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Mother ‘had a word’ with DH

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WellErrrr · 14/03/2025 06:56

I am furious and don’t know how to react.

My mother is generally kind and well-meaning, but is a very difficult character at times. I spent most of my childhood tiptoeing around her emotions. Grew to dread special occasions and still do to this day - Mother’s Day for example would generally be a day of her crying and banging things around the house because she felt she hadn’t had as much fuss made of her as her friends had. Talking endlessly about diets and taking me to slimming world with her each week, whilst filling the house with cakes and sweets. I now have an ED. I left home at 17 and whilst I’ve never fallen out with her, we have never been close. We’re very different people. She is very high maintenance emotionally and pretty much impossible to talk to normally, because she will cry or come out with ridiculous things that you just can’t answer. Eg if I say one of the kids got athlete of the week at cricket club, she will cry actual tears then find the child and tell them how much it means to her, then come out with some made up anecdote about my childhood and the time I won the cricket World Cup, then keep looking at the child, smiling and breaking into fresh sobs. Everyone including the child feels incredibly awkward and wants to disappear.
I could go on but won’t.

DH is a quiet person and has always struggled with her but used to make an effort. He just avoids her now.

DH works on oil rigs so is often away. Mother lives near the port. DH went away 2 weeks ago and has been off with me ever since.

Last night it came out. He bumped into my mum when he was leaving, and she asked him for a word. She said that he wasn’t treating me well enough and that I was always a child who has to have what I want, or I will be unhappy. Now that he is looking after me he needs to give me what I want, and by not doing so he’s making me sad. Mum said that he obviously hadn’t realised which is why she is telling him.
Now, what I actually want at the moment is a new kitchen. We moved into a house we are renovating and the kitchen is awful. However - DH and I are in full agreement that we are not going to borrow money to do this. We will be able to afford it later in the year and we’re both happy to wait. Obviously it’s not easy cooking for 4 kids on my own in a really crap kitchen, but I don’t mind - we’ll get a new one when we can afford it.

Mum does not see it this way. She’s appalled at the kitchen and won’t believe that I am ok about it. So what she said to DH is that I cry about the kitchen but won’t tell him. That it’s shameful that he allows his wife to live like this. That I was used to nice things with them and it’s a shame I have to live in squalor now etc.

The way she said it to DH was as if I’d been moaning to her nonstop and slagging him off then acting fine to him. When I’ve never actually mentioned it. So DH was quite upset but as he’s not a talker it took a while for me to discover it.

What do I do? If I confront her it will be dreadful, I’m not sure I’m up for it really. Or that it will solve anything. I think I just need to have as little to do with her as possible but I feel mean then.

OP posts:
TonTonMacoute · 14/03/2025 10:25

TokyoSushi · 14/03/2025 07:03

Oh wow, I don’t think there’s much point in confronting her really, I can’t see that it would make any difference and would just cause a load of drama. I think you just have to make it very clear to DH that’s absolutely not the case and keep your DM at arms length as much as possible.

I also have a ‘challenging’ DM and gave up stressing about her a long time ago. I’m reasonably low contact and DH & I are both well aware that’s just how she is and ignore most of the batshit stuff.

This.

Just make sure he knows you're on his side. He won't get caught on the hop if it happens again.

Delphiniumandlupins · 14/03/2025 10:25

You and your DH need to laugh together about this. I know your DM is awful and you don't feel like laughing but you two are on the same team. You're in agreement about the best way to tackle the kitchen, it's not like you have to live with it for 10 years (maybe you could get a dishwasher soon even if not in its final position). And go as low contact with her as you want. She will interpret everything you do and say however she wants (and everything you don't do or say) so give her little ammunition.

Oopsps · 14/03/2025 10:30

i think I would be more hurt he believed her over knowing her background / who you really are. If my m’n’law did something like that to me I would assume it was her batshitness and go straight to my hubby to tell him.

