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DH says I am lying about fertility results

183 replies

imsolosthere · 02/03/2025 09:23

I have a previous thread where i explained my situation and back story

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5277977-i-want-to-leave-dh-but-feel-stuck?page=2

Yesterday DH says for the last 5 months (im 6 months pregnant with our fifth) that he is convinced I lied to him 12 years ago about fertility results. He said he has spoken to two consultants who have told him what i have said cant be true.

When i was 24 I had concerns about my fertility due to a long history with period problems but have been checked for PCOS and it being confirmed I did not have it. My GP sent me to a fertility clinic for tests. I cant remember the exact details but I have requested my reports from them now. I do know that i was told my egg count was 13 which was very low for my age and that if i wanted children I should get started now. So then BF (now DH) agreed and we had our first and soon after our second.

We then talked about a 3rd a few years later and again I went for the same tests to see where we stood. I was told my egg levels were 7 and that at this rate I would be infertile by the age of 30.

We are now pregnant with our 5th. Pregnancy has never taken more than a few months, so he is convinced I doctored the letters from the clinic back then to trick him into having kids.

He wants to meet with the fertility clinic to check what i have told him all them years ago, I have no issues with this as i know i havnt told lies on this.

Im just so lost and stuck, I have told him not to speak to me unless its about the children, im so low and spend too much time crying. My whole pregnancy has been unhappy. Im trying to find ways out but none seem possible

OP posts:
imsolosthere · 05/03/2025 16:37

Imbusytodaysorry · 05/03/2025 16:35

Is there a possibility you could get someone ( best friend) to be in the area and see if he has someone there ?
Or you could turn up one evening to “talk” all seems extreme but if he thinks your stuck home with 4 kids and he thinks you aren’t suspicious .
Tell him you have been thinking and a break is a great idea. But you will go to the holiday home and he can stay with the kids and he can have a break Wheh they in bed at night.

Edited

I don’t really have friends especially not any good enough to do that.

it’s a fair drive away and I wouldn’t have anybody to watch the kids to just be able to turn up

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 05/03/2025 16:38

imsolosthere · 05/03/2025 16:37

I don’t really have friends especially not any good enough to do that.

it’s a fair drive away and I wouldn’t have anybody to watch the kids to just be able to turn up

And he knows this !
Who are the mobile bills registered with ?
do you have access to those

imsolosthere · 05/03/2025 16:40

Imbusytodaysorry · 05/03/2025 16:38

And he knows this !
Who are the mobile bills registered with ?
do you have access to those

We each have our own mobile contracts

there are some times he will hand me his phone and ask me to charge it for him so I guess not really secretive

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 05/03/2025 16:44

I my ex had his on do not disturb then that way his Phone wouldn’t be going off

Hollietree · 05/03/2025 16:44

imsolosthere · 05/03/2025 16:03

What should I be looking out for or doing because there has been no change in routine or anything like that

I think my advice mostly is to just not rule out that there may be another woman. I wouldn’t waste my time snooping around particularly, but just keep your eyes and ears open and keep it as a possibility in your mind.

Especially since you have already told him it’s over…….. and he’s behaving/speaking like he wants it to be over too. You don’t need proof of an affair to know that he is behaving like a twat and treating you badly. You just don’t want it to be a shock discovery that blindsides you in the future.

Gothamcity · 05/03/2025 16:49

imsolosthere · 02/03/2025 09:36

He is saying i lied to him 12 years ago and that he never would have started a family that young but that the results put him under pressure to do so and that my "lies" forced him and he didnt get to choose for himself

So he's basically calling you a liar and saying he regrets your older children being born. Nice bloke. It takes two at the end of the day, and if he didn't want to start a family young then he had the option to discuss that with you and delay it, or walk away if delaying was non negotiable for you.

Imbusytodaysorry · 05/03/2025 16:49

Hollietree · 05/03/2025 16:44

I think my advice mostly is to just not rule out that there may be another woman. I wouldn’t waste my time snooping around particularly, but just keep your eyes and ears open and keep it as a possibility in your mind.

Especially since you have already told him it’s over…….. and he’s behaving/speaking like he wants it to be over too. You don’t need proof of an affair to know that he is behaving like a twat and treating you badly. You just don’t want it to be a shock discovery that blindsides you in the future.

I agree but I’m the mean time he is punishing OP and won’t leave the home. .
If she knew there was an OW maybe that would change the dynamic

imsolosthere · 05/03/2025 16:51

Gothamcity · 05/03/2025 16:49

So he's basically calling you a liar and saying he regrets your older children being born. Nice bloke. It takes two at the end of the day, and if he didn't want to start a family young then he had the option to discuss that with you and delay it, or walk away if delaying was non negotiable for you.

He says he doesn’t regret the kids but thinks I lied to pressure him into having kids and he didn’t have a say in the timeline

OP posts:
Catoo · 06/03/2025 00:31

imsolosthere · 05/03/2025 16:51

He says he doesn’t regret the kids but thinks I lied to pressure him into having kids and he didn’t have a say in the timeline

Well he did have a say. He could have said no. So there’s that.

I’m not so sure he isn’t meeting up with someone on these days away he’s having. Sigh.

They can honestly always find a way to cheat.

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 14:04

Password has been changed so now I don’t have access to emails and have no reason to ask for the password

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 15:08

How do you feel about this?
When were you last in them.

