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What makes people attractive and others not?

220 replies

Beanscene · 30/05/2024 19:04

Am talking about average looking people here not stunning models. I always hear women complaining about unwanted attention sexually and people who have affairs and have to choose between affair partners and OH. People who have admirers at work etc etc....it seems like your average person gets a lot of sexual attention etc etc. Just to be clear here am not looking as am married (and now old🤣)....but have literally never ever had any attention in my life especially the kind of attention other women talk about. No one has ever given me their number, asked me out, complimented me....wolf whistled etc etc.....i know this is unwanted attention. but I hear about it so often I wonder why I've never received it. I would say am short, thin, not curvy (which prob has a lot to do with it) but facially am not Quasimodo. And have never ever apart from DH had a whiff of attention.

OP posts:
Disturbia81 · 09/06/2024 13:49

Gingerlad12345 · 09/06/2024 13:11

Petite/hourglass figure, an excellent bake and cook, hardly wears makeup and doesnt wear fake tan (natural looking), thick wavy hair, doesnt have a history of sleeping around, doesnt be on her phone all the time, kind, feminine, wants to be a mother and doesnt watch any crap TV shows like love island.

Lol thats what attracts me to women and lucky for me thats my GF 😍

Although I was a virgin up until 25 (and my GF was a virgin up until 24) so we lost ours together which was very special for us, before her I never got any attention from women Despite being tall, athletic, always tries to look my best, dont do drugs, have a good career ect. I think its because I have always been quiet/introverted, I know of short fat men with bad teeth who have slept with lots of women because they are outgoing and extroverted with good social skills. I think men cant rely on looks alone while women can (although as beautiful as my GF is Im defiantly not with her just cause of her looks)

But then even when I was single and struggling I always had my preferences in women so I wasnt going to date/sleep with someone who i aint attracted to. I have always liked petite/slim women or average although I also think some women look very well chubby, I have always been turned off by women who have slept around because I have never been into the idea of sleeping around myself and lucky for me I found myself a virgin so it wasnt as awkward when we did it, my GF also said that she couldnt date a man who has slept with many women. Women who are very good around kids are super attractive to me and I have always went for girls who want to be mothers more than CEO's of companies or who are career driven. My GF is a qualified chief which is way more attractive to me than a girl with a degree and I think most men would agree

Gross 😂

Gingerlad12345 · 09/06/2024 15:14

@Disturbia81 lol its my preference and she so happens to be everything that I go for in a woman.

Im sure you have your preferences in men also

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 09/06/2024 15:36

Gingerlad12345 · 09/06/2024 13:33

@Jessica356 just because you dont get wolf whistled by men or dont get men giving you thier phone number doesnt mean your not attractive. Most men dont wolf whistle at women (I never have myself) and some men dont approach women because they are shy, dont want to be accused of something, already have GFs etc.

My GF is very beautiful looking (has an hourglass figure, clear skin, very thick wavy hair, she gets compliments all the time from women) but she told me that she has never really got any compliments by men and never got approached. She is the type of girl who isnt really into wearing makeup or wearing revealing clothes (its her preference). Usually girls who get attention are the ones who look for it by wearing tons of makeup, wearing tight clothing or showing lots of skin etc.

Ah this old chestnut! It's got to be the clothes they wear and the tonnes of make up they have on. Can't be because they're actually attractive and have a personality.

yumyumyumy · 09/06/2024 16:13

Gingerlad12345 · 09/06/2024 15:14

@Disturbia81 lol its my preference and she so happens to be everything that I go for in a woman.

Im sure you have your preferences in men also

No one cares about your girlfriend or your preferences

Comedycook · 09/06/2024 19:03

When men talk badly about glamorous women it's usually because they are bitter they can't attract one.

5128gap · 09/06/2024 22:14

Gingerlad12345 · 09/06/2024 15:14

@Disturbia81 lol its my preference and she so happens to be everything that I go for in a woman.

Im sure you have your preferences in men also

Its one thing having a preference for a certain asthetic, but your preferences are basically about how a woman best serves you. I assume you mean she is a chef (not senior level police or fire service)? Which isn't about her personality but about how she best meets your needs by cooking, and her love of children and disinterest in a career means you think she'll raise your kids for you without you having to do a lot. Which is all well and good, but she's only 24 with a whole world of options and opportunities ahead. I hope she'd still be 'your type' if one day she decided to spread her wings a little, and if she does and sees what the world has to offer a young woman today, you'll still be her's.

Lostlibidopleasereturn · 10/06/2024 07:36

Eye contact and confidence.

