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Am I expecting too much from my partner?

234 replies

Emmacam · 11/03/2025 11:04

We’ve been together 3 years (both 26) and have lived together for pretty much all of that time apart from maybe 5 months at the beginning.

I love him very much. He is my best friend and he makes my world go round. We share very loving life together. He is attentive, and shows me so much love and affection and I know he adores me. He is a gentle soul and there is no bad bone or malice in his body. That’s never in doubt.

I just go through waves of worry that we might not be compatible in terms of spending the rest of our lives together but I’m not sure if I’m just anxious recently. Not sure what I’m gaining out of this post - maybe to see if other ladies think this is normal or whether I’m justified in my worry / or whether I’m crazy in being worried or crazy for living my life like this. Please see points below.

So this is my overall contribution in our day-to-day lives of our relationship:

I always cook dinner - I love cooking I find it de-stresses me. I don’t mean ovenables I always like to cook fresh. I sometimes batch cook a couple days in advance on a Sunday so it means I’m not rushing around on Monday and Tuesdays.

We both work 9-5 jobs. I do love mothering and being ‘domesticated’ (even tho I’m not a mum yet) and so I always make my partners sandwiches before he goes to work, make him breakfast and fill up his coffee flask.

NB sometimes he’s still fast asleep have to wake him up and he might not get up until 10 mins before we are both supposed to leave. I mentioned today if he wouldn’t mind waking up a little bit earlier to help with feeding the cat, and maybe helping make his own breakfast because sometimes it feels like a rush. Maybe I’ve set the precedent here so now he expects it but his response was that ‘I’m always complaining’ and that ‘he could about stuff I do to’ … idk I just thought it was rather an immature response to a reasonable request.

I always do the washing - washing clothes, towels, bed sheets… these things literally don’t cross his mind so of course I do!

when it’s his birthday I always get super thoughtful presents and plan nice stuff with his friends. I go above and beyond. I also tell him I love him and appreciate everything he does etc.

I book our holidays because it’s never crossed his mind and we’d never get a break. Obviously I ask what he’s like and I’ll book it but it dawns on me that if it wasn’t for me we wouldn’t go anywhere! We have a joint bank account so it’s not financial reluctance - it’s just he’s never taken initiative. Maybe this is normal!

I even contact his friends and mother on his behalf. He is so bad and always has been on his phone. It does make me anxious because if I don’t reply to his mum then I feel like I’m in the wrong or responsible - people mainly go through me to get to him and at first I didn’t mind but sometimes it makes me anxious. I’ve encouraged him to be more proactive on his phone but he said he thought ‘I liked’ doing it….. but it’s not the case I just don’t want people thinking he’s dead if I don’t reply!

anyway so I do all of the above which for the most part I’m very happy to do and even though he’s thoughtful in terms of telling me he loves me, cuddles etc he does not show these appreciation in terms of gestures.

So, his lack of contribution:

for all of our christmasses I’ve had to drop hints at the fact he needs to remember to get me a Christmas present. He told me when we first got together he was ‘bad’ at that kind of stuff but now 3 years later surely he knows what I like. Anyway every Christmas he dashes to John Lewis super last min on Christmas Eve. Last year he bought me a candle…. I don’t even like candles! Well I don’t mind them but it obvs wasn’t a thoughtful gift.

since our first Christmas together I’ve had to buy his mother a card on his behalf so he can write in it. I buy her presents from the both of us because otherwise he wouldn’t do it! Same goes for his dad etc. Don’t get me wrong - I like doing this stuff but it worries me these things don’t occur to him. Same goes for Mother’s Day and their birthdays etc! He is great at writing very well written cards so he does do that but that’s as far as it goes.

for my birthday this year I said I’d like some wellies. Well a month later and they still haven’t arrived! He said the Evri driver didn’t deliver it and he has showed me the emails between them but it’s his lack of willing… I’ve never had a problem with evri and if I have I’ve ensured it’s sorted! if it was me I would just re-order elsewhere because it’s my partners birthday??

