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Am I expecting too much from my partner?

234 replies

Emmacam · 11/03/2025 11:04

We’ve been together 3 years (both 26) and have lived together for pretty much all of that time apart from maybe 5 months at the beginning.

I love him very much. He is my best friend and he makes my world go round. We share very loving life together. He is attentive, and shows me so much love and affection and I know he adores me. He is a gentle soul and there is no bad bone or malice in his body. That’s never in doubt.

I just go through waves of worry that we might not be compatible in terms of spending the rest of our lives together but I’m not sure if I’m just anxious recently. Not sure what I’m gaining out of this post - maybe to see if other ladies think this is normal or whether I’m justified in my worry / or whether I’m crazy in being worried or crazy for living my life like this. Please see points below.

So this is my overall contribution in our day-to-day lives of our relationship:

I always cook dinner - I love cooking I find it de-stresses me. I don’t mean ovenables I always like to cook fresh. I sometimes batch cook a couple days in advance on a Sunday so it means I’m not rushing around on Monday and Tuesdays.

We both work 9-5 jobs. I do love mothering and being ‘domesticated’ (even tho I’m not a mum yet) and so I always make my partners sandwiches before he goes to work, make him breakfast and fill up his coffee flask.

NB sometimes he’s still fast asleep have to wake him up and he might not get up until 10 mins before we are both supposed to leave. I mentioned today if he wouldn’t mind waking up a little bit earlier to help with feeding the cat, and maybe helping make his own breakfast because sometimes it feels like a rush. Maybe I’ve set the precedent here so now he expects it but his response was that ‘I’m always complaining’ and that ‘he could about stuff I do to’ … idk I just thought it was rather an immature response to a reasonable request.

I always do the washing - washing clothes, towels, bed sheets… these things literally don’t cross his mind so of course I do!

when it’s his birthday I always get super thoughtful presents and plan nice stuff with his friends. I go above and beyond. I also tell him I love him and appreciate everything he does etc.

I book our holidays because it’s never crossed his mind and we’d never get a break. Obviously I ask what he’s like and I’ll book it but it dawns on me that if it wasn’t for me we wouldn’t go anywhere! We have a joint bank account so it’s not financial reluctance - it’s just he’s never taken initiative. Maybe this is normal!

I even contact his friends and mother on his behalf. He is so bad and always has been on his phone. It does make me anxious because if I don’t reply to his mum then I feel like I’m in the wrong or responsible - people mainly go through me to get to him and at first I didn’t mind but sometimes it makes me anxious. I’ve encouraged him to be more proactive on his phone but he said he thought ‘I liked’ doing it….. but it’s not the case I just don’t want people thinking he’s dead if I don’t reply!

anyway so I do all of the above which for the most part I’m very happy to do and even though he’s thoughtful in terms of telling me he loves me, cuddles etc he does not show these appreciation in terms of gestures.

So, his lack of contribution:

for all of our christmasses I’ve had to drop hints at the fact he needs to remember to get me a Christmas present. He told me when we first got together he was ‘bad’ at that kind of stuff but now 3 years later surely he knows what I like. Anyway every Christmas he dashes to John Lewis super last min on Christmas Eve. Last year he bought me a candle…. I don’t even like candles! Well I don’t mind them but it obvs wasn’t a thoughtful gift.

since our first Christmas together I’ve had to buy his mother a card on his behalf so he can write in it. I buy her presents from the both of us because otherwise he wouldn’t do it! Same goes for his dad etc. Don’t get me wrong - I like doing this stuff but it worries me these things don’t occur to him. Same goes for Mother’s Day and their birthdays etc! He is great at writing very well written cards so he does do that but that’s as far as it goes.

for my birthday this year I said I’d like some wellies. Well a month later and they still haven’t arrived! He said the Evri driver didn’t deliver it and he has showed me the emails between them but it’s his lack of willing… I’ve never had a problem with evri and if I have I’ve ensured it’s sorted! if it was me I would just re-order elsewhere because it’s my partners birthday??

He’s never booked a holiday for us - I’m always booking them. Because if it wasn’t for me we just would never get a breaks. He’s never once said ‘let’s go away’…

he never buys me flowers - I mean this one is a non issue.

it goes without saying I mention this stuff to him but nothing ever changes, I know he loves me but it does make me feel a little upset sometimes. I worry that we will actually never get engaged because he lacks the capacity to think things through in advance - I know he WANTS to marry me but I’m worried about his lack of urgency sometimes.

I know he appreciates everything I do because he says it and he says thank you but I suppose I just wish there was more romance and if I’m not getting it now I probably never going to get romance!