SnoopyPajamas · 14/03/2025 10:36

"He understandably has a fear of me turning into my mother"

Er, no, that's not understandable, OP. Your mother is a raging narcissist who has done you a lot of harm. It must be quite hurtful to hear him say that. Especially if you're nothing like her.

Sunshinedayscomeon · 14/03/2025 10:40

As a person with a similar mother and emotionally abusive childhood. My advise would be from experience is to go low contract, strong bondaries and not give too much information.

It's difficult to maintain, as I still for some silly reason think my mum will change. When I have confronted her in the past (due to her abusive behaviour) it's met "how dare you, I'm so hurt and POOR ME". Plus I'm reminded of it at every opportunity.

Keep reminding your DH that what your mum says isn't what you say.

Beyondthewindowsill555 · 14/03/2025 10:40

Crikey op. Talk about over-stepping the mark! This is where you draw a firm line. I know you almost cannot be bothered as your mum never listens, but you have to respond to this so she knows how seriously she has misbehaved.

You and your husband need to have a conversation with your mum all together,

Your mum needs to see you as a solid undivided team. And your dh needs to see clearly that it was all made up,

Calmly say together that her telling lies and constantly over-dramatising conversations could potentially have had a very negative effect on your marriage if you weren’t as strong a couple as you are, and she needs to apologise and stop, Your poor dh. I would be livid about how she had intervened without saying anything to you!

I hate to say it op but do you think this was strategic? I am not altogether sure that she was acting in your interests tbh. It sounds far more like mischief-making to me. Also, it sounds like she is aware that she was not the best of mothers and she is now jealous that you are doing it better? I thought that in reaction to her making up lies about you being a cricket champion! It was almost like your mother wanted her gc to know that she was as good a mother as you are! Or why else do that? Very odd!

Either that or she is bored and needs to make trouble to make herself important somehow. I know someone like this who is never happier than when inserting herself in to other people’s lives in a negative way. Very sad but true. In their case it’s because they are lonely with low self esteem.

Butchyrestingface · 14/03/2025 10:41

He understandably has a fear of me turning into my mother so it did really upset him to think that we’d been in cahoots slagging him off.

I agree with PP. Sounds like your mother is not the only problematic relationship in your life, unfortunately.

Do you genuinely, hand on your heart, think that your husband truly believed your mother's story? Is it possible that he uses her poor behaviour as an instrument to punish/control you?

Somanyquestion · 14/03/2025 10:46

ButchCassidysSundanceKid · 14/03/2025 07:05

As a child of a narc mother, I'm not sure confronting her in person will help, as from experience it just triggers the crocodile tears and creates more discomfort. Perhaps put it in writing via a text to minimise the scope for conflict that won't resolve anyway. And then you can rehearse what you want to write too.

However I think your husband is also at fault here for taking what she said at face value and choosing to be distant with you rather than using his words. Particularly as he knows she has form for unreasonable behaviour. I'd definitely be calling him out on that.

This with bells and whistles. It seems you are mainly annoyed at your mum. But you DH also had a responsibility to communicating better. Being off with you for a couple of weeks is not on. It shouldn't be just up to you to investigate and try to find out.

longtompot · 14/03/2025 10:47

TokyoSushi · 14/03/2025 07:03

Oh wow, I don’t think there’s much point in confronting her really, I can’t see that it would make any difference and would just cause a load of drama. I think you just have to make it very clear to DH that’s absolutely not the case and keep your DM at arms length as much as possible.

I also have a ‘challenging’ DM and gave up stressing about her a long time ago. I’m reasonably low contact and DH & I are both well aware that’s just how she is and ignore most of the batshit stuff.

Agree with this was of dealing with it. I think sadly it would only make her happy that she had caused this upset between you and your dh. A good honest chat with him to reiterate that what you mum says isn't usually the truth and if you have any issues it will him you will be talking to about it and not her. Remind him what she is like, and that you are not remotely anything like her.

