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Anyone else have no friends?

233 replies

Lostworlds · 04/01/2025 08:52

I’m in my early 30’s and have absolutely no friends. I don’t really know how it happened as I used to have friends but everyone drifted away from me. I put in a lot of effort and still people aren’t interested.
I had 2 close friends but turns out they weren’t my friends at all.

I’ve tried meeting people at baby and toddler groups, I’ve suggested meeting up with people I’m friendly with at work. I’ve gone out with my dh’s friends partners but nothing sticks. I’m on mat leave which means I’m at home a lot more than I’d like to be so I take the kids out a lot and do things otherwise I spend the day alone with my kids which is great but I don’t hear from any adults at all. No one ever makes the effort to contact me.

Sounds so pathetic and I have no idea what I’m asking here other than is anyone else like me?

OP posts:
purpleme12 · 09/01/2025 18:36

What do you mean loneliness attracts loneliness

Plastictrees · 09/01/2025 18:46

@purpleme12 I think I used the wrong word there. I mean that loneliness can beget loneliness. This makes sense in the less community-focused way most of us live nowadays, plus how chronic loneliness can impact self esteem over time so it can become harder to socialise (when there is an opportunity) and make connections. Often if we’ve been hurt by others in the past we might be less inclined to put ourselves ‘out there’ anticipating further disappointment/hurt/rejection.

rosydreams · 09/01/2025 19:03

welcome to my world its been like this for years for me at least at work its some human interaction.But just started mat leave and its just yay i have months off but no one to spend time with apart from my other half/kids.I love them dearly but the world or my world is so small.

You get used to the isolation but it does suck i just wish for something other than just this.But theres no point chasing people if they dont want to be friends dont bother .You dont need the stress in your life

whats worst i had to have a emergency section so first month been just recovering.My usual trick is distraction if you keep yourself busy its not so bad.But sitting resting when theres so much to do is driving me nuts

see what hobbies you can do it helps

Angelcakelover · 09/01/2025 19:08

Anyone in Hertfordshire or Essex? I wouldn't even mind a pen pal 😂

Bluefluffer · 09/01/2025 21:14

OP - you sound wonderful and I don't think there's anything wrong with you - I think your expectations of friendships may be a little bit high?

Many friendships are only superficial or temporary or situational.

I used to be a bit like you in my 30s - trying to organise groups or contacting people 1-1. My WhatsApp was full of "dead groups".

Looking back, I probably came across as intense and needy.

I'm happy with myself, but British culture is super emotionally closed/conservative when it comes to new friendships.

I'd say this is even stronger for female friendships.

If your face doesn't perfectly fit, or you secretly trigger someone you're completely "shut out" and it's easy to take personally!

You make someone in a group competitive or judgemental or upset the unspoken hierarchy....that's it!

No point analysing, it happens often in groups.

Plus many Ok people don't tend to cultivate new friends due to moving about, changing jobs, changing life stages, prioritising family, burnt out from work. Or they're traumatised from managing previous friend drama.

You can't tell someone's private situation.

I love meeting new people but can't prioritise close friends as work is challenging.

I'd hate to have a good chat or connection for someone to feel I'd rejected/ghosted them. But work and money are the (secret) priority for me.

For the loneliness, maybe think about self-care plus networks or communities?

I'd say to find organised regular hobby groups and third spaces and commit to regularly physically turning up with no expectations.

(Meetups, sports, coworking spaces, Buddhist meditation or Quaker groups, hiking groups, book clubs, Shut up and Write).

Try a few and review, then make extra effort with the good ones. This will take time so keep a sense of humour.

I personally have tried to make myself schedule in and try out 1-2 new groups/spaces each month. This has been a slow process, about a year?

A few were "ok but not super sociable". Or too far or not practical for me to continue attending etc.

Two had crazy women who were bristling on first look and it didn't get better 🥺

One meet advertised for thirty somethings was all elderly men 🫣 and me (note I look young for my age). It was actually a fine conversation to be fair.

One running group had no-one but me attend, but I had a plan B (Aldi shop nearby).

If the group is "ok" and some regulars and some new and solo people and they move around to chat, that's a good sign.

There's often some "harmless regular group weirdos", but if there are enough ok people don't let them put you off.

You may find a lot of retired folk or people new to town. International people bemused at how unfriendly the UK is 😉.

I find mixed groups easier as men are more comfortable coming solo and talking to everyone.

Just observe and be open to see what happens rather than looking for phone numbers straight away. If you're not comfortable, try to work out if it's the group, or your own anxiety.

It can take a couple of meets, or towards the end of the night for people to relax.

(Somewhere where you're the only newcomer....and no-one at all talks to newcomers is definitely a NO!)

It's been a longer term project with lots of anxiety and weird experiences (and some great ones!). I journalled in DayOne to process my thoughts and work out what to continue attending.

However has definitely paid off - before I'd write things off too easily (and I enjoy staying in so too easy to opt out!).

Now I've taken the time to sift through, I've found 3-4 groups I'm happy to be a physical regular at and seem to be booked out till summer.

Can't go all the time but 3-4 groups means 1-2 things a month (with no organising pressure for me).

Before I was looking for deep, committed conversations and friendships and "too much too soon" and feeling rejected if it didn't work.

However, many friendships people have are actually quite superficial/small talk/just a chance to get out to a pub - nothing wrong with that.

People can be amazing on an ad-hoc basis, but looking for "ride or die" friends is too intense and seems to only attract weirdos or predators.

Realistically, most people only rely on partner/family/themselves for commitments/important stuff.

Now I'm treating it more casually and have lower expectations it's more emotionally enjoyable and feels less dramatic.