I don't usually attract much attention, but one night I just felt on top of the world and I felt really good in myself and how I looked, so I wasn't looking down at the ground when people looked at me (as I usually would), and the attention I got from men that night was unbelievable. Dozens of men came on to me and stopped me to talk to me, most of them very good-looking.

The only difference was in how I behaved and felt, as I was wearing clothes I had worn before, etc.

KitKatChunki · 10/06/2024 07:45

I agree it's confidence. You see it a lot on here that when a woman needs support the man in her life jumps ship. After having a baby, if they get sick and when someone dies...if the woman even slightly "drops the ball" or has a weak moment, the men will run a mile. They want a strong mum basically.

Looks wise it really doesn't matter. My best friend was so depressed she didn't even wash or shave for a very long time and she assured me she was getting regular visits from men on Tinder.

Newnamehiwhodis · 10/06/2024 07:47

I don’t know, OP, and I wish I did; from the age of 9 onwards, I have been on the receiving end of over the top, way too much attention from men - and I have tried to become invisible, and it just made it worse.
I do not understand it. It has made my life a living hell.

sometimes I think the predator types can sense when someone is afraid or quite damaged, and THAT is what draws them. I have had years and years of therapy, and the ptsd is now more manageable. In my 50’s I am finally getting to the point where I can leave the house and go to work or go to the store without being in a state of heart-pounding, hands shaking levels of fear, but it’s taken a lot of work.

so others have said it’s “confidence” that draws attention- I’d say the opposite, it’s vulnerability. Look at Marilyn Monroe: there is something terribly fragile and broken about her- something In her eyes.

and so I’d also go on to say: if you didn’t have the kind of attention I’m talking about, and you found a good husband, oh, lucky, lucky you.

it’s a mystery I wish I could solve.

and yes, the unwanted attention is still happening, and I am 51 years old. :(

the only information I have from men is: curves. The way I move. “Unconsciously sexy.” (FUCK THAT for a really horrible way to excuse bad behavior toward someone!)
“innocent” “fragile”, and “when you’re happy, you light up, and every man in the room wants to help you and own you.”

fuck that, as well! It’s awful and a nightmare to be seen as some kind of helpless breeding doll.

I have, as a result, sworn off relationships, and labeled myself asexual so people will leave me alone.

Howbizarre22 · 10/06/2024 07:47

Gingerlad12345 · 09/06/2024 13:11

Petite/hourglass figure, an excellent bake and cook, hardly wears makeup and doesnt wear fake tan (natural looking), thick wavy hair, doesnt have a history of sleeping around, doesnt be on her phone all the time, kind, feminine, wants to be a mother and doesnt watch any crap TV shows like love island.

Lol thats what attracts me to women and lucky for me thats my GF 😍

Although I was a virgin up until 25 (and my GF was a virgin up until 24) so we lost ours together which was very special for us, before her I never got any attention from women Despite being tall, athletic, always tries to look my best, dont do drugs, have a good career ect. I think its because I have always been quiet/introverted, I know of short fat men with bad teeth who have slept with lots of women because they are outgoing and extroverted with good social skills. I think men cant rely on looks alone while women can (although as beautiful as my GF is Im defiantly not with her just cause of her looks)

But then even when I was single and struggling I always had my preferences in women so I wasnt going to date/sleep with someone who i aint attracted to. I have always liked petite/slim women or average although I also think some women look very well chubby, I have always been turned off by women who have slept around because I have never been into the idea of sleeping around myself and lucky for me I found myself a virgin so it wasnt as awkward when we did it, my GF also said that she couldnt date a man who has slept with many women. Women who are very good around kids are super attractive to me and I have always went for girls who want to be mothers more than CEO's of companies or who are career driven. My GF is a qualified chief which is way more attractive to me than a girl with a degree and I think most men would agree

Fucking hell. The 1950s called they want their attitude back! Bake and cook? Petite? My jaw on the floor reading this until you revealed yourself as a man. Typical. Sexist. Do one off this thread.

Newnamehiwhodis · 10/06/2024 07:49

Howbizarre22 · 10/06/2024 07:47

Fucking hell. The 1950s called they want their attitude back! Bake and cook? Petite? My jaw on the floor reading this until you revealed yourself as a man. Typical. Sexist. Do one off this thread.

Yep. This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.
if they only knew how murderous their regard makes me. If they only knew the absolute hatred I feel when they tell me I am sweet.
fucking vile.
these kinds of men see someone who looks “innocent”, and they feel superior.
they feel safe with a “mothering” type.
because of these men and the way they’ve hunted me all my life, I have cut my hair short, and I’m going to be investing in tattoos. Many fucking tattoos- just to keep them AWAY.

trust me, OP, you don’t want this kind of attention.