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 15:27

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 15:08

How do you feel about this?
When were you last in them.

I’m not sure how I feel.

I checked his calendar on Monday to make sure he would be in the office while I had online therapy

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 15:38

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 15:27

I’m not sure how I feel.

I checked his calendar on Monday to make sure he would be in the office while I had online therapy

It’s really is all a guessing game but OP I really don’t think he’s innocent .
For example a lot of places do online booking for a meal/ table .
I hope he isn’t cheating but as others and myself said it’s very much the script .
He possibly not leaving as he doesn’t want to pay for 5 kids or because she doesn’t want to look like the bad guy .or both .
Or when he does leave he can say you were separated for ages before hand. .

My bet is on he has someone else. .
I think you need to get your ducks in a row .

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 15:41

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 15:38

It’s really is all a guessing game but OP I really don’t think he’s innocent .
For example a lot of places do online booking for a meal/ table .
I hope he isn’t cheating but as others and myself said it’s very much the script .
He possibly not leaving as he doesn’t want to pay for 5 kids or because she doesn’t want to look like the bad guy .or both .
Or when he does leave he can say you were separated for ages before hand. .

My bet is on he has someone else. .
I think you need to get your ducks in a row .

I definitely think he’s not leaving because he doesn’t want to look like the bad guy

OP posts:
nodramaplz · 06/03/2025 16:09

I'd tell him to FO no decent husband would come out with that shit!

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 16:11

He’s now announced he’s working late this evening but that’s not entirely unusual

OP posts:
imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 16:11

nodramaplz · 06/03/2025 16:09

I'd tell him to FO no decent husband would come out with that shit!

I wish it was that easy

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 16:53

Oh dear!

If you txt and told hi not to come back and his stuff would be in the “shed” “garage “ for collection . How do you think he would react ?

Have you been on the entitled to website to see how much child maintenance he would be due. .

OP you really need that solicitor app asap .
Anything else you are struggling getting your head around ?
He is a scum bag going this to his wife . Mother of his kids and his PREGNANT wife .

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 16:55

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 16:53

Oh dear!

If you txt and told hi not to come back and his stuff would be in the “shed” “garage “ for collection . How do you think he would react ?

Have you been on the entitled to website to see how much child maintenance he would be due. .

OP you really need that solicitor app asap .
Anything else you are struggling getting your head around ?
He is a scum bag going this to his wife . Mother of his kids and his PREGNANT wife .

I don’t think I can legally remove his belongings or kick him out as we both own the house

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 17:01

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 16:55

I don’t think I can legally remove his belongings or kick him out as we both own the house

No your right you can’t but maybe he would let you away with it through guilt. .or it may play into his hands .

imsolosthere · 06/03/2025 17:08

Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 17:01

No your right you can’t but maybe he would let you away with it through guilt. .or it may play into his hands .

I don’t think he would let me away with anything

OP posts:
Imbusytodaysorry · 06/03/2025 17:18

Take the control away from him . You really do need to start standing strong and make the choices befroe he does. .
you can serve divorce papers and send them and state adulatory. let him prove otherwise.

mathanxiety · 06/03/2025 17:49

So he's building a narrative that you tricked him into having babies.

The establishment of a blaming narrative is what I see here. He is dissatisfied with family life for some reason and his story is that he's been a victim of some wrongdoing by you for years. This usually happens when a man has had his head turned, sorry to say.

Any hint of anyone else on the horizon?

mathanxiety · 06/03/2025 17:53

imsolosthere · 02/03/2025 10:15

He won’t get violent, he’s too smart for that. He uses mind games, he wares me down, always makes comments about my clothes, hair, clothes I buy the kids.

id be very happy if he would cheat, then it would give me something on him, right now it’s my word against his. He very much seen as the great dad and the golden boy to his family.

he has an extremely well paying job, I was told yesterday that he only works so hard to provide for me and the kids and that he only bought it house because I said it’s my dream home…. I don’t remember saying that

You don't need permission or evidence of adultery or DV or the thumbs up of society to get the divorce ball rolling.

No fault divorce makes it easier than it was in times past.

Please talk to a solicitor and also contact Women's Aid - 0808 2000 247

It sounds as if he's gearing up to leave you.

mathanxiety · 06/03/2025 18:03

Hollietree · 02/03/2025 12:08

He knows the marriage is coming to an end. He likely know that this is because he has been an emotionally abusive and twatty husband. So he is trying to control the narrative and invent a reason why you are actually to blame - so he can not look stupid in front of his friends and family. He wants to go round saying you were a liar, you trapped him etc. Rather than people think that his wife left him because he was a knob (the actual reality).

Just ignore him. Prepare a sentence to say to him every time he brings it up “I have never lied to you about my fertility. Our marriage is over now and I am not willing to keep discussing this with you.” Just repeat the same sentence and then refuse to continue the conversation.

If any male family member of mine was saying the same as your husband, I would laugh at him and tell him that clearly after a couple of kids it was obvious there was no issue conceiving and he happily kept producing more children with you!

Yes to this.

OP, the fertility thing is just a handy stick to beat you with. If it wasn't that it would be your weight or your cooking or he would lie about you flirting with other men.

You need to study "The Script".
www.emotionalaffair.org/the-cheating-spouse-follows-a-script/

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