He’s never booked a holiday for us - I’m always booking them. Because if it wasn’t for me we just would never get a breaks. He’s never once said ‘let’s go away’…

he never buys me flowers - I mean this one is a non issue.

it goes without saying I mention this stuff to him but nothing ever changes, I know he loves me but it does make me feel a little upset sometimes. I worry that we will actually never get engaged because he lacks the capacity to think things through in advance - I know he WANTS to marry me but I’m worried about his lack of urgency sometimes.

I know he appreciates everything I do because he says it and he says thank you but I suppose I just wish there was more romance and if I’m not getting it now I probably never going to get romance!

I’m sorry to be TMI and crude but he never goes down on my during sex. At first he told me it’s bevause he never did it before but this just seems to prove that he’s a little bit selfish and unromantic. I always do for him!! Like… all the time!

I know I’ve said negative stuff about him but he also does contribute in amazing ways:

  • drives us everywhere - I mean he LOVES driving and doesn’t think I’m a good driver (I’m not!) so he’s very happy to
  • he soothes my anxiety and makes me calm when I’m stressed because I am prone to emotionally instability and that’s something that can’t be replaced
  • he’s so handsome inside and out.
  • he’s very intelligent and I know he will make a great father
  • fixes manly stuff like the cars etc

so maybe I am just behind dramatic and needed a rant….

OP posts:
Nettleskeins · 13/03/2025 12:20

This is one of the most depressing descriptions of a relationship I have ever read. You have created this false idol. The more you cherish and care for him the more you invest in the person he should be. But he isn't that person. You are doing all this for yourself, in a way. This person you "love" doesn't exist.

KmcK87 · 13/03/2025 12:23

PensionedCruiser · 12/03/2025 15:05

Oh dear, Naunet, you are writing off every man with ADHD and other executive function disorders as children, not able to be good husbands/fathers. No wonder women are always complaining about not being able to find a loving, supportive partner!

Marriage/partnership is a compromise and for it to be successful, we have to communicate our needs to each other. If the price of a loving supportive relationship is buying socks and arranging for him to see his mother, I'm in and have been in for nearly forty years. Yes, sometimes I wish for something different from my DH, but I am absolutely certain that he has similar thoughts. I cannot think of anyone I would rather have had at my side when we were struggling with a child with SEN and he turned out to be an excellent, fully involved father.

This isn’t about your relationship though and clearly not what’s happening in the OP case. People need to stop making everything about additional needs when it’s not even relevant.

Pinkfemme1 · 13/03/2025 12:59

additional needs or not, if it's that kind of early stage, when you're young, no kids, it's a time to decide what you want for yourself long term. do you want to be someone's carer? I understand if you already have kids with someone and they struggle with ADHD symptoms, and try to get help, try to work on their issues, and you might sort of work with them, but this is not relevant here. This guy doesn't seem to think that he has an issue with anything, but blames the OP for complaining, they don't have ties and she can and should get out before she looses or her precious years on this guy. Dating is for weeding some of these guys out not enabling them, perhaps he will then seek help and support and will sort himself out for next person! Or can stay as he is, perhaps can find someone like him and they can live together not engaging with life or family together, not getting each other presents etc. Why to make yourself miserable though.

Naunet · 13/03/2025 13:01

PensionedCruiser · 13/03/2025 10:42

My DH has ADHD, I mentioned in a previous post that it sounded like OP's partner has an Executive function Disorder - common in both men and women who seem to be unable to organise themselves. I have little experience of women with Executive Function disorders, but I have seen the chaos that they too live in.

I did also say to OP that she had a difficult decision to make and that she had to weigh up the pros and cons of living with someone who was unlikely to be able to change.

I don't know where he is being supportive or compromising - like you, I only know what OP has chosen to tell us. I have not said that it is a woman's role to skivvy for a man - I certainly never have and wouldn't expect anyone to do so - but I do maintain that relationships work best when both partners communicate effectively, particularly about their expectations of each other. I maintain that there is no such thing as Mr or Miss Perfect at the beginning of a relationship, but we can both become much closer to ideal partners.

