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Husband wants to leave me after finding out I'm pregnant with our second baby

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ThatDreamyDolphin · 01/06/2025 01:46

I am in a crisis. My husband of 8 years (together 11, known each other for 21) has instructed a trial separation. He has made it clear he wants a final separation at the moment with the way he's feeling. He fell into a depression while I was pregnant with our first daughter, now nearly 6. This was rooted in a job loss that left him unemployed for 2 months and then starting a new job when I was 8 months pregnant. His jobs felt insecure and we were worried about money. He then struggled to bond with our daughter because he said he felt redundant, that she only wanted me. Then when she was 6 months old lockdown hit and both of us were made redundant. His industry (travel sales) had no jobs at all. He ended up doing a course and we really struggled financially which took a toll on our relationship on top of sleep deprivation.

But after the year's course he found a good job again (as had I in the meantime after my maternity) and our jobs have felt so much better and more secure as time has gone on. Also he has a fantastic bond with our daughter now, since she's been about 1.5/2. I had always wanted two. He had always said "one or two". When our daughter reached about 2 and things felt better I started to talk about TTC. He kept saying "in 6 months" "at Christmas" "in the spring" "when our finances are a bit better". We talked a lot and he realised how much this meant to me and I tried to talk about ways we could support him. He was worried about getting depressed again. After about 2 years, he accepted that we start to try. We tried for over a year in total with a miscarriage in between. Then I suggested IVF as a last attempt. He signed all the paperwork and did his part. It worked. I found out 4 weeks ago that I am pregnant. I knew he would struggle a bit but his reaction has been frightening. It started off as cold and distant, totally refusing to talk. His anger towards me got worse and worse. A few days ago we were supposed to be going on a short camping trip with friends, but he asked to miss the first night to go to a festival to release what was in his head. He let out daughter down to do this as she had been promised a family camping trip. When he returned, he was as cold as ice. He told me we are done and it's over. Really really angry at me. I tried to plead with him to work through this together, that I didn't realise his depression would come back in such force. I thought having therapy and support would be enough and these things had already been lined up to be ready. I know we should have had some more honest conversations in the past, but I now feel so hopeless and vulnerable that I'm now pregnant and he's leaving. Financially now it is such a worry and also the worry of being alone, losing my daughter for part of the week, moving house, and just heart broken as I really love him. He refuses to go to any counselling which I feel is so awful considering we've a lot to lose. I'm not sure what to do. He is blaming me for his depression, his problems, our relationship problems, and I have internalised this at times. But I don't believe at the core the depression is to do with me. It was never dealt with it was just ignored, despite me always trying to get him to talk to people and to get counselling in the past. He is an avoidant type. I feel so powerless to stop him from making such a huge decision when he's in this place and I'm finding it all really hard. He's totally shut off from me and it really hurts as well as all the practical worries and our daughter.

I'm not sure what to make of this situation.

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Kettlemetal · 01/06/2025 08:28

That Sounds very hard and painful OP.

Also suspiciously like he might have met someone else.

I don’t think you would trust him now even if he stayed and walking on eggshells around him when you have the baby would be hellish. You won’t ever know if a bad mood is just that or him about to pack and go.

Gather your friends and family and get therapy yourself and make plans for you and your children. Get your finances in order asap.

RedRock41 · 01/06/2025 08:29

StMarie4me · 01/06/2025 07:50

Why should OP have had to evaluate that he didn’t want another child from the vague things he said?
I know plenty of people who have talked it through, as grown ups, and the decision agreed. Could he not speak? According to many of you she was meant to take full responsibility for decisions made and now he’s behaving like a real POS that’s her fault too! And I’ll bet you claim to be feminists!

OP, he is a weak pathetic man. He is selfish. He was jealous of your first child and does not prioritise her needs. You will be better off without him. Take control and move forward.

MumsNet Bingo check ✔️…Always one to come along who tries to berate most posters in haughty way by implying meaning in other posts that isn’t there. No one blaming OP just calling the situation as it is.

YesHonestly · 01/06/2025 08:29

What a disgusting man he is.

Has he been to the doctors for help? Did he get support in place before you conceived to help prevent becoming “depressed” again? Of course not. Because this is not depression.

I couldn’t forgive this. He’s got you tied up in knots, sick with anxiety and for what? Because you are pregnant with a baby he actively engaged in conceiving. How dare he treat you and your daughter this way?

Take back control. Tell him to leave. Speak to a solicitor as soon as you possibly can. Tell your family so you have support around you. Start building a life for yourself and your children that I KNOW will be happier than your life with this nasty prick.

You can do this OP x

HangingOver · 01/06/2025 08:29

What a sad situation.

I have friends who went through something a bit like this. Met later in life, they were madly in love and she desperately wanted a baby. He's a total people pleaser and was crazy about her. Strong family pressure from DGP for DC.