BusyGreenFinch · 14/03/2025 10:48

The best way to deal with narcissists you can't completely avoid is to grey rock them (look it up) and put them on a very low information diet.

Unfortunately because they project it is impossible for your mother to understand that you have different feelings about your kitchen to her. It's also impossible for her to realise that other people don't turn on the tears and manipulate other people and situations to get their own way. She just assumed you have been doing what she does.

Bit disappointed on your behalf that your husband has been stewing about this for 2 weeks rather than having an open and honest conversation. He's basically given in to her narcissism, but hopefully this has been a lesson for him.

Also narcissism can run in families, but if you aren't one already you're not going to magically morph into one in adulthood.

femfemlicious · 14/03/2025 10:50

I think you should bring it up with her in front of your dh so that he can truly see that you haven't been crying about it to her. All cards out in the open. Doesn't have to be done in a hostile way, just matter of fact

arcticpandas · 14/03/2025 10:50

LTBM!

museumum · 14/03/2025 10:50

It sounds like she thrives on drama and confrontation so I would just send a short text to say "I have found out about the lies you've told DH about my feelings about our kitchen. Please do not interfere in my marriage or tell lies about me."
Then I would ignore, ignore ignore... polite if you have to see her at a wider family function but not seek her company.

Bluenotgreen · 14/03/2025 10:53

Ah yes. I have a mother like this. Never happy unless she’s created a crisis.

I have been NC for many years now. It’s absolute bliss and I thoroughly recommend it.

YouveGotAFastCar · 14/03/2025 11:08

WellErrrr · 14/03/2025 08:01

It’s very difficult in real life to deal with this stuff.

If I confront her now she will instantly break down and cry about how she was only trying to help and she loves me so much and I’m her precious baby and she wants only the best for me and she’s just trying to help and she ALWAYS manages to get it wrong and she’s just so upset with herself and she didn’t mean it like that and she wishes she had a mother and she’s just sad and she’s so so sorry.

Honestly I don’t think I can. Nothing will be achieved anyway.

She sounds phenomenally like DHs mother. He went VLC two years ago, I went NC, as did our children.

We are all so much happier that it’s unbelievable. I love DH to pieces but I’m not sure how much longer I could have put up with her. It’s exhausting and it makes you feel absolutely trapped, and when you’re not actually dealing with her shit; you’re worried about when you next will be, or what her reaction will be to X, or what batshit thing she’ll do next.

Bababear987 · 14/03/2025 11:22

WellErrrr · 14/03/2025 08:01

It’s very difficult in real life to deal with this stuff.

If I confront her now she will instantly break down and cry about how she was only trying to help and she loves me so much and I’m her precious baby and she wants only the best for me and she’s just trying to help and she ALWAYS manages to get it wrong and she’s just so upset with herself and she didn’t mean it like that and she wishes she had a mother and she’s just sad and she’s so so sorry.

Honestly I don’t think I can. Nothing will be achieved anyway.

OP for the love of god, either give this horrible woman a major dressing down or cut contact. You cannot be so disrespectful towards your husband by not dealing with this or by not standing up for him. I'm sure he would feel very let down by you and by you not addressing it she will think her behaviour is ok. Who cares if she tantrums, just walk out and tell her she owes you both an apology.

I mean if this was a MIL to DIL situation and your husband wasnt sticking up for you people would be telling you to leave him.

sandyhappypeople · 14/03/2025 11:24

BellaAndSprout · 14/03/2025 09:03

I can't believe your DH believed her and was off with you for two weeks....that is what I'd be pissed off about

This..

What the hell is wrong in your relationship that on supposedly finding out that his wife is struggling at home with a crap kitchen and how she didn't want to tell him but she cries about it and feels like she is having to make do with what she's got even though it is a daily struggle for her, and after he 'finds all that out' his first thought is annoyance and to give you the silent treatment!! WTF?? Why did it not occur to him that your mum was shit stirring?.. never mind all this 'sounding plausible' nonsense!! If it sounds plausible and he thought it was true why on earth would he punish you for feeling that way?

