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Why are people long term single?

204 replies

loveyoutothemoon · 08/05/2025 19:38

So people that want a relationship and are single more often than not, is it more because they're difficult to get along with, insecure etc? Or could it be more down to luck?
I suppose I'm looking for personal experiences really.
For me it's fussiness and impatience and insecurity, which I'm having counselling for.

OP posts:
SirRaymondClench · 09/05/2025 07:05

My brother has been single for over 10 years now. He was cheated on by both his long term girlfriends and that made him very cautious to begin with.

And now he has been on his own so long that I worry he has become too entrenched to be in a relationship.
Being in a relationship is about give and take and he's become too set in his ways. He had cancer 8 years ago and that knocked out several years where he could have met someone. He is also very shy.
It breaks my heart because he's good looking, has his own house, works, and I know he wants to meet someone and he wanted kids but just hasn't met anyone. His friends met people, got married and had kids so were at a different stage of life to him.
In this swipe left/right culture he doesn't stand a chance because he's just not that sort of man who would do tinder etc. He's mid 40s now so where do people go to actually meet people?

blubbyblub · 09/05/2025 07:15

vast majority of posters seem so keen to launch into a tirade against mostly men that they failed to read the first sentence of the OP 🤦🏻‍♀️

FagsMagsandBags · 09/05/2025 07:42

I spent my twenties, thirties and some of my forties in and out of short and longer term relationships without feeling like anyone was "the one" although there was a guy in my30s/40s who I really thought was it but it didn't work out and fucked me up for a better relationship for a long time. He sort of hung on in my life in the weirdest way and it's only been sorted very recently. How so? I was stuck for cash for a new phone deal so he gave me £12 a month which was supposed to be for a short while. Fast forward well over a decade, with me asking on a less and less regular basis for him to stop the standing order whatever and him just ignoring it. Out of the blue, for reasons of momentary insanity I thought it would be nice to hear his voice, so called his number for the first time in over five years? And he surprised me by answering the phone. Awkward because I had nothing to say to him, but also something big. Annoyingly something had changed my voice a lot so I could have pretended to be a wrong number, but my head was foggy. He was odd and I heard a partner in the background asking if I was some drunk ex. At about 8pm on a Sunday evening with the sound of Antique's Roadshow, er no. I was just some woman he used to know ... all of this was actually good because I was a tad annoyed. Got off the phone, apologised for bothering him. Texted him, please for the love of god stop the £12 payments, it feels like some covertly useless stalking nonsense. Btw, I'm seriously ill, so stop it now or you'll find out when I'm actually dead which I think might be a bit much to hear about some woman you used to know. Hallelujah, the payments stopped. All it took was the threat of death.

Anyway, and there I'd been wasting years with him, thinking about him being £12 a month "stalked" by him.

Since then I did have a lovely fwb with a thorougly decent man, a couple of goes around and been single for just over a decade and I love it. I could never live with someone again. I would be difficult because on and off through life I've lived alone. I love my own company. I love socialising but need a day or two to decompress if I do too much socialising, i.e. three or four evenings/days in a row. My libido went on holiday a few years ago and hasn't come home yet. We don't miss each other, but I have realised that I think that life would have been different if I'd realised that I definitely like women more than men but if I'd opened myself up more to relationships with women rather than being a slave to the cock which is often just no use whatsoever. Also if I'd not been fixated on intercourse as the be all and end all and not having sex as abnormal. So, I think I'll die an asexual lesbian and I've told someone I've only met recently that I have a crush on her, but it's pretty asexual and I'm pretty sure I could fall in love with her. It's reciprocated in the manner in which it's given. Sexless but intimate, real and tender.

So, that's my experience!

LeftieRightsHoarder · 09/05/2025 08:37

SchrodingersTwat2 · 08/05/2025 20:04

Lone parent of 2, one with SEND and not in education at all for up to 2.5 years at a stretch.

Zero childcare and no money to buy any in.

I literally couldn't go anywhere. I didn't go out after 3.30pm (apart from with my children) for 7 years.

That must have been hard. I hope life is better for you now xx

Dweetfidilove · 09/05/2025 08:41

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 08/05/2025 22:25

I also have a very comfortable arrangement that sorts out the physical needs

I'd try for one of those if there was a guarantee that he'd actually meet my needs.

No guarantees unfortunately, as from what I've heard, men are only interested in their satisfaction. Thankfully my tried and tested is still available. Don't know what I'll do when it comes to an end.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 09/05/2025 08:41

I've told someone I've only met recently that I have a crush on her, but it's pretty asexual and I'm pretty sure I could fall in love with her. It's reciprocated in the manner in which it's given. Sexless but intimate, real and tender.

I’m glad you’re having this good experience now, FagsMags. It’s never too late.

LaurelAvenue · 09/05/2025 08:44

@CreationNat1on "Many men are entitled, immature and selfish partners, not all."

This

S0j0urn4r · 09/05/2025 08:54

You've only got to read some of the posts on here to see why people might prefer to be single.

SelinaPlace · 09/05/2025 08:54

Disturbia81 · 08/05/2025 22:39

I just don’t see that in real life, and I’m all over the place in cities and towns.. people are with others their own age. How many 50 and 60 year old men would be able to attract a woman in her 20s/30s!? and why would they want to. I see it in the celeb world and I’ve heard of sugardaddies but that’s it

A close friend of mine got divorced about two years ago, He’s 50, but his friends were continually introducing him to/setting him up with women under 35 — he’s well off, director of a firm in a ‘prestige’ profession, extremely physically fit, dresses well, and has kept his hair. That seemed to offset his age.

Whereas if I suddenly became single at 52, no one would be throwing 30 year old men my way as though it were natural.

mummypigoink · 09/05/2025 08:58

I’m too fat, too unattractive, too boring and not successful enough for anyone to be interested in me.

if I was slim, pretty, witty and wealthy, I’m sure there would be someone for me.