DC1 arrived and their relationship tanked. She was hell bent on another. He went along with it. They now have two kids, still live together but basically hate eachother. I've even heard through friends she's badgering for a third.

The whole thing is completely insane. He never ever should have agreed to it if he wasn't sure it was what he wanted and going through with a second was complete madness on both their parts.

I think the problem is going ahead with a second baby when you know deep down it's not what he wants will always be interpreted by him that your desire for a baby trumps his feelings.

He's idiotically gone along with this and is now staring down the barrel of a life he doesn't want and it's terrifying him and his taking it out on you. What an idiot.

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 01/06/2025 08:37

You clearly want the baby and that seems non negotiable.

I think you need to tell him, “I’m doing this with or without you.”

Garner your resources and your support network and don’t let him fly in and out at will. You need to put your hard hat on. It takes two to make a baby and he has very much played his part here.

If he sees the 6 year old, he sees the baby as well. That needs to be factored into the separation agreement from the beginning.

ByDreamyNavyDreamer · 01/06/2025 08:38

I agree with the posters saying he’s having an affair.

ThisHeartySloth · 01/06/2025 08:42

Did he know and agree to this particular try of ivf? Or did he agree and do his part some time ago?

merrymelody · 01/06/2025 08:45

I think you’re well rid of him, tbh. How cruel and selfish can anyone be?

PinkyFlamingo · 01/06/2025 08:49

He's not depressed, just another selfish arse whose likely cheating.

Jacarandill · 01/06/2025 08:54

justmeandmyselfandi · 01/06/2025 04:16

This is a really sad situation. My assumption would be he was hoping the IVF would fail and now he's scared it hasn't. I can't blame him for not wanting a baby based on what happened last time and I'm not sure it was fair to pressure him into that.

I tend to agree.

He’s clearly very, very unhappy and this pregnancy has possibly brought back trauma from what was a very difficult time for him.

I think you need to be honest: How much pressure did you put on him to do this? He clearly wanted to make you happy and has now realised he can’t do it.

I feel for you both but although he signed everything and went along with it, I think you’ve put your own wants above his.

dudsville · 01/06/2025 08:55

I think you both struggle to really communicate with each other. You expressed your hopes, and sifted through all his behaviour and responses for the silver lining. He really comes across as not wanting this second child. He, in turn needed to pull his head out of the sand and not continue with the making of a new baby.

Jacarandill · 01/06/2025 08:56

HangingOver · 01/06/2025 08:29

What a sad situation.

I have friends who went through something a bit like this. Met later in life, they were madly in love and she desperately wanted a baby. He's a total people pleaser and was crazy about her. Strong family pressure from DGP for DC.

DC1 arrived and their relationship tanked. She was hell bent on another. He went along with it. They now have two kids, still live together but basically hate eachother. I've even heard through friends she's badgering for a third.

The whole thing is completely insane. He never ever should have agreed to it if he wasn't sure it was what he wanted and going through with a second was complete madness on both their parts.

I think the problem is going ahead with a second baby when you know deep down it's not what he wants will always be interpreted by him that your desire for a baby trumps his feelings.

He's idiotically gone along with this and is now staring down the barrel of a life he doesn't want and it's terrifying him and his taking it out on you. What an idiot.

I think ‘idiot’ is a bit harsh. He didn’t want to lose her or hurt her and has probably hoped he could get on board with it, but he’s now realised he can’t.

He’s also clearly depressed.

Jacarandill · 01/06/2025 08:57

YesHonestly · 01/06/2025 08:29

What a disgusting man he is.

Has he been to the doctors for help? Did he get support in place before you conceived to help prevent becoming “depressed” again? Of course not. Because this is not depression.

I couldn’t forgive this. He’s got you tied up in knots, sick with anxiety and for what? Because you are pregnant with a baby he actively engaged in conceiving. How dare he treat you and your daughter this way?

Take back control. Tell him to leave. Speak to a solicitor as soon as you possibly can. Tell your family so you have support around you. Start building a life for yourself and your children that I KNOW will be happier than your life with this nasty prick.

You can do this OP x

wtf is wrong with you??

Orangesinthebag · 01/06/2025 08:57

HangingOver · 01/06/2025 08:29

What a sad situation.

I have friends who went through something a bit like this. Met later in life, they were madly in love and she desperately wanted a baby. He's a total people pleaser and was crazy about her. Strong family pressure from DGP for DC.

DC1 arrived and their relationship tanked. She was hell bent on another. He went along with it. They now have two kids, still live together but basically hate eachother. I've even heard through friends she's badgering for a third.

The whole thing is completely insane. He never ever should have agreed to it if he wasn't sure it was what he wanted and going through with a second was complete madness on both their parts.

I think the problem is going ahead with a second baby when you know deep down it's not what he wants will always be interpreted by him that your desire for a baby trumps his feelings.

He's idiotically gone along with this and is now staring down the barrel of a life he doesn't want and it's terrifying him and his taking it out on you. What an idiot.

