Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Would you leave it all behind for love

213 replies

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 01:36

There’s a long story behind this, but I am curious to know what you would do.
if you had to give up your beloved little home, your financial security and comfort, the country you live in and have adopted happily as your own, for love - with someone who has demonstrated time and again that they love you and who you could see yourself having dc with, but who very struggles at times with their MH and is not well off financially - would you? For possibly true, once in a lifetime love?

I am not sure how much I can give up for the sake of love. But I am in my late 30s with some terribly unfulfilling relationships behind me and I know I would miss him terribly.

for various reasons, we cannot be together in this country and it is time limited.

wwyd?

OP posts:
Stickyricepudding · 09/04/2024 04:21

No I still wouldn't because the whole situation is on his terms and not yours. You can have a long distance relationship and see how it does. The only reason why he wants a relationship is because it's convenient to him.

He has planned it all out and is expecting you to follow and he hasn't considered the long term impact on you. I would hate any man who presented me with a choice like this. You would be giving up so much and only an arrogant man would expect a woman to give it all up under the con of true love.

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 04:34

He says long distance won’t work (we did it for a couple months at the start and then his lease was up and he moved closer to me) and he really wants to live with me.

OP posts:
AGodawfulsmallaffair · 09/04/2024 04:39

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 02:44

I think the issues that concern me in no particular order-

Traumatic childhood (really bad DV) which has left him with diagnosed ptsd

He Is 5 years sober from 15+ years of alcoholism

He has a self confessed eating disorder (binge eating and anorexia) which sometimes relapses

Only one previous relationship, a long marriage that he left shortly before he met me, though I do believe they were both checked out for some time before

No children by early 40s, though he desperately wants them

Has 2 degrees but does not have a career in either sector and has previously only worked manual type jobs for any length of time - he’s super smart but I think he is a big underachiever. He says he’s not materialistic and prioritises family and life balance over a big career. But this is v diffferent to my exH where we both had good jobs and no real money issues

he is very emotionally intense, think tons of love letters, wanting to spend loads of time together, get married quickly etc. At times it is overwhelming and I question how it can be genuine- I’m just a normal person.

He is very controlled about things like cleaning and organising and I am more laid back.

With my ex I had a very comfortable life and no big worries but I think despite my love and tendernsss for this man our relationship could bring me new kinds of worries. Like having kids with a man without a career and decent earning potential scares me. And what if he relapsed into alcoholism or had a MH crisis… I don’t know if I’d cope. And I don’t want to resent him above all for having to give up my life that I generally love.

Oh God no. His work is the least of it.

Calllalllama · 09/04/2024 04:42

I think you don’t want to go but all the talk of love and passion has you blindsided.
Why can’t you have a long distance relationship with him for a year if you can’t say no initially? This needs to be slowed down.
The love bombing is a red flag, the jealousy is a red flag and the addiction problems are a huge red flag. It does seem very risky to leave your support network for this man.

IAmThe1AndOnly · 09/04/2024 04:47

I’d go one further and say run for the hills now and don’t look back.

A binge eating controlling possessive alcoholic with OCD and PTSD with no career prospects, no future, and whose only way to find a love is lovebomb someone because no woman in her right mind would go near him.

This isn’t love. I promise you it isn’t. And there’s no such thing as a once in a lifetime love.

Don’t uproot your life for this man, and don’t for the love of God have children with him that he can damage in the same way he is.

You’ll miss him now because you’re used to the attention, but absence is a great tool to forget.

Don’t move with him. End the relationship now and don’t look back.

And in three-six months time you’ll see just what an unhealthy dynamic this is.

DoreenonTill8 · 09/04/2024 04:54

Oh yes!! All the red flags above!! I wonder if he'd still love you so MUCH!! If you suddenly shared his work ethic, so no longer had the current income you have?

Stickyricepudding · 09/04/2024 04:55

He is looking for a carer, not a long term relationship. Like I said previously, you are convenient for him and everything is on his terms. His symptoms indicate a wider neurodiverse condition which will have life long implications.

True love or once in a lifetime love is a con used by businesses & men to trap women into spending money & accepting shit situations. If a friend came to you with the same situation, what would you advise her to do?

JanglingJack · 09/04/2024 04:56

On the basis of everything you have said, absolutely no way.

