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Husband wants to leave me after finding out I'm pregnant with our second baby

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ThatDreamyDolphin · 01/06/2025 01:46

I am in a crisis. My husband of 8 years (together 11, known each other for 21) has instructed a trial separation. He has made it clear he wants a final separation at the moment with the way he's feeling. He fell into a depression while I was pregnant with our first daughter, now nearly 6. This was rooted in a job loss that left him unemployed for 2 months and then starting a new job when I was 8 months pregnant. His jobs felt insecure and we were worried about money. He then struggled to bond with our daughter because he said he felt redundant, that she only wanted me. Then when she was 6 months old lockdown hit and both of us were made redundant. His industry (travel sales) had no jobs at all. He ended up doing a course and we really struggled financially which took a toll on our relationship on top of sleep deprivation.

But after the year's course he found a good job again (as had I in the meantime after my maternity) and our jobs have felt so much better and more secure as time has gone on. Also he has a fantastic bond with our daughter now, since she's been about 1.5/2. I had always wanted two. He had always said "one or two". When our daughter reached about 2 and things felt better I started to talk about TTC. He kept saying "in 6 months" "at Christmas" "in the spring" "when our finances are a bit better". We talked a lot and he realised how much this meant to me and I tried to talk about ways we could support him. He was worried about getting depressed again. After about 2 years, he accepted that we start to try. We tried for over a year in total with a miscarriage in between. Then I suggested IVF as a last attempt. He signed all the paperwork and did his part. It worked. I found out 4 weeks ago that I am pregnant. I knew he would struggle a bit but his reaction has been frightening. It started off as cold and distant, totally refusing to talk. His anger towards me got worse and worse. A few days ago we were supposed to be going on a short camping trip with friends, but he asked to miss the first night to go to a festival to release what was in his head. He let out daughter down to do this as she had been promised a family camping trip. When he returned, he was as cold as ice. He told me we are done and it's over. Really really angry at me. I tried to plead with him to work through this together, that I didn't realise his depression would come back in such force. I thought having therapy and support would be enough and these things had already been lined up to be ready. I know we should have had some more honest conversations in the past, but I now feel so hopeless and vulnerable that I'm now pregnant and he's leaving. Financially now it is such a worry and also the worry of being alone, losing my daughter for part of the week, moving house, and just heart broken as I really love him. He refuses to go to any counselling which I feel is so awful considering we've a lot to lose. I'm not sure what to do. He is blaming me for his depression, his problems, our relationship problems, and I have internalised this at times. But I don't believe at the core the depression is to do with me. It was never dealt with it was just ignored, despite me always trying to get him to talk to people and to get counselling in the past. He is an avoidant type. I feel so powerless to stop him from making such a huge decision when he's in this place and I'm finding it all really hard. He's totally shut off from me and it really hurts as well as all the practical worries and our daughter.

I'm not sure what to make of this situation.

OP posts:
Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:08

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 01/06/2025 03:51

Do you think he could have met someone else OP? I don’t know why but it sounds a lot like “the script” to me.

Suddenly cold and distant, blames you for all the problems.

Attends a random event at short notice.

letting your DD down when he’s usually a good dad…

It’s got lots of the signs unfortunately.

I would tell him to go then, and you seek legal advice immediately.

Oh God. Why does it always come to this with some of you ?!? The post clearly states he’s depressed ! Good gracious Lord!

Mothership4two · 01/06/2025 06:15

Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:08

Oh God. Why does it always come to this with some of you ?!? The post clearly states he’s depressed ! Good gracious Lord!

And several posters have said his reactions don't sound like someone who is currently depressed or coming from a place of depression.

Not sure why you are being snitty @Here4thechocs? This is a forum for opinions and OP must want them to post here

Toddlerteaplease · 01/06/2025 06:18

Depression is no excuse for behaving like an absolute arsehole!

MixedBananas · 01/06/2025 06:20

People tell us who they are. Wr just have to listen. So sorry OP. If he is set on it there is nothing you can do.
It is to late for shoulda, woulda, couldas. He said how things were if you wnates more children it is obvious you would need to find a more willing and happy partner.

