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Husband just walked out- intimacy issues

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Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 11:41

Bit of background, me and DH have 3 kids aged 7,4 and 2. My libido always been a bit lower than his but okay, we talked about it before marriage and with our vicar in wedding counselling prior and dh said he couldnt live in a sexless marriage. Which is fine by me I agreed.
Since then and with the children our sex life has been up and down and on a down patch after our second we had some counselling where husband says he doesn’t feel desired, touch is a love language and he always initiates which makes him feel like he’s pressuring me. He basically said if things didn’t improve he’d leave because it’s so important to him. we talked it through (though counsellor wasn’t great and part of her advice was to stop breastfeeding??!!!). we were okay for a while.
Recently I’ve changed contraception and after sorting it finally my husband suggested we try for intimacy once a week and he didn’t always want to intiate.

This was fine at first but last few weeks we haven’t and I didn’t think anything of it. Then last weekend he did suggest we go upstairs but I’d hurt my neck and told him it might be worth waiting a few days which he was annoyed about but he knows it’s true!

Cut to mid week last week and after we did kids bedtime I came down and he had packed a bag! He told me he had arranged a room through air bnb and was moving there. He was very calm saying he had always been clear about intimacy and he couldn’t see the marriage continuing. The air bnb is 10 minute walk away and he left.
I have been left overnight with kids and doing breakfast in the morning. I normally do this but sometimes he is here working from home or sometimes he has left for the office. I do the childminder drop off for youngest and school runs. We both work, then one of us will pick kids up from childminder at 5:30-6. He has come here after work to help with bedtimes then off back to the air Bnb!!!

Last night he sent an email saying this weekend he would be back home with family (they live 150 miles away) and then he would look after kids next weekend. He said we can discuss a longer term solution. He has the money to rent a room I’m sure but that money we have been putting towards our holidays etc. He earns more than me.

I am totally blindsided and don’t know what to do next?! When I’ve talked to him he said he hasn’t ruled out reconciling but doesn’t know how things are expected to change when we’ve already discussed and had counselling about this issue before. I’d be willing to make more of an effort but it’s just not on my radar as much as him.

Ideas? He’s really calm and just seems a bit sad and in “I’ve got a plan” mode?! I’ve been frustrated upset and shocked and asked him to stay and talk but he’s just been going back to air bnb and wants to talk when situation a bit clearer and calmer? Kids are okay but confused their day is pretty much the same.

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Spagettifunctional · 16/11/2024 11:44

Oh god - I think I would see a solicitor and oraganise formal separation and he needs to rent somewhere more long term.
i wouldn’t fight for him. Maybe your libido is low as you are not overly attracted to him

maybe there is someone better out there for you 💐

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 11:57

I’m attracted to his as much as anyone else but we’ve been together 16 years so just got into a routine I guess.

we’re all meant to be spending Christmas with his family it’s al booked and arranged? So no idea what’s happening about that now.

My family live an hour away if he rents a room in a house am
I meant to clear out when it’s his turn with kids until we sort things out longer term?

Bit dazed and confused!

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paradiseonfire · 16/11/2024 12:00

You have a right not to want sex and he has a right not to want to be in a sexless marriage. He made his feelings very clear this can't have been a surprise?

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 16/11/2024 12:02

I think in these sort of cases there's a fundamental clash in sex desires. You have no need to have more sex than you want especially with a 2 year old and sore neck, but equally he doesn't need to sacrifice his life to a mainly sexless marriage (I wouldn't).

So make it formal via solicitors, and move on. I never see marriages with this incompatibility working out.

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 16/11/2024 12:03

paradiseonfire · 16/11/2024 12:00

You have a right not to want sex and he has a right not to want to be in a sexless marriage. He made his feelings very clear this can't have been a surprise?

I think this is what I wanted to write but I used more words 😆.

HoppityBun · 16/11/2024 12:04

Just make sure he pulls his weight equally in childcare.

Pinkissmart · 16/11/2024 12:04

Bloody hell

You’re in the trenches of child rearing now. All kids are small and incredibly demanding. Sometimes there isn’t much left at the end of the day after the kids go to bed.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be with someone who was so breathtakingly selfish.