Have you met him yet or is this an online thing?

Lion400 · 09/04/2024 04:58

As everyone has said, all the ‘red flags’ above. You sound like you’ve got a content life and location sorted for yourself right now. Please don’t mess it all up for this evidential loser.

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 05:00

@Stickyricepudding i have thought he may have ASD/ADHD for a few reasons and tbh worried that with his age our dc would be at risk of that. I feel like if he was “the one” I wouldn’t be questioning this so much!! It can be so lovely - but SOMETHING is holding me back and I put it down to fear of change but I actually feel like I’m being pushed out of the life I Love and that’s normal. It’s ok to want experiences, job, quality of life over a man and dc.. right?

OP posts:
CalmConfident · 09/04/2024 05:00

Absolutely no.

a lot of love bombing going on here and putting pressure on you. Nope. 👎

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 05:01

I feel shallow for worrying so much about the job thing but I am a hard worker and want a good life and all my friends have decent jobs and his attitude has been that he can live off passive income from his investments and do his hobby mainly FT which just doesn’t gel with other men I have dated or been married to. Even the bad ones. I don’t know how it would get better.

OP posts:
CalmConfident · 09/04/2024 05:05

It will not get better, sounds like a script for living off your hard earned security. The more you share the worse it gets.

wave him off. Have a little cry. Break it cleanly to make room in your life for the right person in due course in the wonderful place you are now. Be strong.

CalmConfident · 09/04/2024 05:07

out of curiosity, what is his FT hobby

Blueberry40 · 09/04/2024 05:07

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 05:00

@Stickyricepudding i have thought he may have ASD/ADHD for a few reasons and tbh worried that with his age our dc would be at risk of that. I feel like if he was “the one” I wouldn’t be questioning this so much!! It can be so lovely - but SOMETHING is holding me back and I put it down to fear of change but I actually feel like I’m being pushed out of the life I Love and that’s normal. It’s ok to want experiences, job, quality of life over a man and dc.. right?

Listen to your gut. Just because his visa is running out and he is in a rush doesn’t mean you have to rush this huge, life changing decision! If it’s meant to be, you could always go and join him further down the line. Realistically, you have too many doubts and concerns to make moving your life for him a wise thing to do right now.

My advice would be to take your time, don’t give in to the pressure to rush- uprooting your entire life when you’re in a pretty content place is a huge move and not something to do unless you’re 100% about this relationship.

Lion400 · 09/04/2024 05:11

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 05:01

I feel shallow for worrying so much about the job thing but I am a hard worker and want a good life and all my friends have decent jobs and his attitude has been that he can live off passive income from his investments and do his hobby mainly FT which just doesn’t gel with other men I have dated or been married to. Even the bad ones. I don’t know how it would get better.

his attitude has been that he can live off passive income from his investments and do his hobby mainly FT

Will his passive income also pay for a beautiful unmortgaged house for you both, all the bills, food, self care, holidays, car, going out etc?

If so then you could tell him you’d consider joining him in a year or so, when he’s sorted the house (with your name shared ownership on it) if you’re still together.

BananaLambo · 09/04/2024 05:13

You are not therapy for damaged men. This one has so many red flags he’s a one man carnival. As a starter for 10 he has:

Alcoholism
An eating disorder
PTSD
No job
Possessiveness
Controlling behaviours

YOU THE HILLS
O. RUUUUUUN ^
/ I. ———————>>>> ^ ^. ^^
I ^ ^. ^
/__

/\

Lolacoala · 09/04/2024 05:24

You’re doing a good job of talking yourself out of it - keep talking.

XelaM · 09/04/2024 05:26

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 02:44

I think the issues that concern me in no particular order-

Traumatic childhood (really bad DV) which has left him with diagnosed ptsd

He Is 5 years sober from 15+ years of alcoholism

He has a self confessed eating disorder (binge eating and anorexia) which sometimes relapses

Only one previous relationship, a long marriage that he left shortly before he met me, though I do believe they were both checked out for some time before

No children by early 40s, though he desperately wants them

Has 2 degrees but does not have a career in either sector and has previously only worked manual type jobs for any length of time - he’s super smart but I think he is a big underachiever. He says he’s not materialistic and prioritises family and life balance over a big career. But this is v diffferent to my exH where we both had good jobs and no real money issues

he is very emotionally intense, think tons of love letters, wanting to spend loads of time together, get married quickly etc. At times it is overwhelming and I question how it can be genuine- I’m just a normal person.