Figcherry · 01/06/2025 06:21

Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:08

Oh God. Why does it always come to this with some of you ?!? The post clearly states he’s depressed ! Good gracious Lord!

My df claimed he was depressed, he even got medication from the gp.
All the time he had another woman.
When men are choosing which way to jump they often claim depression.

MondayYogurt · 01/06/2025 06:21

That’s some weird ‘depression’.

Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:22

Mothership4two · 01/06/2025 06:15

And several posters have said his reactions don't sound like someone who is currently depressed or coming from a place of depression.

Not sure why you are being snitty @Here4thechocs? This is a forum for opinions and OP must want them to post here

Edited

I’m not intentionally being snotty. I just do not think it helps to have OP think something else might be going on with her marriage, seeing as the initial cause of her DH’s depression is what’s probably pushing him into it again, for the second time. Dealing with the thoughts of the possibilities of an affair, albeit unfounded , added to a husband possibly spiralling into a depressive state is rather much for one human to deal with, you’d agree.

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 01/06/2025 06:24

spoonbillstretford · 01/06/2025 03:38

I suggest you read it again.

Likewise - he plainly didn't want another child and felt forced into it,

FreddysFingers · 01/06/2025 06:25

SapporoBaby · 01/06/2025 03:20

His behaviour is disgusting. This wasn’t an accident… you had IVF with his full consent. He should be ashamed to treat you so evilly.

Yes, he has behaved abhorrebtly, and there's no excuse for that, but OP must have realised he didn't want another child when he kept putting it off.

It was good that they had a discussion about a second child, but I can't see where he's expressed a desire for it; it's all based on OP's longing for another one, and then she talks about ways to 'support him' which feels like OP made the decision, a man that was on board with having a bigger family would be happy and excited, but the conversation they had revolved around supporting him because he was depressed- it doesn't feel like a 2 way decision, so no wonder his depression has come back. He probably felt out of control, and as if he had no choice in the matter.

He is worrying about the financial impact, this second child will put a strain on the marriage - and I believe this is why he's behaving the way he is. It sounds as if he resents OP which is why he wants the seperation.

I think they need to work it through with a marriage counsellor and take it from there.

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 01/06/2025 06:25

Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:22

I’m not intentionally being snotty. I just do not think it helps to have OP think something else might be going on with her marriage, seeing as the initial cause of her DH’s depression is what’s probably pushing him into it again, for the second time. Dealing with the thoughts of the possibilities of an affair, albeit unfounded , added to a husband possibly spiralling into a depressive state is rather much for one human to deal with, you’d agree.

Exactly - when he was depressed with the first child he had no-one else - so why should be now?

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 01/06/2025 06:30

eustoitnow · 01/06/2025 06:00

Sadly I went through something very similar. After multiple losses and 5 rounds of IVF it finally worked. Pregnant with twins and husband of over 10 years (together 20) changed overnight….he walked out one day when they were newborns and that was it. Said he never expected IVF to work and wasn’t what he wanted.

My advice….let him go. He will only drag you and your children down. You are far far stronger than you can ever know and you can do this without him

Sorry to hear that - hope its all worked out OK. x

Horserider5678 · 01/06/2025 06:35

OneForTheRoadThen · 01/06/2025 05:43

It’s mine too @justmeandmyselfandi but evidently we’re wrong 🤣. He sounds like a man who never wanted another child but was too spineless to say so.

