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I forgave the unforgivable and now I'm not okay

239 replies

DooveyDay · 01/04/2024 11:07

Some years ago in the early-ish stages of our relationship, my partner had an affair that lasted several months. I will not tell the whole story here as it would be too long to read and probably doesn't add much value, but it involved a high degree of betrayal and humiliation.

At the time, and for a long time afterwards, I think it was impossible for me to process mentally that it was all real. I believed myself to be particularly cherished by him (he always said he was lunching above his weight) and this wasn't behavior I predicted from his general character.

As I said, it was early-ish days of our relationship. We were not married, we were not living together, we had no children, we had no financial links. Had he wanted to be in a relationship with the other woman rather than me, it certainly would have been easy to do so. She said she was in love with him.

However, he was adamant that he loved me and not her, and that he'd never wanted a relationship with her. He said it was a terrible mistake that just happened after a series of bad choices. He said I was the love of his life and he begged me to give him a second chance because the thought of life without me in it was unbearable. So, I did.

Had the story ended there, I think I would have healed up from this and we'd have gone on to be happy, but the immediate aftermath in the first six months after discovery was horrific and I think far worse than the cheating itself.

Firstly, it was obvious that he grieved the loss of the affair and found it difficult to let go of it. He made excuses to break his NC agreement and betrayed me over and over again during the time period he was supposed to be helping me heal. There were also times I briefly felt he wanted her and not me, that he was happier with her than me, although he denied this adamantly.

I can see now that his behavior over that period of time caused very deep psychological damage to me. It changed me in way I couldn't see at the time because I was just trying to survive it and make it stop rather than analysing much. Each time I tried to leave he would cry and beg and I would go back on new promises that were broken every time.

Eventually, he turned things around.

He worked with her, so he left his job for my sake and has never had contact with her since. He says now that she is irrelevant to him but that for a brief time he was addicted in a sense to the free adoration she gave him in the false world of the affair. He said it was never love, but more a desire to be admired and approved of and made to feel good in some way.

He stopped drinking completely and took up a lot of couples hobbies with me. He voluntarily changed a lot of things to create security for me, emotionally and in the wider scheme of life. He has spent many years being the perfect partner really, and if not for the history I would feel cherished and very lucky.

As a result of all that happened, I have dealt with hideous depression. I have cut myself off socially. I gave up my once much-loved work. I lost all confidence in myself as a person in more or less every aspect of my life. I have deep issues with trusting others or being vulnerable. I lost my interest in sex almost completely. For me, it feels like my life story ended some time ago and I am just going through the motions.

Through this, he is a rock and pillar. He dotes on me and there isn't anything I could ask for that he does not give. It doesn't matter how bad I feel, he is always there. The life he has given me now is exactly the one I always dreamed of and wanted and yet I cannot shake the pain and sadness that makes me feel like a stranger in it.

Not a day goes by that I don't struggle to understand how he once treated me so cruelly. I don't understand why he did it, why he wanted to do it, or how he was capable of it. He is unable to really explain that to me. He only promises he regrets ever minute of it, he will never leave and he will never harm me again.

I fantasise sometimes about packing a bag and disappearing so nobody has to come near me again. I feel so sad that anybody, let alone him, did things which changed me like this. I also feel bad and guilty that I haven't just "moved on".

I really don't know what to do.

I just wanted to know really if this is something anyone else has ever felt? I feel very alone.

OP posts:
ZsaZsaTheCat · 01/04/2024 13:20

I could have written this myself decoy this happened after our 1st child arrived. The poster who said your bar is low is very cruel and is just not worth listening to. You loved him, he let you down, you took him back. The difference between you and I is that I had counselling to deal with the trauma.
I found the following helpful;

1/ You will never get back what you had, it is gone. You have to start again with the same person, older and wiser. Make new memories.

2/ If it was you who had cheated and were genuinely sorry, would you want another chance?

