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I forgave the unforgivable and now I'm not okay

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DooveyDay · 01/04/2024 11:07

Some years ago in the early-ish stages of our relationship, my partner had an affair that lasted several months. I will not tell the whole story here as it would be too long to read and probably doesn't add much value, but it involved a high degree of betrayal and humiliation.

At the time, and for a long time afterwards, I think it was impossible for me to process mentally that it was all real. I believed myself to be particularly cherished by him (he always said he was lunching above his weight) and this wasn't behavior I predicted from his general character.

As I said, it was early-ish days of our relationship. We were not married, we were not living together, we had no children, we had no financial links. Had he wanted to be in a relationship with the other woman rather than me, it certainly would have been easy to do so. She said she was in love with him.

However, he was adamant that he loved me and not her, and that he'd never wanted a relationship with her. He said it was a terrible mistake that just happened after a series of bad choices. He said I was the love of his life and he begged me to give him a second chance because the thought of life without me in it was unbearable. So, I did.

Had the story ended there, I think I would have healed up from this and we'd have gone on to be happy, but the immediate aftermath in the first six months after discovery was horrific and I think far worse than the cheating itself.

Firstly, it was obvious that he grieved the loss of the affair and found it difficult to let go of it. He made excuses to break his NC agreement and betrayed me over and over again during the time period he was supposed to be helping me heal. There were also times I briefly felt he wanted her and not me, that he was happier with her than me, although he denied this adamantly.

I can see now that his behavior over that period of time caused very deep psychological damage to me. It changed me in way I couldn't see at the time because I was just trying to survive it and make it stop rather than analysing much. Each time I tried to leave he would cry and beg and I would go back on new promises that were broken every time.

Eventually, he turned things around.

He worked with her, so he left his job for my sake and has never had contact with her since. He says now that she is irrelevant to him but that for a brief time he was addicted in a sense to the free adoration she gave him in the false world of the affair. He said it was never love, but more a desire to be admired and approved of and made to feel good in some way.

He stopped drinking completely and took up a lot of couples hobbies with me. He voluntarily changed a lot of things to create security for me, emotionally and in the wider scheme of life. He has spent many years being the perfect partner really, and if not for the history I would feel cherished and very lucky.

As a result of all that happened, I have dealt with hideous depression. I have cut myself off socially. I gave up my once much-loved work. I lost all confidence in myself as a person in more or less every aspect of my life. I have deep issues with trusting others or being vulnerable. I lost my interest in sex almost completely. For me, it feels like my life story ended some time ago and I am just going through the motions.

Through this, he is a rock and pillar. He dotes on me and there isn't anything I could ask for that he does not give. It doesn't matter how bad I feel, he is always there. The life he has given me now is exactly the one I always dreamed of and wanted and yet I cannot shake the pain and sadness that makes me feel like a stranger in it.

Not a day goes by that I don't struggle to understand how he once treated me so cruelly. I don't understand why he did it, why he wanted to do it, or how he was capable of it. He is unable to really explain that to me. He only promises he regrets ever minute of it, he will never leave and he will never harm me again.

I fantasise sometimes about packing a bag and disappearing so nobody has to come near me again. I feel so sad that anybody, let alone him, did things which changed me like this. I also feel bad and guilty that I haven't just "moved on".

I really don't know what to do.

I just wanted to know really if this is something anyone else has ever felt? I feel very alone.

OP posts:
Lenax · 01/04/2024 11:19

Hello, I can understand where you're coming from, I also discovered that after deciding to stay and being consumed with an all encompassing rage and anger, it would have been far easier to have left in the long run as I would have moved on. I'm totally fine now and don't regret staying, but I understand had I left, I would have healed much faster. Make sure you look after yourself and stay true to doing what's best for you

Opentooffers · 01/04/2024 11:22

The situation you find yourself in now was about clinging onto him from the start. If you don't stick to your boundaries at the start, when connection is less, you are not going to be a person who will walk away down the line, so the long road ahead is inevitable. Are you married with DC's now? Unfortunately, if early found infidelity is not enough to put you off a person, then your bar is low from the start.