I agree! I suspect given the fact that IVF only has a 26% success rate he was hoping it would fail. I do think OP needs to take some responsibility too as she was very keen on a second child when he clearly wasn’t. But with number the men are always in the wrong 🤣

MintChocCat · 01/06/2025 06:36

I don’t condone his behaviour, but he clearly sounds like a man who is very much struggling, and was somewhat pressured into another child.
Anger and coldness is very much symptomatic of depression (and anxiety actually). I am a mental health professional. It does sound like he needs support. What support does he have around him, OP? And do you have a support network too?

stayathomer · 01/06/2025 06:37

i know it feels like your world is crashing down now but if you reread what you’ve gone through op, you’re only happy together when things are rosy. I know that sounds simplistic but from someone who’s got marriage issues that are a mixture of him seeming to be depressed and not knowing if he loves me, I’ll say why would you want to continue with someone who doesn’t want to face things WITH you. As in, things are going rough, but we’re a team. You wanted a second child, and here they are, and they’ll need you. You’re just going to have a different family to what you suspected x Giant giant hugs op, don’t try to make him be happy- a year in, I’ll tell you it just sucks the everything out of you x

Horserider5678 · 01/06/2025 06:37

FreddysFingers · 01/06/2025 06:25

Yes, he has behaved abhorrebtly, and there's no excuse for that, but OP must have realised he didn't want another child when he kept putting it off.

It was good that they had a discussion about a second child, but I can't see where he's expressed a desire for it; it's all based on OP's longing for another one, and then she talks about ways to 'support him' which feels like OP made the decision, a man that was on board with having a bigger family would be happy and excited, but the conversation they had revolved around supporting him because he was depressed- it doesn't feel like a 2 way decision, so no wonder his depression has come back. He probably felt out of control, and as if he had no choice in the matter.

He is worrying about the financial impact, this second child will put a strain on the marriage - and I believe this is why he's behaving the way he is. It sounds as if he resents OP which is why he wants the seperation.

I think they need to work it through with a marriage counsellor and take it from there.

This!

amylou8 · 01/06/2025 06:37

Tell him the trial separation is permanent. I couldn't come back from someone treating me in such callous way. What an absolute selfish prick. I'm fuming in your behalf.

Imcomingovertoyourplace · 01/06/2025 06:38

I’m sorry but no part of your OP suggests that he wanted another child. Surely you can see that, OP? Did he express any excitement, hopes, dreams for the future with two children?

He definitely did not expect this. Of course he’s wrong to have not refused to sign the IVF stuff, but I think you have to take some responsibility for, at best, overlooking the obvious.

SuperTrooper14 · 01/06/2025 06:39

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 01/06/2025 03:51

Do you think he could have met someone else OP? I don’t know why but it sounds a lot like “the script” to me.

Suddenly cold and distant, blames you for all the problems.

Attends a random event at short notice.

letting your DD down when he’s usually a good dad…

It’s got lots of the signs unfortunately.

I would tell him to go then, and you seek legal advice immediately.

This. ^

Sorry, but something about him shooting off to the festival feels sketchy. Who did he go with?

Mothership4two · 01/06/2025 06:42

A year of trying to get pregnant, three pregnancies and however long IVF took and then he acts cold, angry and dumps his pregnant wife - yes I do think this man is completely in the wrong...

...and doesn't sound depressed

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 01/06/2025 06:43

Male point of view here ( Iknow I know!)
I met a lovely lady, we got on very well, moved in very quickly and even combined business' etc - we were on top of each other like rabbits - every mans dream lol(!) - I thought we adored each other - and we decided within 6months she should stop taking the pill - she'd been taking it for 15years so there was a chance it could take a while for her to conceive - anyway - 6weeks later she fell pregnant - sex stopped immediately - and no cuddling - nothing.

Son was born, and still I wasnt allowed near her and about a year later she came onto me and we had sex once and she fell pregnant with our second son. I was angry, upset, felt used and resented my 2nd son until he was about 2yo which I am ashamed of now.

We split up a year or so later (she cheated on me) I came home to find our 4 bed 4 bath house had been emptied and she was leaving with the last van. She told her friends and parents that I was abusive and wouldn't tell me where was going to live 'as her solicitor had told her not to'. Three months later I met her and the kids at her parents house and the kids jumped up at me almost knocking me over (and I can cry thinking of that moment) and wouldn't let me put them down - they were like limpets - this is the father who was abusive etc - her parents saw this and realised it was nonsense, ANYWAY - I was used just to provide kids - and I resented no.2 and I hate admitting it now - which of course I don't in real life - and my boys are my absolute life now and I even get on with their mother better than we ever did when we were together - but men are definitely used even though its not often portrayed on here. 'Kids' are now 19 and 17yo. and love of my life

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 01/06/2025 06:44

Here4thechocs · 01/06/2025 06:08

Oh God. Why does it always come to this with some of you ?!? The post clearly states he’s depressed ! Good gracious Lord!

