing myself for the attack 👀

Who have I attacked?

Orangesinthebag · 01/06/2025 16:01

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 15:00

Men walk away from their responsibilities all the time, have a look at the hundreds of threads on MN at women posting about their husband leaving them and their kids or leaving when pregnant. It’s not uncommon.

The red flags were there and she chose to ignore them. Now he’s buggered off leaving her, her child and unborn baby. So, yeah massive red flag.

Some people will always blame the woman, no matter what.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 16:04

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 15:48

He's a fool it's insulting to read what the op has to put with. You don't have to agree some men are spineless gits. He signed the paperwork for them to go through IVF and now hes running away. He has to work and provide for 3 people no wonder he's depressed. Although he signed the paperwork to have more children. Take the depression away it's all about money he tried to prolong the op having more children he clearly didn't want anymore. Now he resents her because he has to work harder and they already have money problems. Do you know how much milk is to buy in the shops they won't leave it on the shop shelves anymore because people are stealing them. He's left her financially vulnerable and I hope he pays.

When I had my babies there was no time for depression my partner had two jobs. We now have four children we both have our job that we work plus we run a business. Sometimes we feel depressed but I wouldn't change my life I love my family. This man is in his 40's? He's still running up and down he isn't settled in his head or life. Op deserves better. He wanted a care free life with the op and one child and he's having trouble tolerating his own daughter now. Rather go to a festival. I wouldn't be surprised if he's cheating and looking for an exit.

Edited

You do realise it’s not the 1950s and both parents usually work, unless the mother is on ML don’t you?

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 16:12

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 15:58

Who have I attacked?

Me for a start. Your post was deleted yesterday.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 16:13

Orangesinthebag · 01/06/2025 16:01

Some people will always blame the woman, no matter what.

Some people will. But if you’re inferring to me, then you’re wrong. Not once I have blamed op for his actions. I have said he clearly didn’t want another child and he displayed red flag behaviour. Also said he was cowardly and that men do this all the time. Which he is and men do. He’s also had a history of depression, which is a serious mental health disorder, which a lot of people seemed to have ignored or said he was making it up… surely if he was depressed then he wasn’t in the right frame of mind to make such decisions? A person can still have depression and be an arsehole who makes terrible decisions.

Olive567 · 01/06/2025 16:17

He's not a good partner OP. I think you should rip off the sticky plaster now and get rid.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 16:47

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 16:04

You do realise it’s not the 1950s and both parents usually work, unless the mother is on ML don’t you?

The op has lost an income her husband wants to seperate. She needs to look at what support she is entitled to.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 16:48

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 16:12

Me for a start. Your post was deleted yesterday.

What thread was it? Don't think too hard about what I say I don't mean it.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 16:53

Orangesinthebag · 01/06/2025 16:01

Some people will always blame the woman, no matter what.

He did sign his name on the dotted line. The op didn't put a gun to his head.

User2025meow · 01/06/2025 16:59

Build your life without him. He has a weak character. Couldn’t bond initially with his child because she wanted you more? So he was making it about him and his feelings? It’s good your child has a sibling. Shame he changed his mind but that’s life. Now you create a good one with your two kids. Maybe he should get his depression treated before insisting on having his daughter visiting him. I’m so sick of these man babies who refuse therapy and try and make everyone else miserable.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 17:10

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 16:47

The op has lost an income her husband wants to seperate. She needs to look at what support she is entitled to.

And? No one is disagreeing with that. But pretty sure Op works too, so the financial load isn’t just on the husband is it?

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 17:22

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 17:10

And? No one is disagreeing with that. But pretty sure Op works too, so the financial load isn’t just on the husband is it?

I didn't say she didn't. She said she will struggle financially now.

From the op "Financially now it is such a worry and also the worry of being alone, losing my daughter for part of the week, moving house,"

He should pay for his children. He can't shirk his responsibilities.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 17:33

Rosscameasdoody · 01/06/2025 16:12

Me for a start. Your post was deleted yesterday.

The last time I conversed with you was 3 days ago. I was talking about group therapy. It was a suggestion I wasn't attacking you. I was trying to help the op.

MyLoyalEagle · 01/06/2025 17:42

I'm really sorry you are going though this OP.
Sending you a massive huge.
🩷🩷

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 17:58

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 17:22

I didn't say she didn't. She said she will struggle financially now.

From the op "Financially now it is such a worry and also the worry of being alone, losing my daughter for part of the week, moving house,"

He should pay for his children. He can't shirk his responsibilities.

Well you were saying some pretty made up comments in your first post about him resenting her now he has to work harder as there is three of them to support, so no wonder he’s depressed.. and he’s having trouble tolerating his own daughter now. The op never mentioned anything about him resenting her or not tolerating his own daughter. I suggest you read the posts in future and stop making up very weird comments.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 01/06/2025 18:17

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 17:58

Well you were saying some pretty made up comments in your first post about him resenting her now he has to work harder as there is three of them to support, so no wonder he’s depressed.. and he’s having trouble tolerating his own daughter now. The op never mentioned anything about him resenting her or not tolerating his own daughter. I suggest you read the posts in future and stop making up very weird comments.

He promised his daughter they would go camping as a family and instead he went to the festival. Then as soon as he gets back he wants to break up. She only just got pregnant and he's checked out. The poor op is worrying about money she hasn't mentioned CM. She needs to get that sorted asap.

I was taking the piss out of him I don't know any man that behaves like that. We're all depressed.

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