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Do I go along with my husband’s request?

188 replies

OliveWriter · 02/04/2024 11:21

Myself (38F) and my husband (44M) have been together 16 years. We have 2 children together (13 & 10). Our lives have always been busy but I thought our relationship was solid, he wasn’t just my husband but we were best friends too. I caught him having what is now described as an emotional affair 6 years ago, when I overheard him on a call during the middle of the night downstairs when I woke unexpectedly and it turned my life upside down. He had been drinking and when he sobered up the next day, he promised me, they had never met up, she lived in a different country, it was only something random that had happened on an online dating forum he had reactivated from before we were together, he was needing attention. He blamed it on pressures he was facing at work, secretly drinking too much and I was too busy with our children etc that made him reach out elsewhere and he was sorry. I could then see how damaged he was at the time, something completely out of the ordinary with him as he is such a strong hardworking person, however, I was destroyed but I couldn’t destroy my kids’ lives too so I just eventually carried on.

Things weren’t bad, he always treated me well, we have a lovely lifestyle, I gave up my career when our children were born as his took priority but I have full control over finances. With his type of job, I couldn’t work due to having to be there for our children without any support but I didn’t mind, my children are my life, I’m so grateful I get to raise them and be there watching them grow and know they can always depend on me. I loved him so much I tried to make things work but there was always that niggling in the back of my mind that I would doubt him, the trust was broken but my children adore him, he’s their role model and I would never change that.

Fast forward to present, things eventually came to a head a few months ago and I was told that he isn’t in love with me anymore, he loves me and always will, he loves what an amazing mum I am but again, he isn’t in love with me and that he isn’t physically attracted to me either, hence the non existent sex life which for the past few years I’ve had to ask for sex, which was humiliating but I wanted that intimacy. That crushed me. I asked was anyone else involved and he said there wasn’t. However, he’s now given me an option which is what he thinks would work. We are to separate but no one is to know so we can protect our children. So basically to the outside world we carry on as normal, the children have their parents together, they keep the lifestyle they are accustomed to, we attend things as a family and financially nothing changes. He will continue to work and provide for us all, but I’m not allowed to tell anyone that we aren’t together to protect our children.

I feel trapped as I can’t give my children the lives they have now as I couldn’t afford it financially without my husband’s support which would decrease if we separated properly. Having to sell our house would be the only option as I couldn’t afford it without him, I don’t want to cause them all that upheaval and upset. But I don’t know how I can cope knowing I’m secretly separated. Some days have been easier to cope with it than others but I can feel I’m losing myself, losing my genuine happiness and it’s a real effort to pretend. I feel I’m not doing right by my children pretending to be happy when I’m not but then I think of what I’d be able to provide them on my own and I know that would make me feel less happier as I would be failing them. I’m completely stuck and don’t know what to do. Maybe with time, I’ll eventually come to terms with it and it might become more bearable?

We rarely talk now unless it concerns the children, or the children are around as I try to stay out of his way. I’ve let some of the things I also did around the house slip but he’s stepped in and continues to do it without questioning. I know he can tell I’m not happy but he won’t talk or bring it up as I think he’s also afraid of rocking the boat.

I also know I’m distancing myself from my friends and family as I feel they’ll be able to tell by the way I act as I’m a very open person so I’m now intentionally distancing myself so they don’t work out something is wrong. What do I do, accept his offer and learn how to cope with it better until the children are older? As I’m assuming there will come a day when he decides they are old enough to cope with us separating properly. Or don’t accept his offer and openly separate now?

OP posts:
hackedoff123 · 02/04/2024 11:27

He is something else isn't he! If I were you, i’d walk away with my head held high. Your children will know something is up, they aren't daft. It will be miserable for them and you.

Your husband is trying to keep up appearances. Seek advice from a good divorce lawyer and leave. Your kids will thank you for it in the long run. Your husband as a bloody cheek x

CrunchingNumbers · 02/04/2024 11:29

Wowzer, lots to take in here, hugs to you OP.
Three quick things jump out at me:

  1. Chances are very high indeed that he's already in an affair.
  2. Is he allowing you to find comfort in the arms of someone else whilst 'separated'?
  3. It seems that he is suggesting keeping you on in the role of Housekeeper.
Nicebloomers · 02/04/2024 11:30

So he’s trying to have his cake and eat it?