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 16/11/2024 12:05

paradiseonfire · 16/11/2024 12:00

You have a right not to want sex and he has a right not to want to be in a sexless marriage. He made his feelings very clear this can't have been a surprise?

Bit of a dick move to keep producing children in this sexless marriage where his needs aren't being met though...

I'm so sorry OP. @paradiseonfire is right, but he's not exactly covered himself in glory with the way he's handled this.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 16/11/2024 12:06

You have 3 young children and it's not like you're never having sex. What's the other intimacy like? I'm not really a touchy person but it's important to DH, I find he's a lot happier when I make an effort with little things sitting with him on the sofa instead of on the opposite one, he likes it if I rest my feet/legs across his lap etc, I don't like people doing it to be but it makes no odds to me if I rest my feet on the footstool or on him. I also make an effort to make sure I kiss him goodbye when I go to work etc. give him a hug in the kitchen when he's waiting for the kettle to boil. Those little things genuinely don't bother me one way or the other but he feels disconnected and unloved without it.

I am very much an acts of service girl, I came in from work yesterday and he'd cleaned the house top to bottom, got almost all of the laundry washed, dried and put away, fed DS and confessed he'd intended on having enough time to pop out and get something nice for our dinner but hadn't had chance so suggested a takeaway from my favourite Thai place. The bliss of walking in from a horrible day at work and knowing there were no major chores to do this weekend! 😍

I doubt this is just about not having sex once a week

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 12:06

Is it really that unsalvagable. I don’t even know if we have the money to divorce since he’ll only be able to afford a room not a house with the kids. I guess we’d both end up spending the equity in a house sale on rent?
my libido might be more like twice a month although I probably would have to try and remember to initiate even that… is that worth trying?

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Pinkissmart · 16/11/2024 12:06

paradiseonfire · 16/11/2024 12:00

You have a right not to want sex and he has a right not to want to be in a sexless marriage. He made his feelings very clear this can't have been a surprise?

But the amount of energy needed to look after three young children can be surprising.

Purplecatshopaholic · 16/11/2024 12:07

paradiseonfire · 16/11/2024 12:00

You have a right not to want sex and he has a right not to want to be in a sexless marriage. He made his feelings very clear this can't have been a surprise?

This is obviously a very important issue him. It’s clearly not for you, and it’s not on your radar how important it is for him despite counselling. He presumably wants another relationship with someone for whom sex is more important (has he got one already..?) I’m really sorry you are so blindsided op, but it sounds like he has raised this issue since even before you were married, and you aren’t listening or aren’t taking it seriously. I’d take a bit of time to reflect and really think about what he has said and what you want too, then the two of you need a serious talk (about the whole relationship - would your libido be higher if he helped more with the kids…?)

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 12:11

Purplecatshopaholic · 16/11/2024 12:07

This is obviously a very important issue him. It’s clearly not for you, and it’s not on your radar how important it is for him despite counselling. He presumably wants another relationship with someone for whom sex is more important (has he got one already..?) I’m really sorry you are so blindsided op, but it sounds like he has raised this issue since even before you were married, and you aren’t listening or aren’t taking it seriously. I’d take a bit of time to reflect and really think about what he has said and what you want too, then the two of you need a serious talk (about the whole relationship - would your libido be higher if he helped more with the kids…?)

Edited

I do get that and understand but I can’t force myself to be more interested than I am so what’s the compromise?

fyi to other comments he’s said himself otherwise our relationship is great we’re both really hands on with chores and children. He’s generous with his money and pays for most of the childcare, child clubs and lessons, our savings and holidays (and I guess no more savings and holidays if he’s renting a room). We both put 50/50 into mortgage though and keep any spare cash in our own bank accounts to spend as we like.

There isn’t really another area of contention except maybe I do slightly more childcare than him in the week but I don’t work Fridays and work from home Monday- Thursday.

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Gettingbysomehow · 16/11/2024 12:11

So he's been non stop badgering you for sex throughout your marriage and has now resorted to leaving and threatening you with divorce if you dont comply. Im afraid my vagina would slam shut.
Does anyone feel like a sex kitten when their children are young and demanding non stop.
Why doesnt he grow up and be a good husband and father. You might feel like it then.
Id divorce him. I dont let men blackmail me like this.