KitKatChunki · 10/06/2024 08:03

Newnamehiwhodis · 10/06/2024 07:49

Yep. This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about.
if they only knew how murderous their regard makes me. If they only knew the absolute hatred I feel when they tell me I am sweet.
fucking vile.
these kinds of men see someone who looks “innocent”, and they feel superior.
they feel safe with a “mothering” type.
because of these men and the way they’ve hunted me all my life, I have cut my hair short, and I’m going to be investing in tattoos. Many fucking tattoos- just to keep them AWAY.

trust me, OP, you don’t want this kind of attention.

Edited

This is the other thing - some men want weak prey others want a mum. Often I think they swing between wanting both and veer from one to another.

Zeberd · 10/06/2024 08:28

I think a lot of men also want a wannabe porn star!

I got dumped once because “the sex wasn’t adventurous enough”

Gingerlad12345 · 10/06/2024 19:46

@5128gap she wont raise my kids, We will raise our kids together and help each other out. Lol yeah shes a great cook/bake but I can cook for myself also and when we do live together I have told her that we can take turns on who does the cooking.

Its funny how many of you women seem to think that my GF is "weak" just because she wants to be a mother (she told me this) and isnt one of these women who sleeps around and chases a degree which then end up in debt.

A lot of you women really dont understand what men actually find attractive do you? Because we will say things like "We dont want women who have slept around" but instead of trying to make yourself more attractive you'll just call a man "A sexist" for having preferences.

Im tall, athletic, Very hygenic, I use skincare products, I aint a drug or porn addict, I've never been to a strip club and I've never slept with a prostitute, career driven, have a good bit of money saved so me and my GF wont struggle financially. Guess what? The men like me dont want sluts, we dont want masculine women, we dont want to raise another mans child.

In fact thank fuck im off the dating market because most girls my age are just shit and aint worth it.

Gingerlad12345 · 10/06/2024 19:47

@Newnamehiwhodis well go date a woman then

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/06/2024 19:50

For me, it’s the vibe I get when I chat with someone. It’s not rationale, it’s not definable, but I can feel it.

5128gap · 10/06/2024 19:58

Gingerlad12345 · 10/06/2024 19:46

@5128gap she wont raise my kids, We will raise our kids together and help each other out. Lol yeah shes a great cook/bake but I can cook for myself also and when we do live together I have told her that we can take turns on who does the cooking.

Its funny how many of you women seem to think that my GF is "weak" just because she wants to be a mother (she told me this) and isnt one of these women who sleeps around and chases a degree which then end up in debt.

A lot of you women really dont understand what men actually find attractive do you? Because we will say things like "We dont want women who have slept around" but instead of trying to make yourself more attractive you'll just call a man "A sexist" for having preferences.

Im tall, athletic, Very hygenic, I use skincare products, I aint a drug or porn addict, I've never been to a strip club and I've never slept with a prostitute, career driven, have a good bit of money saved so me and my GF wont struggle financially. Guess what? The men like me dont want sluts, we dont want masculine women, we dont want to raise another mans child.

In fact thank fuck im off the dating market because most girls my age are just shit and aint worth it.

With all due respect (which tbh, isnt much) you are a man in his 20s with the attitude of a particularly regressive octogenarian from a town the modern world passed by. So, id be surprised if many of the women on here care what men like you find attractive. In fact the only interest most of us would have in your preferences would be largely centred around thanking our stars we are not it.

Comedycook · 10/06/2024 20:24

A lot of you women really dont understand what men actually find attractive do you? Because we will say things like "We dont want women who have slept around

Only very insecure men who are crap at chatting up women say things like this... men who are good at talking to women, are confident and get a lot of female attention don't even think about it really.

mewkins · 10/06/2024 20:56

SOxon · 30/05/2024 23:10

there is a short interview on YT with Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward,
on being asked the secret to the longevity of their marriage - Joanne says

  • I know he is good looking and sexy and all that,
  • but if you want a happy marriage to last,make them laugh!
  • he is looking at her adoringly, sure in the knowledge
  • that he can indeed make her laugh, his marriage is safe

this bearing out what you said ^

as even one of the world’s most beautiful men still had to make an effort!

This is so true. I'd much rather a funny person than a dull, attractive one. Looks fade but a sense of humour is for life.

And yes I do know that attractive, funny people also exist.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/06/2024 21:05

This is so true. I'd much rather a funny person than a dull, attractive one. Looks fade but a sense of humour is for life.
**
And yes I do know that attractive, funny people also exist.”