I’m sorry to be TMI and crude but he never goes down on my during sex. At first he told me it’s bevause he never did it before but this just seems to prove that he’s a little bit selfish and unromantic. I always do for him!! Like… all the time!

I know I’ve said negative stuff about him but he also does contribute in amazing ways:

  • drives us everywhere - I mean he LOVES driving and doesn’t think I’m a good driver (I’m not!) so he’s very happy to
  • he soothes my anxiety and makes me calm when I’m stressed because I am prone to emotionally instability and that’s something that can’t be replaced
  • he’s so handsome inside and out.
  • he’s very intelligent and I know he will make a great father
  • fixes manly stuff like the cars etc

so maybe I am just behind dramatic and needed a rant….

OP posts:
Gymmum82 · 11/03/2025 11:09

Honestly I think you’ll become extremely resentful if you do have children as he will not step up and take on the mental load. Or his share of chores.
My advice would be step back now. Stop making his lunch. Stop washing his clothes. Make some chores ‘his chores’ stop contacting his family. Do not buy xmas/birthday gifts for his family. If he doesn’t contact them or buy them anything let him. This is not your job it’s his job. Take a massive HUGE step back and see what happens. If he still won’t step up this isn’t going to work long term

Waterlilysunset · 11/03/2025 11:12

Wow OP you have started on a really dangerous path. This man has it made - you are his maid!! All the cooking and washing and making his lunch and filling his flask. It’s too much. You are bending over backwards and making sure he doesn’t see you as an equal. Time to stop all this and start a new 50:50 life or you will burn out.
Dwfinitely don’t have children with him before you get this sorted. Man can make his own sandwiches you aren’t a 50s housewives, you have a job!!!!!!!

Rh0dedenr0n · 11/03/2025 11:13

Nothing will change. This is him now and if these things bother you now they will only bother you more in the future. You are absolutely not unreasonable to expect more from him. He's useless. Trust me. I had one of these before. The fact you're writing here shows these things trouble you. Don't sell yourself short. One day you will have kids and you won't be able to shoulder everything yourself and it will be really fucking hard because youve enabled this manchild so long. Sorry, i know i sound harsh, i just really cannot bear men who don't help with the mental load because women let them get away with it. x

BodenCardiganNot · 11/03/2025 11:13

God almighty. What on earth does he bring to your life???

ValentinesGranny · 11/03/2025 11:14

You do have a child.

BodenCardiganNot · 11/03/2025 11:14
  • he’s very intelligent and I know he will make a great father
No he won't. He will a lazy shit who will leave every single aspect of child rearing to you.
category12 · 11/03/2025 11:14

Don't have kids with him.

You basically have an overgrown lazy-arse son already.

category12 · 11/03/2025 11:17

What is tolerable and even endearing as a loved up girlfriend with no other major commitments becomes unmanageable and resentment-making once you have children dependent on you.

Be warned.

Livelaughlurgy · 11/03/2025 11:18

You are going to have a child, stop doing all this for him and then he'll be resentful as hell that you expect him to wake himself up, get his own breakfast and lunch and then help with the baby on top of that!!!!!!

Tiswa · 11/03/2025 11:18

Oh god he sounds awful - he won’t make a good father he will resent the attention you pay to them and not to him

good looking and intelligent are superficial things ina relationship he undermines you with the driving and I suspect the emotional stability and have you in a place where you can’t imagine finding someone better

even though I am not sure you could do much worse because it is bad

tropicalroses · 11/03/2025 11:21

I'd say you live separately for 6 months. He's never lived as an adult without a mum. You've fallen straight into that role. He needs to learn to take care of himself

Msmoonpie · 11/03/2025 11:21

The problem is you have fallen into babying him and now he thinks it’s not his responsibility. You say you love “mothering” - he is a grown adult not a child and you have hugely enabled this behaviour. You’ve made a rod for your own back.

Quite honestly I don’t know why women do this. It’s almost a desperation to be needed.

Sit him down and tell him there needs to be a better division of labour. That you will not do all of his washing and cleaning. That he needs to take responsibility for the family and book at least 50% of holidays. That he needs to wash his own clothes. Have a cleaning rota.

If he doesn’t then he will have no clean clothes.

If he doesn’t book a holiday you go on your own holiday and leave him behind.

He will make his own lunches as he is a grown man.

Tell him you expect gifts at Christmas and birthday with actual thought going into them.

Do NOT have children unless his behaviour drastically improves.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/03/2025 11:22

You have settled for so very very little here sadly. Is this all you think you deserve?. And I doubt he's ever going to marry you either. He does not want to share anything with you.