There is definitely a nerve touched there as far as he is concerned.

I'd completely ignore as far as your mum is concerned, she achieved what she set out to do which was to cause a rift and have you running to her, so best to pretend it never even happened, but good god you and DH need to get on the same team with a mother like her, she knew exactly which button to push!

Harry12345 · 14/03/2025 11:28

Doingmybest12 · 14/03/2025 07:26

You've got 4 children with this man but he doesn't know the situation with your mum well enough to brush it off or can't approach you to check out things are OK or believes your mothers version of your character rather than what he knows about you. I'd be fed up that he'd dragged this thing out, letting your mum interfere when you've got 4 children and a busy life to get on with. Keep your mum at arms length.

I agree I’d be upset that he doubted me and believed this nutter after 4 children together

diddl · 14/03/2025 11:30

I think it's feasible that if you have been complaining to him about the kitchen he might have thought that you have really moaned to your mum about it?

Even so, he should have spoken to you about it.

I can imagine just a "ooh I'll be glad when the kitchen is done" would set her off.

Well as long as she hasn't got access & would have it ordered & fitted for you...

WellErrrr · 14/03/2025 11:42

Yes obviously I’m very upset with DH too. But he didn’t grow up with her, so wouldn’t automatically brush it off like I would I suppose.

She was very plausible, made it sound like although I was saying one thing to him, I was slagging him off behind his back and crying about my awful life. Whilst he was out on the rigs missing his kids and working for weeks on end to try and provide for us.

I’m not surprised he was hurt. He was just ambushed with it in a ‘enough is enough I need to protect my child’ way. She was talking to him like he was hard of thinking and just didn’t understand and she was being so helpful and saving us all with her diplomacy.

He was pretty sharp towards her and she ended by apologising and begging him not to tell me. My dad, whilst moaning about her constantly when we were kids, is a total enabler who actively seems to feed this behaviour. He was stood by the whole time either quiet or quietly agreeing with DH. Then in private he probably agreed with mum.

I won’t see DH for weeks now, but we have just moved 4 hours away from my parents, having lived 20 mins away before. So things should be easier.

I really appreciate and have read all the replies 💐

OP posts:
WellErrrr · 14/03/2025 11:44

I can imagine just a "ooh I'll be glad when the kitchen is done" would set her off.

yes exactly.

Well as long as she hasn't got access & would have it ordered & fitted for you...

This won’t happen. They are constantly broke and constantly spending on needless stuff. It’s exhausting and I’ve given up trying to give financial advice.

OP posts:
ArcticBlasts · 14/03/2025 11:47

My dad, whilst moaning about her constantly when we were kids, is a total enabler who actively seems to feed this behaviour. He was stood by the whole time either quiet or quietly agreeing with DH. Then in private he probably agreed with mum.

This is what I suspected (and suggested) early on in my other posts.

Your dad has been walked over / is hen-pecked and your Mum allowed to behave like a spoilt brat.

Maybe it's time you all called her out on her behaviour?

If no one does, how is she to learn it's not acceptable?

AnonymousBleep · 14/03/2025 11:50

I wouldn't bother saying anything to her. She's a narcissist so it's pointless, she'll just turn it round onto you. I have a narcissistic sibling who has pulled stuff like this with me too - and that's the stuff I know about. I often wonder what she's told people I've said (that I haven't) that I actually don't know about.

Very very low contact is the way forward - and make sure your entire friends and family know to take anything she says with a whole bag of salt.

JumboMumbo3467 · 14/03/2025 11:52

Sounds like your Mum has a personality disorder. Does she have/or had any mental health problems? Is she like this with anyone else?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 14/03/2025 11:52

With narcs, they will never have a big realisation if you just somehow say the right words. You can never get through to her and she will never change.

Going no contact or low contact is the only way to stop them from treating you like this.

She put your marriage at risk and lies to your children. Cut her out of your life.

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