EcstaticMarmalade · 01/04/2024 11:23

Difficult to heal in the same place you are hurt.

mrschocolatte · 01/04/2024 11:24

I’m so sorry OP, you sound desperately unhappy and traumatised by the early years of this relationship. It is a lonely place to be. Have you ever spoken to someone about what happened to help you come to terms with it? If you haven’t, I really think you would benefit from professional support to help you unpick this and your responses to what happened? The answers won’t come from your partner as it may well be true that they can never give an explanation that makes sense to you. There are much deeper things going on with you that are preventing you from accepting and letting yourself enjoy life and be happy again. I hope this does happen for you.

Bluefell · 01/04/2024 11:26

Do you have kids now? If not I’d leave without a second thought. If you do then I’d probably still leave - he doesn’t love you.

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 01/04/2024 11:30

Dump him and enjoy life. No boyfriend on earth is worth a smidgen of this. No discussion or listening to his drivel, just inform him the relationship is not enhancing your life, is not enjoyable, and you don't find him attractive.

There's a whole world out there.

Seaoftroubles · 01/04/2024 11:32

OP, if you haven't already had some counselling then please seek therapy to help you deal with this trauma.No man is worth ruining your life over and causing such misery, you need professional support and advice to help you recover from this betrayal.

EveryKneeShallBow · 01/04/2024 11:35

I think you’ve given it the best shot, but proved that it’s not as simple as taking him back and agreeing to move on. I suspect that you will end up leaving, and probably better ripping the plaster off than going on. But, if you feel it needs a final try, maybe you could get some couples counselling to see if it helps?

NearlyBritishSummertimeYay · 01/04/2024 11:38

You're still 'allowed' to leave now if you want to. A lot of women feel that once they've made their decision to stay, that's it. It's not.

what he's like now, doesn't change what he was like then.

i 'tried' for two years & it was far worse than finding out about the cheating (it wasn't an affair, he slept with his ex)

The trying was soul destroying.

if you stay you need to get therapy.

don't throw away your future happiness because you've been together so long!

DooveyDay · 01/04/2024 11:38

We do not have children, nor will we. I have a grown up child already and no desire for more.

We have two homes now. A city flat and a country house. I found us the most isolated country house imaginable. I am increasingly making excuses for spending time in the week there because the solitude somehow feels more comfortable.

I know he is sad that I am not always with him, and I feel bad about that, but when you feel so depressed being around others can feel like work. Do I want to go to a comedy night? Do I want to come to his work dinner? Should my Mum pop into the city for lunch? The answer to all of these is "no", I want to be unconscious. I know people are making an effort but I just don't feel like I can experience fun or joy.

When I am alone, I don't need to get dressed or control when I cry. I can just stare at the wall without anyone feeling bad or guilty. I can go round and round the loop of trauma endlessly, because for me, time never moved on. I am stuck, always there and my brain doesn't seem to make new memories.

I have cut off all my friends. A few have taken it personally, or accused me of "ghosting" them. I feel some kind of illogical sense of betrayal that when this was all happening to me I felt so alone. That's more than likely completely irrational, but I felt completely alone.

I also feel completely ashamed this happened to me. As a posted immediately commented above, "you have a low bar". Of course, staying with someone who cheated on you comes with a great weight of shame and I am now someone sad, with a very low bar it seems.

Whoever said he cannot answer these questions is right. No person and no book and no philosophy will ever be able to explain to me why the person who loves me the most in the world, who now can't bear to see me suffer even the mildest discomfort once did these things to me. An answer to that question doesn't exist. It makes no sense. Other than "he doesn't really love you", and what good does believing that do?

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FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 01/04/2024 11:41

The good it will do is getting you to dump him. He's not boyfriend material.
Focus entirely on yourself, what you want from your one life, what your future will be like, free of this worthless man.