I hope therapy will help you one way or another 💛

CrunchingNumbers · 01/04/2024 13:22

This resonates hugely with me, I feel for you OP.

UAvoidUrProblems · 01/04/2024 13:27

I'm so sorry OP. I would just leave.

Quartz2208 · 01/04/2024 13:28

OP you need to seek help, given your age the first thing I would do is get aGP appointment menopause abd depression are linked as are both with vitamin D deficiency (and others) getting the physical side checked is vital as none of this sounds like what you would see to be you as a person - the trauma you went through can definitely be linked to all of this
then as well seek some counselling

Craftier · 01/04/2024 13:28

As for the suggestions of leaving - I have considered that many times, but mainly for his sake. I'd like him to go on and have a happy life, the life we were perhaps meant to have had, with someone who is not broken inside. I feel quite sad and guilty sometimes that I am a burden of sorts, which he adamantly denies. He says I am beautiful and kind and funny and that he is miserable if I am not around. I don't understand this at all.

It's so sad that he's the one who has done this to you but you feel you're not good enough for him.

He doesn't deserve you. Therapy has to be worth a go.

Frisate · 01/04/2024 13:33

You are in the depths of depression OP, and depression is the biggest liar. Please get help, things can only get better from here and they will if you seek help. There’s a world out there and if you take the first step to get help, you’ll know happiness again. Ignore the judgemental/unhelpful comments and focus on yourself. You will rebuild your life yet.

Blueblell · 01/04/2024 13:34

Don’t take this the wrong way, but is it possible there is more to this than the affair. Another poster mentioned menopause, is it worth getting some blood tests to see if there is any underlying cause that is making you feel so dreadful and perhaps amplifying your feelings about the affair.

AtrociousCircumstance · 01/04/2024 13:35

It’s selfish of him to pressurise you to stay. It’s clear the relationship is crushing you. Oh, but he’d be too miserable if you left. So, you stay. And you are in abject misery.

Please leave OP - for yourself, not him. You matter.

MzHz · 01/04/2024 13:40

Half of me says if you’re married, divorce him and keep the house

but that’s probably not feasible.

it does sound as if he truly has see what he did to you and now IS sincere and stable in his love for you

I think it’s absolutely probable that you’re subconsciously pushing him away so that you can say “see… told you I’m unlovable”

you’re not, that comment about depression lying absolutely nails it.

I’ve skim read so not sure if you’re getting therapy, but if not, I absolutely recommend it. That or Hypno

if you’re in North Hampshire by any chance, let me know and I’ll send you some recommendations.

please fight for yourself, this life you lead isn’t contentment, it’s small and sad and lonely. I’ve been there too and it just gets smaller, and sadder and lonlier.

if you are near me, let me know x

tara66 · 01/04/2024 13:46

Dear OP - we only have one life - which actually seems quite short when you get to my age. We have to endure it and make the best of it whatever comes our way.
Many are worse off than you -as you know.
There is no point in wallowing in despair and self pity for a long time. What does it achieve? You need to have a strong word with yourself. You need to either forgive DH or leave him. You are doing neither, which does neither of you any good carrying on as you are.
You seem to now have a medical condition - called depression.
You might as well get help from doctors for it what ever you decide to do.

pickledandpuzzled · 01/04/2024 13:46

I agree with @AtrociousCircumstance

He has taken a strong resilient woman as turned her into a shadow of herself, now effectively controlling her through love bombing and gifts he won’t let you leave. Won’t let you be yourself.

You sound in a seriously low place and I have two suggestions I want you to seriously consider-

See the GP. Make sure you are physically well and consider antidepressants to tide you over while you recover.

Separate until you are ready to try again. Choose someone to check in with- your adult child or a friend- so your partner and you yourself know you are ok. Then take the time and space away from him to think about how you are and what you want. Do therapy, do EMDR. It seems to me he is actively preventing your recovery with all the attentiveness. It’s become a you problem when it’s actually a him problem. He’s trying to buy his way out of responsibility for what he did.