Because I’ve seen it play out so many times? Man has family. Feels trapped and depressed, blames woman, they break up and suddenly someone else is on the scene. Not saying men don’t get depressed but this post just gave me some flags similar to other examples where there was another woman.

Emerald95 · 01/06/2025 06:46

What kind of pos leaves his pregnant wife after IVF? He can hardly say this was an accidental pregnancy. OP I really hope after some time to digest this he realises how badly he has massed up.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 01/06/2025 06:46

NoBiscuitsLeftInMyTin · 01/06/2025 06:43

Male point of view here ( Iknow I know!)
I met a lovely lady, we got on very well, moved in very quickly and even combined business' etc - we were on top of each other like rabbits - every mans dream lol(!) - I thought we adored each other - and we decided within 6months she should stop taking the pill - she'd been taking it for 15years so there was a chance it could take a while for her to conceive - anyway - 6weeks later she fell pregnant - sex stopped immediately - and no cuddling - nothing.

Son was born, and still I wasnt allowed near her and about a year later she came onto me and we had sex once and she fell pregnant with our second son. I was angry, upset, felt used and resented my 2nd son until he was about 2yo which I am ashamed of now.

We split up a year or so later (she cheated on me) I came home to find our 4 bed 4 bath house had been emptied and she was leaving with the last van. She told her friends and parents that I was abusive and wouldn't tell me where was going to live 'as her solicitor had told her not to'. Three months later I met her and the kids at her parents house and the kids jumped up at me almost knocking me over (and I can cry thinking of that moment) and wouldn't let me put them down - they were like limpets - this is the father who was abusive etc - her parents saw this and realised it was nonsense, ANYWAY - I was used just to provide kids - and I resented no.2 and I hate admitting it now - which of course I don't in real life - and my boys are my absolute life now and I even get on with their mother better than we ever did when we were together - but men are definitely used even though its not often portrayed on here. 'Kids' are now 19 and 17yo. and love of my life

I have no words. Your denial of any wrongdoing on your part is outstanding. Hats off.

WarriorN · 01/06/2025 06:49

stayathomer · 01/06/2025 06:37

i know it feels like your world is crashing down now but if you reread what you’ve gone through op, you’re only happy together when things are rosy. I know that sounds simplistic but from someone who’s got marriage issues that are a mixture of him seeming to be depressed and not knowing if he loves me, I’ll say why would you want to continue with someone who doesn’t want to face things WITH you. As in, things are going rough, but we’re a team. You wanted a second child, and here they are, and they’ll need you. You’re just going to have a different family to what you suspected x Giant giant hugs op, don’t try to make him be happy- a year in, I’ll tell you it just sucks the everything out of you x

I fully agree. If he’s scared he could turn to you and be honest and open.

Reacting with anger, being cold and distant is a red flag. He did agree to a second child even if deep down he didn’t and it’s not fair to react like this.

However previous behaviour, even if it was depression, indicates an inability to have resilience in the face of life’s set backs. We all have this and yes it’s very stressful and can cause arguments etc. but this seems more.

if he thinks that he will get depressed after this baby then he should put the right medical and counselling steps into place. The anger is different. Blaming you for his feelings and reactions is abusive.

he’s also not thinking of his daughter at all. That she may want a sibling and how great that will be for her.

understanding this helps you to draw your own boundaries with this man. And feel less reliant on him.

id not trust someone like this and id want out to be honest!

do you have family you can talk to? Be supported by?

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/06/2025 06:50

mathanxiety · 01/06/2025 05:24

Call his bluff.

Tell him to pack his bags.

Then see a solicitor.

Absolutely this. Time to take control of your life. The wellbeing of your daughter and sibling are paramount as you move forward. Do you have supportive family and friends around you?

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