And the problem is that within all this "I want" / "You want" are the actual children.

If you don't want children say that, don't "go along" with anything because it's new lives that are being created

Tandora · 01/06/2025 08:58

Yeh it was so obvious he didn’t want to have another child that he TTC for several years, tried again after a miscarriage and participated in IVF 🙄.

Mumsnet at its worst on this thread.

OP I am SO sorry, your DH is a bastard. I agree with others there may well be more going on here like another woman. Either way, do not beg- it won’t help. You need to focus on building yourself up. Just take one step at a time and deal with the here and now. Congratulations on your pregnancy ❤️

JollyGreenSleeves · 01/06/2025 08:59

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 01/06/2025 06:43

Male point of view here ( Iknow I know!)
I met a lovely lady, we got on very well, moved in very quickly and even combined business' etc - we were on top of each other like rabbits - every mans dream lol(!) - I thought we adored each other - and we decided within 6months she should stop taking the pill - she'd been taking it for 15years so there was a chance it could take a while for her to conceive - anyway - 6weeks later she fell pregnant - sex stopped immediately - and no cuddling - nothing.

Son was born, and still I wasnt allowed near her and about a year later she came onto me and we had sex once and she fell pregnant with our second son. I was angry, upset, felt used and resented my 2nd son until he was about 2yo which I am ashamed of now.

We split up a year or so later (she cheated on me) I came home to find our 4 bed 4 bath house had been emptied and she was leaving with the last van. She told her friends and parents that I was abusive and wouldn't tell me where was going to live 'as her solicitor had told her not to'. Three months later I met her and the kids at her parents house and the kids jumped up at me almost knocking me over (and I can cry thinking of that moment) and wouldn't let me put them down - they were like limpets - this is the father who was abusive etc - her parents saw this and realised it was nonsense, ANYWAY - I was used just to provide kids - and I resented no.2 and I hate admitting it now - which of course I don't in real life - and my boys are my absolute life now and I even get on with their mother better than we ever did when we were together - but men are definitely used even though its not often portrayed on here. 'Kids' are now 19 and 17yo. and love of my life

You do know this thread isn’t about you don’t you?

Tandora · 01/06/2025 09:00

Jacarandill · 01/06/2025 08:57

wtf is wrong with you??

eh??

Tandora · 01/06/2025 09:00

JollyGreenSleeves · 01/06/2025 08:59

You do know this thread isn’t about you don’t you?

I really don’t think he does

EleanorReally · 01/06/2025 09:01

i think i would let him go
he brings you down

ChickalettasGiblets · 01/06/2025 09:02

What an arsehole he is OP, I’m really sorry this has happened to you.

So instead of being a grownup and using his words to admit he didn’t want another baby, he’s strung you along and is now going to buggar off and leave you with two young children and blame all his problems on you.

Im afraid I couldn’t forgive that, he’s a selfish twat depressed or not.

Lighteningstrikes · 01/06/2025 09:06

Don’t chase a dog because it will keep on running.

Personally I think you’ll find if he doesn’t come back, you’ll be far better off without him.

I hope you took your DD camping. What a horrible selfish man to do that to a child.

Alwaysinamood · 01/06/2025 09:09

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 01/06/2025 03:51

Do you think he could have met someone else OP? I don’t know why but it sounds a lot like “the script” to me.

Suddenly cold and distant, blames you for all the problems.

Attends a random event at short notice.

letting your DD down when he’s usually a good dad…

It’s got lots of the signs unfortunately.

I would tell him to go then, and you seek legal advice immediately.

I’m thinking the same thing

TiredCatLady · 01/06/2025 09:11

Another vote for this being “The Script”.

Went off to a festival randomly to clear his head did he? Cold and distant?

It’s a trial separation at the moment because he’s still working out what is happening with OW and wants to be sure he’s still got a backup.

Let him go, prick that he is.

FannyCann · 01/06/2025 09:19

eustoitnow · 01/06/2025 06:00

Sadly I went through something very similar. After multiple losses and 5 rounds of IVF it finally worked. Pregnant with twins and husband of over 10 years (together 20) changed overnight….he walked out one day when they were newborns and that was it. Said he never expected IVF to work and wasn’t what he wanted.

My advice….let him go. He will only drag you and your children down. You are far far stronger than you can ever know and you can do this without him

That's so horrible because it means not only that he was secretly hoping the IVF wouldn't work all while you were going through everything it involved but he must have been secretly pleased every time you had a miscarriage. To actually be happy about all the distressing things that you went through. What a snake.

So sorry for you going through that. And also OP with her situation.

ChiliFiend · 01/06/2025 09:19

Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:08

Oh God. Why does it always come to this with some of you ?!? The post clearly states he’s depressed ! Good gracious Lord!

The timeline with him going away for a night on his own to a festival and then coming back and saying it's over is quite obviously suspicious, regardless of whether he's depressed about the pregnancy.