Hagpie · 01/04/2024 13:46

OP the more the reply to us the less I feel that is about your husband. This is about you and your depression. It’s hooked into the affair and tells you all these bad things about yourself but as a pp said…. depression lies!

Please go to the GP my love. You know it’s bad now but you’ll only find out how bad it got when you get better. My partner gets therapy at £220 a month and it has changed his life. Could you do that? He leave the house without me, he has friends, he looks after himself. I want that happiness for you please please please please go.

BirthdayRainbow · 01/04/2024 13:46

EcstaticMarmalade · 01/04/2024 11:23

Difficult to heal in the same place you are hurt.

This.

one of the most profound things I have read on here.

CollagenQueen · 01/04/2024 13:50

Do you want to live the rest of your life like this? I am assuming not. What's that saying...."Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results".

I think it's time to give yourself a shake and make some moves for change. See the GP as a first. You owe it to yourself, and to your son (and future grandchildren) to pull yourself out of this pity party, and to get back into the land of the living.

That could be leaving him or not - but this thing that you're in cannot continue.

I say this with kindness, because I do empathise with you. My first H did the same to me. We had been together for 16 years, very happy, 2 children, lovely home, fancy cars, nice holidays, good sex life....nothing was wrong....however, I found out that he had multiple OW. The betrayal was hard to bear. He even had sex with my best friend. He promised to change, and like you, I tried to save the relationship. The difference though, was that unlike your Partner, he did not change at all. He continued to cheat and lie. It took me four years to muster up the strength to leave him. When I did, none of my friends called to see how I was, or offer a shoulder to cry on. And his whole family, who I had been close to for 20 years, disowned me because "he had just been having fun, whereas I was breaking up a family". So, a lot of betrayals there, from lots of people.

But, you know what, you can't tar everyone with the same brush. I launched myself into dating, and I am now married to the most lovely man. BUT yes, the trauma is hard to shake. I find myself (sometimes) thinking that my now DH will do the same. It's been 16 years, and he's never put a foot wrong, but the fear is always present. But that would be 1% of my life really. The other 99% is happy and fulfilled.

Sorry, I'm rambling somewhat. I think my key points are that you absolutely can and must trust other people. There are truly wonderful people around and you are cutting yourself off from meeting them. FWIW, I actually think that your partner was a bit fucked up at the start of your relationship, he made a mistake which he has spent 4 years trying to make up for, and I think there's something worth saving there. But you have to do that in a happy way, grasp life again, and stop wallowing in this pit of despair, which is good for no one.

You don't say how old you are, but with an adult son, I'm presuming you could be menopausal - that could be hugely contributing to your state of mind.

Get some anti-depressants and start from there. I'd also book a nice holiday and get out of that comfort zone. Give yourself something to look forward to. Where have you always wanted to go? Open up your horizons and fill your days. Sitting in a country house all alone, and staring at the 4 walls would drive anyone mad, and it's allowing you to just fester.

Today's job - call the GP and get an appointment.

BirthdayRainbow · 01/04/2024 13:51

There are some things that can never be made right.

My h had an affair and I stayed. We were eight years on from him telling me when he said something and that was it, I was done. But it took a few months to really process it, talk to a therapist and come to the conclusion what he said was not okay and our marriage was not saveable. If he hadn't had the affair and had said what he did the marriage would have been over. I'm making the point the leaving wasn't the affair.

I am devastated, but not at losing him.

You can leave. You should leave. You will become a whole new person when you do and you have to make that choice as doing what you are now, nothing will ever change for you.

Give yourself a chance. Leave him.

PurpleFlower1983 · 01/04/2024 13:53

OP, you do need to leave. I had a similar experience with an ex although mine was a repeat offender in the cheating department. You never get over the trauma unless you move away from it. You deserve better and happiness is out there. I was with mine for 9 years and I spent the last 3 trying to work out how to leave. It eventually happened and I did what I never thought I would and stuck to my guns. I met my husband around a year later and honestly I did not know what it was to be like in a fully trusting relationship. It took me a couple of years to get through my demons from my ex but now I am so happy and you could be too.