Fizzadora · 01/04/2024 11:41

You should leave. There is absolutely no point to being with him if you still feel this way and you clearly cannot get over it.

Ofcourseshecan · 01/04/2024 11:44

OP, please see your GP about this, and seek professional counselling. You sound seriously depressed. Don’t let if drag on and drag you further down.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 01/04/2024 11:45

Are you married now to him ?

DooveyDay · 01/04/2024 11:45

As for the suggestions of leaving - I have considered that many times, but mainly for his sake. I'd like him to go on and have a happy life, the life we were perhaps meant to have had, with someone who is not broken inside. I feel quite sad and guilty sometimes that I am a burden of sorts, which he adamantly denies. He says I am beautiful and kind and funny and that he is miserable if I am not around. I don't understand this at all.

For my own sake, leaving him wouldn't make any difference. I'd never, ever, ever trust another person again or let them anywhere near me. And I don't mean men, I mean human being entirely. I would just live in complete solitude in the middle of nowhere and see my grown up son when he visits.

At the moment, my partner forces me to get up, go out, go to family things, keep up hobbies, take reasonable care of my health and were he gone I am absolutely certain I would no longer do those things. So there isn't really a bit of me that thinks leaving him would be good for me on some level. He isn't the problem, this is some sort of problem inside me.

He says I have PTSD. He wants me to go to Yoga. He says he will take me. He wants me to see the doctor. He is endlessly patient, but I feel guilty because I am not sure it's possible to fix what has been broken.

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category12 · 01/04/2024 11:45

What help are you getting for your depression?

I think what you need to do is some (more) therapy and give yourself permission to leave the relationship.

It doesn't matter how well he treats you now, or what changes he's made or how much time has passed - it's OK to go "you know what, I've tried, it's not working" and change your life.

category12 · 01/04/2024 11:48

The hopelessness, thinking nothing can ever change for you and you'll always feel this way are part of the depression - but depression lies.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 01/04/2024 11:49

I think you probably need therapy but also to leave him.

For what it’s worth I worked with a woman whose husband cheated on her with her best friend and she didn’t trust people at all. So I can understand why you feel the way you do.

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 11:49

It sounds like he can’t do any more to show you he loves you and make amends. The next steps are for you to look internally at how you can heal and move forward.

DooveyDay · 01/04/2024 11:49

@category12 I am not getting any help or doing anything. Partly because I don't have any motivation to, and partly because I don't really see it as depression (although I use that word). I feel like I am just reacting to very real things that happened and which changed the meaning of the world to me. I don't have a concept of how therapy or medicine would change that. Sorry if I sound bloody negative.

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thisoldcity · 01/04/2024 11:50

Please see your GP and get some help for this depression.

DooveyDay · 01/04/2024 11:52

StormingNorman · 01/04/2024 11:49

It sounds like he can’t do any more to show you he loves you and make amends. The next steps are for you to look internally at how you can heal and move forward.

This is what he says StormingNorman, and on some level I know this is right. I just feel unable to do that. I wish there was some way to describe how it felt, but there isn't. I wonder if on some level, "healing and moving forward" means opening myself up to the possibility of someone hurting me this way again.

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3pancakesplz · 01/04/2024 11:54

Op I think you definitely need to speak to a dr aswell as a therapist.

you haven’t said how long ago the affair happened? I know you said early days of the relationship but when was that?

im not putting a time line on dealing with an affair, but I get the impression from your posts that it was years ago? If so, I don’t think you’ve moved on what so ever and this isn’t a healthy way to live. For anybody.

he sounds extremely apologetic and remorseful. I’m not excusing any affairs but unfortunately sometimes people make awful mistakes. But we can move past them if you truly want to, but that often means reaching out for help and I honestly think you need to.

you get one life. Please don’t spend it like this.

Hermittrismegistus · 01/04/2024 12:00

You will never be able to process and move forward with your emotions when you are still tied to him. He hurt you too much. It's like being faced with the dagger that stabbed you every day.

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