UsernameNameUser · 16/11/2024 12:11

You can’t force yourself to want sex, he can’t force himself to NOT want sex. This is a fundamental issue in your marriage, and the top solutions have not worked. Any more compromise from either of you is going to leave one person unhappy - either by him not having as much sex as he wants, or you forcing yourself to have sex you don’t want. Not healthy for anyone.

Due to a multitude of things from chronic illnesses to trauma, my libido is essentially non existent (I’d say it crops up around twice a month at most). As such, I stay single as I couldn’t put up with someone pestering me - but I also don’t expect someone to put up with me not providing something he wants

It’s up to you to decide what you can and can’t put up with. He has decided he can’t put up with minimal sex, so it’s your turn to decide what you want

Nothatgingerpirate · 16/11/2024 12:11

You'd be better off if he walks for good.

BettyBardMacDonald · 16/11/2024 12:12

I don't see how one could possibly be "blindsided" when he's been very clear about his feelings, needs and intentions. He gave numerous opportunities, to no avail.

Did you think he didn't mean what he said?

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 12:12

And btw he wanted 3 kids I was happy with 2… and we ended up agreeing on that as well as he comes from a big family so that’s how we ended up with 3 yet it’s him deciding to leave?

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50andhopeless · 16/11/2024 12:13

I think he has been very clear and has already checked out so fair enough. What he cannot do is to dictate when and how to see the children or how much he will have to pay. You have to agree on how to share the children and use the CMS calculator to determine the payments. If he doesn't agree, you open a case with CMS.

IAm16StoneHalloween2024 · 16/11/2024 12:13

@MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira

"Those little things genuinely don't bother me one way or the other but he feels disconnected and unloved without it."

This is important and well described. "Those little things" turn out to be the big things.

Anotherworrier · 16/11/2024 12:14

Oh this is really sad but I do think it’s the right thing to do.

I’m sorry you have to go through this b

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 12:15

Gettingbysomehow · 16/11/2024 12:11

So he's been non stop badgering you for sex throughout your marriage and has now resorted to leaving and threatening you with divorce if you dont comply. Im afraid my vagina would slam shut.
Does anyone feel like a sex kitten when their children are young and demanding non stop.
Why doesnt he grow up and be a good husband and father. You might feel like it then.
Id divorce him. I dont let men blackmail me like this.

Not sure that’s a fair reflection. Once a week isn’t badgering especially when he’s not said anything sometimes and hoped for me to intiate and I obviously haven’t been on the ball and now it’s been a few weeks and think it’s the straw that’s broken the camels back.

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ShinyBinLid · 16/11/2024 12:16

I think you are fundementally incompatible, sorry. It's OK for you not to want sex, but equally he's allowed to want it. I get the feeling from your posts it feels like a chore to you, and that makes him feel unloved. If it wasn't often but you really really wanted it when you did have it then that would be one thing, but I get the impression you'd be happy never doing it?

Anotherworrier · 16/11/2024 12:16

Newstart2024 · 16/11/2024 12:15

Not sure that’s a fair reflection. Once a week isn’t badgering especially when he’s not said anything sometimes and hoped for me to intiate and I obviously haven’t been on the ball and now it’s been a few weeks and think it’s the straw that’s broken the camels back.

I agree it’s not a fair reflection be careful not to have your mind twisted/confused as some MNetters will go hard with their opinion on this subject and call your DH abusive etc which doesn’t sound like he is.

LaidBackLettice · 16/11/2024 12:18

So sorry for your situation. The only thing I would say is don’t move out of the family home yourself into alternative accommodation for any reason and make it clear to your DH that this is the case. It’s your home and you have children. If he wants to leave that’s up to him, and if he wants to have his stint with the kids at home etc, it’s his choice to either join you back in the martial home, or visit from his Airbnb.

My father was a Solicitor who specialised in family law and this was always the first and most important piece of advice he gave clients, family & friends who found themselves in a similar situation to you, he really couldn’t stress it enough, especially when there are young children. I hope you can find a way forward in time x