He is very controlled about things like cleaning and organising and I am more laid back.

With my ex I had a very comfortable life and no big worries but I think despite my love and tendernsss for this man our relationship could bring me new kinds of worries. Like having kids with a man without a career and decent earning potential scares me. And what if he relapsed into alcoholism or had a MH crisis… I don’t know if I’d cope. And I don’t want to resent him above all for having to give up my life that I generally love.

Omg no! Too many issues. Doesn't sound like you love him actually, but are settling.

However, if you want kids and are late 30's and he "desperately wants kids" maybe that's something to think about as time can get away from you. But don't give up anything for him.

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 05:30

Don’t want to say the exact hobby as I’d outing but it’s something creative.

ok lots to think about…

OP posts:
JamSandle · 09/04/2024 05:31

As you've gone into detail about him, I say no.

Try long distance for a while.

IAmThe1AndOnly · 09/04/2024 05:33

However, if you want kids and are late 30's and he "desperately wants kids" maybe that's something to think about as time can get away from you. But don't give up anything for him. no no no no no no no no.

This man isn’t relationship or father material. He has the potential to be abusive and damaging to any children.

Sorry but wanting children isn’t a good enough reason to have children with any bloke who comes along.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/04/2024 05:47

grannysmyth · 09/04/2024 05:30

Don’t want to say the exact hobby as I’d outing but it’s something creative.

ok lots to think about…

Oh no. He's not a muso is he? NO WAY.

Lion400 · 09/04/2024 05:56

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/04/2024 05:47

Oh no. He's not a muso is he? NO WAY.

😂 From the brilliant Tina Fey: A prayer for her daughter..

First, Lord: No tattoos. May neither Chinese symbol for truth nor Winnie-the-Pooh holding the FSU logo stain her tender haunches.

May she be Beautiful but not Damaged, for it’s the Damage that draws the creepy soccer coach’s eye, not the Beauty.
When the Crystal Meth is offered, May she remember the parents who cut her grapes in half and stick with Beer.

Guide her, protect her when crossing the street, stepping onto boats, swimming in the ocean, swimming in pools, walking near pools, standing on the subway platform, crossing 86th Street, stepping off of boats, using mall restrooms, getting on and off escalators, driving on country roads while arguing, leaning on large windows, walking in parking lots, riding Ferris wheels, roller-coasters, log flumes, or anything called “Hell Drop,” “Tower of Torture,” or “The Death Spiral Rock ‘N Zero G Roll featuring Aerosmith,” and standing on any kind of balcony ever, anywhere, at any age.

Lead her away from Acting but not all the way to Finance. Something where she can make her own hours but still feel intellectually fulfilled and get outside sometimes and not have to wear high heels.
What would that be, Lord? Architecture? Midwifery? Golf course design? I’m asking You, because if I knew, I’d be doing it, Youdammit.

May she play the Drums to the fiery rhythm of her Own Heart with the sinewy strength of her Own Arms, so she need Not Lie With Drummers.

Grant her a Rough Patch from twelve to seventeen. Let her draw horses and be interested in Barbies for much too long, For childhood is short – a Tiger Flower blooming Magenta for one day – And adulthood is long and dry-humping in cars will wait.

O Lord, break the Internet forever, That she may be spared the misspelled invective of her peers and the online marketing campaign for Rape Hostel V: Girls Just Wanna Get Stabbed.

And when she one day turns on me and calls me a Bitch in front of Hollister, Give me the strength, Lord, to yank her directly into a cab in front of her friends, For I will not have that Shit. I will not have it.

And should she choose to be a Mother one day, be my eyes, Lord, that I may see her, lying on a blanket on the floor at 4:50 A.M., all-at-once exhausted, bored, and in love with the little creature whose poop is leaking up its back.

“My mother did this for me once,” she will realize as she cleans feces off her baby’s neck. “My mother did this for me.” And the delayed gratitude will wash over her as it does each generation and she will make a Mental Note to call me. And she will forget.

But I’ll know, because I peeped it with Your God eyes.
Amen.