Runnyyolkplease · 02/04/2024 11:31

What does his proposal mean in reality? It doesn’t sound like it would change anything for you - you’d be in the same house looking after the kids while he works, still be a lack of intimacy and no real relationship. I assume he thinks it would work for him to be separated as he can see who he likes/do as he pleases as you’re “separated”. I think you need to look at the alternative option of splitting and how it would work - how much would you get from sale of the house/what could you buy for that. Can you get a job so that you are not reliant on his money? Speak to a solicitor and see what you are dealing with.
i would worry less about the “stuff” the kids may not have in the future and more about modelling good relationships so that they don’t end up thinking this is normal.

MonsteraMama · 02/04/2024 11:33

So what he's actually asking for is your permission for him to carry on fucking the woman he is undoubtedly fucking, while playing the role of doting husband and father, and expecting you to be utterly miserable while upholding this charade?

I wonder how he'd feel if you decided you wanted to start an extramarital relationship of your own. Bet his tune would quickly change then. Selfish fucker.

Hard as it is, I really don't think having a trapped and miserable mother living a lie is what's best for your children.

Nicebloomers · 02/04/2024 11:34

MonsteraMama · 02/04/2024 11:33

So what he's actually asking for is your permission for him to carry on fucking the woman he is undoubtedly fucking, while playing the role of doting husband and father, and expecting you to be utterly miserable while upholding this charade?

I wonder how he'd feel if you decided you wanted to start an extramarital relationship of your own. Bet his tune would quickly change then. Selfish fucker.

Hard as it is, I really don't think having a trapped and miserable mother living a lie is what's best for your children.

i agree with this too

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 02/04/2024 11:35

He wants you to be his housekeeper while he is off with someone else.

When that doesn't work out then he's lost nothing because he will just slot back into being your husband again

He isn't protecting his kids, he's protecting himself.

You deserve better than living in this limbo.

MMadness · 02/04/2024 11:36

Fuck that.

Tell him you want to formally separate, but first try and gather all relevant financial paperwork.

He's taking the piss, don't be surprised if there's someone else on the side.

What are your return to work options?

AFmammaG · 02/04/2024 11:36

I would see a solicitor to understand my financial position in the event of separation. Knowledge is power. To be honest I wouldn’t pretend to be together but secretly be separated because of the children. At their ages they aren’t stupid and could possibly realise and then blame you for lying to them.

CrunchingNumbers · 02/04/2024 11:36

He isn't protecting his kids, he's protecting himself.

100% this.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 02/04/2024 11:39

MonsteraMama · 02/04/2024 11:33

So what he's actually asking for is your permission for him to carry on fucking the woman he is undoubtedly fucking, while playing the role of doting husband and father, and expecting you to be utterly miserable while upholding this charade?

I wonder how he'd feel if you decided you wanted to start an extramarital relationship of your own. Bet his tune would quickly change then. Selfish fucker.

Hard as it is, I really don't think having a trapped and miserable mother living a lie is what's best for your children.

This.

Leave. And if the kids ask questions (either now, or later down the line) make sure they know it wasn't due to any wrongdoing on your account.

EVHead · 02/04/2024 11:41

No. Fuck that.

Your children will think the way you live is normal, that that’s how relationships work. They will internalise your emotional distance from each other, and that will affect how they relate to other people all their lives.

Get a solicitor and work out how you can live without him.

Riverlee · 02/04/2024 11:42

Don’t let him dictate the terms.

it sounds like he has a hang-up about separation and/or divorce, hence the facade of carrying on as normal.

is he still planning to live in the family home? Won’t the kids notice he’s sleeping in another room or does he still plan to share a bed?

This new situation isn’t working as you’re already distancing yourself from family and friends. It’s making you miserable.

You don’t have to make any major decesions straight away. However, make your plans behind his back, investigate what’s available to you etc, and take control of the situation.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 02/04/2024 11:42

MonsteraMama · 02/04/2024 11:33

So what he's actually asking for is your permission for him to carry on fucking the woman he is undoubtedly fucking, while playing the role of doting husband and father, and expecting you to be utterly miserable while upholding this charade?

I wonder how he'd feel if you decided you wanted to start an extramarital relationship of your own. Bet his tune would quickly change then. Selfish fucker.

Hard as it is, I really don't think having a trapped and miserable mother living a lie is what's best for your children.

This. Staying in this situation will completely destroy your mental health and your sense of self worth. Start quitely getting your ducks in a row then when you're ready tell him to fuck off with his nasty self serving offer.

AgentProvocateur · 02/04/2024 11:46

I guarantee he’s seeing someone else, and wants you to continue in your role of housekeeper and nanny so that he doesn’t have to forego every second weekend with his lover to look after his kids. You need to see a lawyer and find out what you’d be entitled to, get rid of your useless husband and start again. And think about getting your skills up to date, because you’ll need to get a job too.

mummymeister · 02/04/2024 11:48

Ah he is just following "the script" . all men who cheat do it they think they are unique and special but they arent. this is how it always goes: they cheat they get tfound out and say they never did anything. then they pull the old - dont love you any more dont fancy you etc line. bullshit. He is having an affair with someone else but this is a man who wants to have his cake and eat it. he still has a home and someone to do all the chores. he gets to play dad when he wants to (only on his terms of course) but he also has the thrill of an affair. He is lying to you and he is conning you.