Notinthemood12 · 01/04/2024 13:54

The depression sounds awful, complicated by the fact it was triggered by relational trauma. I would seek therapy privately if at all possible, for you, without pressure to decide on the relationship. Once the fog lifts then assess where you are at

Jennyjojo5 · 01/04/2024 13:55

Sometimes love just isn’t enough to stay for

Nicole1111 · 01/04/2024 14:01

You need to seek treatment as a matter or urgency. Talk to your doctor about medication and find a therapist to have regular talking therapy but also uses cbt. No one should have to live like this. Don’t sentence yourself a lifetime of misery.

CoconutAirways · 01/04/2024 14:01

It was sex . That's all it was sex and an ego boost .

Pinkdelight3 · 01/04/2024 14:02

category12 · 01/04/2024 11:48

The hopelessness, thinking nothing can ever change for you and you'll always feel this way are part of the depression - but depression lies.

Absolutely this. You think you've got it all analysed and this is the truth about you, how it was and how will always be, but it's distorted through the lens of the very serious depression and needs proper treatment and unpicking so you can start to live again. I'm not excusing what he did but you've built a certain narrative around it that is hugely unhealthy and it can absolutely be changed.

BethDawn · 01/04/2024 14:03

Honestly, I would leave him. Simply because I knew a man like this. He made all the same promises, said all the same things, and yet was continuing to see affair partners throughout the time he was rebuilding the broken relationship with his primary partner.

After seeing that, I just would not trust a man like that again. They are master deceivers and manipulators, they live their lives through a persona they have created to attract women ( the nice, genuine guy). It’s not just the sex with guys like this. They are addicted to the adoration, to these relationships of mutual emotional inter-dependence. He was cruel to you, and he was cruel to the other woman too. He used her, behaved in a way to cause her to love him, for his own kicks.

He’s not a good guy. He knows what to say and do, but I suspect that deep down, you know he’s not a good guy too.

Samanabanana · 01/04/2024 14:05

What he did to you was awful. But only you have the power to make this better - whether you stay in the relationship or not. Being this miserable and not seeking help has become an active choice for you and you've gotten yourself trapped in these feelings. Life's too short to carry on like this and you're punishing nobody but yourself. There are no answers to the questions you have so you have to decided to carry on, in which ever direction you can bare. Good luck Flowers

taylorswift1989 · 01/04/2024 14:07

I'm so sorry this happened to you, OP.

No one deserves to be betrayed and humiliated as you were.

And I'm sorry, but people don't change. Someone who is capable of systematically breaking down your self-esteem, social networks, and love of life is not going to suddenly see the light and become a good person.

It seems to me that he has simply engaged upon a long campaign of gaslighting and manipulation in which he is the best partner ever and you're the broken one.

The truth is the other way around.

I agree with pp. GP, therapy, and LTB.

CJsGoldfish · 01/04/2024 14:08

How early in the relationship OP? Why would you not just leave if it was a newish one? I'm not excusing HIS behaviour, and honestly, his justifications sound shit, but surely it's not normal behaviour either to overlook that kind of stuff early in a relationship, let alone stick around to go through what you described for SIX months afterwards? A lot of the posts sharing others stories are from relationships that were years in.
I think that focusing on the fact that you believe he 'did this to you' risks you missing other issues that may be present. You need to seek some help because you don't have to feel this way. Surely you know this?
He can't pay penance forever, surely? Nothing about this relationship screams 'healthy'. For either of you. He was an arse but you were in a new relationship with NO ties to him and you made the choice to put up with his crap. You seem to be stuck in these roles you've both taken on but It's not sustainable. I hope you can work on yourself and find the strength and self awareness that you seem to have lost