He is not a great partner to you if he is happy for you to carry the vast amount of mental load. He is there too with you so is half responsible for what happens within your home. He seems to be in this life for his own self so is selfish to the core and is more than happy to have the likes of you now run after him (that was likely his mother's job previously). Stop trying to be all things to all people.

I would think you are an ok driver and he has undermined your confidence further. Why don you let him put yourself down like this?. It's in his interests indeed to keep you in the hole he's partially dug for you.

His parents are his, you are under no obligation yourself to keep in touch with them if he does not. And why does he not keep in touch with his mother?.

I would think twice about bringing a child into this given how both selfish and self absorbed he is. And what you write re his supposed contributions are weak and the barest of bare minimum's. He being handsome does not contribute at all to the running of your household. If anything he increases your anxiety and uses it against you rather than decreases it.

PeppyTealDuck · 11/03/2025 11:23

This level is absolutely impossible to maintain when pregnant ir having children, yet he will be expecting it from you. You will get resentful over time. You already have your doubts.

You need to stop, treat him like a self-sufficient adult (it’s more respectful too) and find what you want to do in your life.

When you stop being his maid, he will kick off, but you just hold your ground.

Rosybud88 · 11/03/2025 11:27

I don’t want this to sound patronising but you are 26, why put up with this? Tell him straight to grow up and respect you or you will find someone that does. Please don’t waste any of your time if you have doubts.

RealEagle · 11/03/2025 11:27

Stop acting like his mother and more like a partner

Msmoonpie · 11/03/2025 11:27

Also why the actual fuck are you waking him for work ? Leave him asleep it’s his problem.

Jesus it’s like you have a child.

TwistedWonder · 11/03/2025 11:28

So basically you are mother, baby sitter and house maid to a grown adult man who can barely wipe his own arse without your help?

You’ve created a HUGE rod for your own back by setting this unrealistic lifestyle which won’t ever change. You may be ok with his weaponised deliberate incompetence now not having a child thrown into the mix will mean he either shapes up or ships out because this isn’t sustainable.

Honestly I’m more than double your age and I’ve never done a quarter of the stuff you do for a grown adult

Lurkingandlearning · 11/03/2025 11:28

I say this kindly but I think you wouldn’t have to worry about your emotional stability if you didn’t have the anxiety of shouldering a grown man’s responsibilities. As far as I can see, apart from going to work, driving a car and some DIY, he is living the life of a child. An affectionate child maybe but that’s not good enough, is it? And please don’t think having a child of his own will inspire him to man up. It won’t.

category12 · 11/03/2025 11:28

You should also read some of the relationship threads around Christmas and Mothers Day, where similar men let their partners down year after year after year and they tell a tale of woe about skivvying for their partner and being taken for granted.

And people ask them, what changed, why have you let it gone on for so long?

And the answer's that nothing has changed, not him for sure - but the lack of effort on his part has been ongoing from the beginning and has eroded the resilience of the woman away.

Seems like that's the path you're on.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/03/2025 11:30

The man cannot even be bothered to buy you a pair of wellington boots. I would put a crisp fiver on it these were never ordered.

And he will chuck it back at you repeatedly that he is indeed useless at buying things because he told you.

He is selfish to the core both in body and mind. He does not want to share and will never share with you. Stop being his bang maid.

SandyY2K · 11/03/2025 11:30

I didn't finish reading it, but got the jist of it.

Tbh, you started off doing EVERYTHING for him, so that's what he expects.

With Christmas.. send him links of ideas for you in November.

Stop contacting his friends for him. You're not his PA. It's not your job to reply to his friends.
I'm wondering if he has some learning difficulties, because I don't know any 26 year old fully functioning men, that would want their GF reading messages from their friends and responding as you've done. It's too much.

STOP going down on him, if he's unwilling to reciprocate.

He's not experiencing any consequences for his lack of action and he will continue as he is unless something changes.

He doesn't sound like an awful person, that's irredeemable.

Given your serious concerns, perhaps you could talk to him about going to couples counselling to try and resolve these issues, as you're concerned about your future together if things stay as they are.
All your attempts to sort it out between you have been futile, nothing has changed, so professional intervention could help.

Alkaline182 · 11/03/2025 11:30

I can’t imagine why you would think he’d make a good father if he can’t even get out of bed to feed the cat. How would you manage doing EVERYTHING like you already are doing, with a child on top of all of it. Honestly it reads more like you have a son, than an equal partner.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 11/03/2025 11:31

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. Did your mother run around like a headless chicken around her man too?.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 11/03/2025 11:32

You don't have a partner OP. Apart from the shagging, you are his surrogate mother.

How this does not induce the ick in you is beyond me.

Please do not have a baby with this manchild.