CrunchingNumbers · 02/04/2024 11:49

So, to reiterate, the answer to the question in your thread title, OP, is a solid FECK NO!

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 02/04/2024 11:50

Yeah he's definitely suggesting this for his benefit, not yours and not the kids. Sounds like he's a high earner? He's probably had legal advice that means waiting til the kids are 18 will enable him to retain more of his pension and the house, and avoid spousal maintenance.

How easy would it be for you to return to your previous career? Or would you need to retrain? If the latter, I'd probably pretend to go along with it for now, get trained, get yourself in work, and then separate.

Rainbow1901 · 02/04/2024 11:51

There's a lot to take in OP so take your time to think about it all. Start out by beginning to come independent from him but on your terms. Go find a job first - your kids are not so young that you can't find a part time job somewhere and begin to build a life separate from your DH even if still living together.
Plenty of couples still live together after splitting and as long as it's not acrimonious, there's no reason why you couldn't have a fairly happy life. Your DH is calling the narrative here and you could go along with it except to say that you will not lie!! If someone asks - you will tell them the truth and will never lie on his behalf just so he looks good!! Liars have to have good memories and you could trip yourself up here - if you don't tell the truth.
He is really coercing you in to going along with his idea just so you can maintain the status quo - which is in this case financial abuse!
It's a hard call and he isn't even allowing you to talk to anyone to help you digest what is going on. He wants to have his cake and eat it but can only have this when you are clear in own head about where you stand in all this.
So string him along and don't be forced into his restricted time frame - sort things out in your own time and then you will have the life you will be happy in. You could quite happily mosy along for a couple of years while you create a life that you want so that you can turn round one day and say time I took off love!! and then go!! He's being selfish - so you do the same!!

Bumblebeeinatree · 02/04/2024 11:53

This happened to a friend of mine she and her H split up but stayed in the house with their DCs. I think mainly for financial reasons, however she told everyone what was happening, so she didn't have to pretend and play happy families. Maybe suggest a more open split while staying in the house together, say you can't cope with the dishonesty, which seems to be true.

YouveGotAFastCar · 02/04/2024 11:54

What happens when one of you meets someone else? I mean, it sounds like he already has, but what happens when she wants to go on holiday with him/meet the kids/come out of the shadows?

He's essentially broken up with you, but without allowing you any of the anger or support you'd get from friends and family.

It sounds like you've tried really hard to create and maintain a lovely life for your girls, and they've really benefitted from having you so close, but that's over now. Whether it's now, or in 3 months time when he blindsides you again, the children will find out, as with the world.

And incase you're still worrying - having a trapped, miserable and disconnected mother isn't what is best for your children now. It really isn't.

Lampzade · 02/04/2024 11:55

MonsteraMama · 02/04/2024 11:33

So what he's actually asking for is your permission for him to carry on fucking the woman he is undoubtedly fucking, while playing the role of doting husband and father, and expecting you to be utterly miserable while upholding this charade?

I wonder how he'd feel if you decided you wanted to start an extramarital relationship of your own. Bet his tune would quickly change then. Selfish fucker.

Hard as it is, I really don't think having a trapped and miserable mother living a lie is what's best for your children.

All of this.
He is taking the piss
He is sleeping with someone else but wants you to stay at home be the dutiful mother and wife in order to keep up appearances.
He has laid his cards out on the table so it is up to you to decide whether you can put up with remaining in a loveless, sexless marriage while he continues to screw around with other women

Celynfour · 02/04/2024 11:55

Try not to let him take this self serving action .
You are not a housekeeper . If you allow this to continue , you will find yourself divorced anyway and with a smaller financial settlement because the children are no longer dependants .
continuing with this charade will leave you with a diminishing ability to be independent .

Knittedfairies2 · 02/04/2024 11:55

Don't do it. As hard as it would be now to separate, just imagine the conversation you would have to have with your children when, not if, the truth comes out.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 02/04/2024 11:56

Quick answer is no.
I actually know someone who went along with this for just a short while "so as not to upset the kids".
Well those kids were completely fucked up for years. And I'm sorry to say this, but your life as it is must be miserable and already affecting them.
How can it not when what they see is hidden pain and misery and abuse dressed up as a normal healthy relationship?