I may ultimately have deeper connections develop, but I know I have an ok amount of organised contact either way (and am not turning into a complete weirdo writing long posts on Mumsnet ALL the time)

StrawberryDream24 · 09/01/2025 23:02

It sounds like your kids aren't at school yet.

I found I met v few people until school.

Then (there are still people who aren't interested) but there are some women who are interested in play dates, and socialising themselves, and sports clubs/activities/music events Etc.

It's much much easier because you're seeing them regularly and there are groups discussing school stuff etc.

Delly9 · 09/01/2025 23:36

Anyone tried Ladies Circle? It is a National friendship group. 18 months ago I contacted a local one on Facebook as they had a page. An admin said she would pass my number onto to the woman who ran the WhatsApp group and I never heard anything. I assume it is a cliquey group. It was disheartening as I wanted to get out and was snubbed.

I could try again as there is another Ladies Circle group about the same distance away and the people look more friendlier.

JeeneThompson · 10/01/2025 22:59

Mylazycatspyjamas · 09/01/2025 05:55

I’ve never used tik tok and don’t intend to start. Glad it worked for you though.

Edited

A very good idea not to use it. I also don't use it.

TheSparkling · 15/01/2025 11:19

Just to add there is a little Manchester meet up Whatsapp group set up now and if anyone is nearby then please put your hand up to be included!

Mary46 · 15/01/2025 13:19

Hi op we had a walking group but that fizzled as fast. Met one for coffee at xmas. As another post said loads dead whatsapp groups. Nobody commits to a date either so I just do things myself now.

lonelyalone · 21/01/2025 19:36

Hello lovely people.

Lots of your posts resonate, as in how did this happen? I used to be a sociable party person with a full social diary (a long time ago). Now I struggle to do anything with 'friends'.

I sort of know why I'm lonely most of the time - life circumstances (single parent, have moved location). BUT I do often think why does no one gravitate towards me and why don't I gravitate towards them? Is it me?

It could be related to trust issues, I'm not sure. I've been let down, have suffered trauma and as a result I'm extremely cautious. I don't think I used to have boundaries so would go where the wind would blow, but now I'm on alert all the time and perhaps have gone the other way.

Would be nice to have some judgement-free chats xx

TheCleverRobin · 26/02/2025 20:47

I found this when looking for posts from people experiencing this, in the hope of feeling less lonely. I am in my early 40s and in exactly the same position. Any friends I ever did have (including ones who were once quite close) have drifted away over time, never to be replaced!

I have no advice, other than to offer reassurance that I totally understand how it feels. I always thought having kids would provide a natural common ground for new friendships and it hasn't been like that at all. Unfortunately I think I'm becoming more closed off from other people as a result.

All I can say to those of us going through this is to keep trying and being as friendly and open to new people as possible. Thank you for posting this as while it's rubbish so many of us feel lonely, it made me feel less alone if that makes sense.

Mylazycatspyjamas · 27/02/2025 07:16

Maybe it would be helpful for people to post their location , even a rough idea, and perhaps people could arrange meet ups.

greyweek · 27/02/2025 07:37

Mylazycatspyjamas · 27/02/2025 07:16

Maybe it would be helpful for people to post their location , even a rough idea, and perhaps people could arrange meet ups.

Yes! Anyone in Hertfordshire wanting to set up a WhatsApp group?

hideawayforever · 27/02/2025 11:12

Merseyside area here

marshyrun · 27/02/2025 12:24

DaisyDukesAuntie · 04/01/2025 09:51

If any of you are based near York, I'll be a friend 😀

I'm in Doncaster, so not too far away 😊

Justmeonmyown · 27/02/2025 12:35

Walsall area here

3rdbabytime · 27/02/2025 12:37

East london here :)

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 19:02

I'm from Manchester and from Sweden I am looking for new friends

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 19:03

That's close to me as well

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 19:09

I like to be added to the Manchester group thanks if it's still uo

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 20:12

Well, I am from Sweden, Scandinavia, and I have lived just as long in Denmark. We are very open and friendly, and straight forward, we don't talk to strangers outside but I do I'm typical non typical. We take time getting to know people yes but we include you right away and show we want to get to know. We develop slowly but like that, accept you as you are, we don't have classes in our country either and we don't judge appearances. Me I'm very open fast and easy going and friendly, and speak my mind. We do , generally. We are very political correct and very humanitarian. We are very equal minded as a society and in relationships. We strive to treat everyone the same. Meaning the right to be.
It's a very expensive country, 3 times more. Lots of nature right outside, and free to roam, lots of lakes and tall trees and the coast cliff lines are beautiful in the summer. Colder. Very high standard on everything and good quality and treatment.

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 20:15

My heart goes out to all you beautiful people you don't deserve to be lonely. I wish I could invite everyone to some Scandinavia treats

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 20:24

I'm a deep person, ambivert love people, recharge by myself. Warm open a good communicator, i rather have openness and honesty, I'm very in touch with myself and my own feelings. I am different, in a positive way. Genuine and a very good person and friend. Well at least those who do know me from my country and abroad say. I let people just.. Be. Relax, easy going. I am just interested in people and who they are. Some might say too open too honest, but we all can say too that this what about include. Well, at least that's how i grew up and my country etc i love the way you explain things, as I had no idea, you can't mind read. I wish people could just be open

Miracle11 · 25/03/2025 20:29

It's such a shame that people with kids or without can't be flexible enough to compromise and make room, in Sweden i raised my friends kids and they still remember me, I made sure they had a good background growing up full of confidence. We had a lot of fun. We went to restaurants and made food at home. It doesn't have to be difficult, extra aunts can really help.