Absolutely this. My whip smart husband is pretty useless physically. Makes me gutterally laugh daily. He’s life enhancing.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/06/2024 21:13

I was an attractive young woman but still taken aback when I was asked out at a party by a male model.
I accepted out of gobsmacking gratitude. Couldn’t believe that such a beautiful person would be interested in me!
I told him after two dates that it wasn’t working. He literally couldn’t walk past a shop window without checking himself out 🤣.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 10/06/2024 21:40

Gingerlad12345 · 10/06/2024 19:46

@5128gap she wont raise my kids, We will raise our kids together and help each other out. Lol yeah shes a great cook/bake but I can cook for myself also and when we do live together I have told her that we can take turns on who does the cooking.

Its funny how many of you women seem to think that my GF is "weak" just because she wants to be a mother (she told me this) and isnt one of these women who sleeps around and chases a degree which then end up in debt.

A lot of you women really dont understand what men actually find attractive do you? Because we will say things like "We dont want women who have slept around" but instead of trying to make yourself more attractive you'll just call a man "A sexist" for having preferences.

Im tall, athletic, Very hygenic, I use skincare products, I aint a drug or porn addict, I've never been to a strip club and I've never slept with a prostitute, career driven, have a good bit of money saved so me and my GF wont struggle financially. Guess what? The men like me dont want sluts, we dont want masculine women, we dont want to raise another mans child.

In fact thank fuck im off the dating market because most girls my age are just shit and aint worth it.

Ah here comes the slut shaming.

Career driven but doesn't understand how to use grammar or punctuation. Doesn't want his girlfriend to have a degree.

You sound such a catch, even if you're tall, atheltic and use skin care products.

durundundun · 10/06/2024 21:49

Gingerlad12345 · 10/06/2024 19:46

@5128gap she wont raise my kids, We will raise our kids together and help each other out. Lol yeah shes a great cook/bake but I can cook for myself also and when we do live together I have told her that we can take turns on who does the cooking.

Its funny how many of you women seem to think that my GF is "weak" just because she wants to be a mother (she told me this) and isnt one of these women who sleeps around and chases a degree which then end up in debt.

A lot of you women really dont understand what men actually find attractive do you? Because we will say things like "We dont want women who have slept around" but instead of trying to make yourself more attractive you'll just call a man "A sexist" for having preferences.

Im tall, athletic, Very hygenic, I use skincare products, I aint a drug or porn addict, I've never been to a strip club and I've never slept with a prostitute, career driven, have a good bit of money saved so me and my GF wont struggle financially. Guess what? The men like me dont want sluts, we dont want masculine women, we dont want to raise another mans child.

In fact thank fuck im off the dating market because most girls my age are just shit and aint worth it.

So what you wanted was an inexperienced, uneducated girl.

Gee. What a surprise.

IDespairOfTheHumanRace · 10/06/2024 22:09

Gingerlad12345 · 10/06/2024 19:46

@5128gap she wont raise my kids, We will raise our kids together and help each other out. Lol yeah shes a great cook/bake but I can cook for myself also and when we do live together I have told her that we can take turns on who does the cooking.

Its funny how many of you women seem to think that my GF is "weak" just because she wants to be a mother (she told me this) and isnt one of these women who sleeps around and chases a degree which then end up in debt.

A lot of you women really dont understand what men actually find attractive do you? Because we will say things like "We dont want women who have slept around" but instead of trying to make yourself more attractive you'll just call a man "A sexist" for having preferences.

Im tall, athletic, Very hygenic, I use skincare products, I aint a drug or porn addict, I've never been to a strip club and I've never slept with a prostitute, career driven, have a good bit of money saved so me and my GF wont struggle financially. Guess what? The men like me dont want sluts, we dont want masculine women, we dont want to raise another mans child.

In fact thank fuck im off the dating market because most girls my age are just shit and aint worth it.

Yuk! A million times yuk! Incel alert!

MidnightMeltdown · 10/06/2024 22:44

@Disturbia81

No of course it's not just physical. That's why I said that looks alone aren't enough. They are an important component in attraction though, at least to me.

Flipping it around, I couldn't be with someone who I wasn't physically attracted to, however amazing their personality is.

I have a couple of lovely male friends, who are clever, funny, and have great personalities. We click, and I love spending time with them, but I couldn't be in a relationship with them because the physical attraction just isn't there. I have thought about it before, because they are great in every other respect, but when it came down to it, I just couldn't do the physical intimacy stuff, not even kissing.

Some woman can overlook physical attractiveness, and that's great for them as they probably end up with a much better choice in partners, but I just can't do that.

I know it sounds really awful, but for me, any kind of intimacy with someone that I don't find physically attractive, gives me an automatic disgust reaction. I'm willing to accept that I might be unusual in this, as I tend to have a strong disgust reaction to all sorts of things (not just person related!).