Sdpbody · 09/05/2025 09:20

I so wish I was single. My DH is just getting worse and worse. I know the vows are for better or for worse, but I hate him.

Disturbia81 · 09/05/2025 09:24

SelinaPlace · 09/05/2025 08:54

A close friend of mine got divorced about two years ago, He’s 50, but his friends were continually introducing him to/setting him up with women under 35 — he’s well off, director of a firm in a ‘prestige’ profession, extremely physically fit, dresses well, and has kept his hair. That seemed to offset his age.

Whereas if I suddenly became single at 52, no one would be throwing 30 year old men my way as though it were natural.

Ah but that’s someone very wealthy. There are golddigger women about who will look past the age for money. Same if it was a wealthy woman, there’d be young cocklodgers if she wanted them.
Those aren’t usual relationships

Discombobble · 09/05/2025 09:31

loveyoutothemoon · 08/05/2025 19:38

So people that want a relationship and are single more often than not, is it more because they're difficult to get along with, insecure etc? Or could it be more down to luck?
I suppose I'm looking for personal experiences really.
For me it's fussiness and impatience and insecurity, which I'm having counselling for.

Because the alternative is not nearly so attractive as living in my own house with my cats and suiting myself

LaurelAvenue · 09/05/2025 09:40

Discombobble · 09/05/2025 09:31

Because the alternative is not nearly so attractive as living in my own house with my cats and suiting myself

Hear! Hear !

LaurelAvenue · 09/05/2025 09:52

Sdpbody · 09/05/2025 09:20

I so wish I was single. My DH is just getting worse and worse. I know the vows are for better or for worse, but I hate him.

When I was younger an older lady told me-

"Marriage is like a field with a fence around it. Everyone on the outside is trying to get in and everyone on the inside is trying to get out"

I thought it made sense at the time.

Now I'm not so sure.

Guinessandafire · 09/05/2025 10:12

I'm not single, love my partner but I wouldn't say it's better than being single, just different.

If your not interested having kids for whatever reason ( already had them, not interested in general) then that's a huge reason to be in a relationship gone for one, and obvioulsy you can have children as a lone parent anyway.

Also, I don't think it's a relationship a lot of single people want in my experience, and I was single for a long time. It's validation, knowing that you are desirable , knowing that you could if you wanted to.

Sex is reasonably easy to come by with all the OLD sharks out there, so if that's your main concern there are ways and means.

The single people I know now are just not bothered about a relationship..they know they could get into one if they wanted , but they are neither lonely or feel alone, so have the best of both worlds.

You would be hard pressed to find anyone in a LTR that doesn't fantasise regularly about being single and living on their own. In the real world at any stage; I know mumsnet is full of ' Me and my Nigel hate being apart' types.

Augustus40 · 09/05/2025 10:15

To those who question single status has it never occurred to you that people may actually prefer being single?

Sorry to break it to you that relationships aren't everyone's cup of tea!?

Why are there societal norms that demand we must all waltz around in twos?

Is it so off the wall to not expect cross section in today's world?

People have choice these days. It isn't the 1950s anymore!!

Lundier · 09/05/2025 10:35

Well, the OP didn't ask why is anyone single. She asked about "people that want a relationship and are single more often than not" and included herself in this group.

I reflected that I would like a relationship, but not really enough to put up with the relationships that are on offer, as I think a lot of people did too.

I don't think many people on this thread are saying it's weird to be single. ~40% of UK adults are single, so this would truly be an outlandish claim.

Rotora · 09/05/2025 10:42

I’m in my 50, adult kids, grandchild, friends, hobbies and a nice life.

I prefer to be single and am not that interested in sex either so don’t see much point.

mondaytosunday · 09/05/2025 11:05

I haven’t had a relationship since my DH passed away when I was 47. I wouldn’t have minded one but it just hasn’t happened. Most men I know either work for me or are married to my friends. One or two I’ve met that I might have been interested in were not interested in me (like there’s not exactly a line looking to date a middle aged woman with two primary aged kids).
Friends I know who want a relationship have tried online which is soul destroying or just haven’t met anyone compatible/available/nice enough.
I think there’s a window, and passed that it gets much much harder due to most people being in long term relationships (and not yet divorced). Then you are at an age when everyone is divorced and that’s a whole other level of baggage. Then we get to a stage when we are quite content on our own and it’s not worth the hassle.

Choosechoclate · 09/05/2025 11:41

I just don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t understand the answer to this question.

In terms of being relationship material, I notice everything that wouldn’t be acceptable, good enough about me. I don’t need a man to confirm it.

I don’t understand why people can’t see that this is a reason. I’m good enough for myself though.

Also, as a single parent, you have to put your children first, provide stability, work more to support them, support with after school activities.

Where would be the time and energy and inclination to bring a complete stranger into the equation?

whitewineandsun · 09/05/2025 11:43

No3392 · 08/05/2025 19:45

I have the best life, why would I fuck it all up for a mediocre man?

Preach!

It's the peace for me.

AnnListersBlister · 09/05/2025 11:44

Fussy middle aged attractive lesbian with own business and enough assets who only finds someone attractive once in a blue moon.

FastFood · 09/05/2025 12:15

No3392 · 08/05/2025 19:45

I have the best life, why would I fuck it all up for a mediocre man?

Yep exactly that.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 09/05/2025 12:20

I divorced when my children were youngish and focused on them. I tried online dating but didn't like it. I found it sleazy, bearing in mind it was twenty odd years ago. None of my friends were in the same position, so no-one to go to pubs etc with which limited my possibilities. And that was that. I grew used to my own company and now I'm really happy being on my own.