I absolutely love that you're accusing me of misogyny, defending misogynistic men. I'm so far beyond that, it's really funny. Before retirement, I ran a tiny Ltd Company and I was DH's boss. Yes, my name was on the paperwork and the buck stopped with me. His parents kept trying to engage him about the bottom line and whether it was a successful Company - his response was to refer them to me "she's the boss, she brings the money in, I just work where I'm told". It was true - and a successful partnership, whether at home or in business, uses each others strengths to benefit both.

I am not the old fashioned wife and mother I was brought up to be, to the despair of family. Feminism was an exciting influence in my teens and I became a independent woman working in a man's world. I had very few women colleagues when I was employed so I learned an awful lot about men and relationships from their perspective. I learned how to talk to men both as their colleague and as their manager. Believe me, it is entirely different to managing a mixed team.

Personally, my bar is and was very high, my independence, even within marriage is very important to me - when I was young, my family used to worry that I would never find a husband because I was too picky. I knew that I could never be happy as a 'little woman'.

Yes, I know I'm old and past it, but I have learned a thing or two on the way. I feel for young women these days, working, bringing up children and looking after the home without proper support from their men folk. They have every right to resent being put in that position. We all deserve a good supportive relationship, but we each have a different view of what that looks like. The last straw for you could be a minor niggle for me and vice versa. We are similar, but individual.

So you've decided OPs partner has some kind of EFD even though you're completely unqualified to do, and then you expect everyone else to take that as fact and challenge posters like me claiming I'm saying all men with ADHD are babies despite me not even mentioning ADHD or men in general?! Don't you see how mad that is?

PensionedCruiser · 13/03/2025 19:42

KmcK87 · 13/03/2025 12:23

This isn’t about your relationship though and clearly not what’s happening in the OP case. People need to stop making everything about additional needs when it’s not even relevant.

OPs description is of someone with an Executive Function Disorder. Not everyone with that issue has a diagnosed disorder (nor should they), but some do. Mostly, they are lovely people, but they are chaotic unless they have help to establish routines. Incidentally, my DH was diagnosed and medicated in his late 50s, so was never diagnosed with special needs. I know of others who have received a diagnosis and medication after 50 - they all say that their lives have changed for the better, because the problem is more difficult to live with as they get older and have less energy.

80s · 13/03/2025 19:55

He is attentive, and shows me so much love and affection and I know he adores me. He is a gentle soul and there is no bad bone or malice in his body.
He might talk the talk, but he certainly doesn't walk the walk. His actions show no attention, love or affection and his saying you're "complaining" when you ask him to help make his breakfast reveals a massive great bad bone running through his very core.

I had one of these - though it didn't show until after we had children - and ended up losing my job as he refused to take a day off when the kids were ill.

KmcK87 · 13/03/2025 20:31

PensionedCruiser · 13/03/2025 19:42

OPs description is of someone with an Executive Function Disorder. Not everyone with that issue has a diagnosed disorder (nor should they), but some do. Mostly, they are lovely people, but they are chaotic unless they have help to establish routines. Incidentally, my DH was diagnosed and medicated in his late 50s, so was never diagnosed with special needs. I know of others who have received a diagnosis and medication after 50 - they all say that their lives have changed for the better, because the problem is more difficult to live with as they get older and have less energy.

No the OP description is of someone who is a lazy sod and taking the piss out of her good nature.

PensionedCruiser · 13/03/2025 21:43

KmcK87 · 13/03/2025 20:31

No the OP description is of someone who is a lazy sod and taking the piss out of her good nature.

OP is the only person who can make that judgement.

KmcK87 · 14/03/2025 05:57

PensionedCruiser · 13/03/2025 21:43

OP is the only person who can make that judgement.

If we can’t call him lazy you can’t diagnose him with executive dysfunction

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