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Blocked after an intimate video call and now I'm panicking

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Worriedashell84 · 30/03/2024 07:18

So I got talking to a foreign guy on a dating site 2 weeks ago, a mixture of video calls and phone calls. There was never anything sexual the whole 2 weeks and in fact we were talking about lots of different things, like music , the meaning of life etc. He never once tried to get me to take my top off or anything the whole time. We were chatting most days as well.
However in the last video call, a couple of nights ago, things turned sexual. The app we used is end to end encrypted however in hindsight I'm now panicking that he video recorded it or has screenshotted stuff, especially now that he has blocked me.
I never took my bra or pants off , but I did show him my breasts a bit with my bra on ( I tried not to show my face in that but I can't be sure) and I did show my hand touching underneath my underwear a bit but obviously my face isn't in it.

At most there might be a picture of me with my bra on but showing my breasts and I also didn't show them both at the one time, if he has screenshotted that part.
I should say he was very aroused during the call and actually came during it. He also showed himself down there fully erect and coming. (Sorry if tmi, just trying to get all context in)
If it's a case where he realizes he just didn't fancy me and has blocked me, then fine, I can deal with that.
But if he has screenshotted stuff or recorded anything then yes I would be a bit worried.
So my question is am I jumping to conclusions and panicking needlessly? Would you be worried about this?

I only realized I was blocked today which was 2 days after the call. I can't believe how stupid I've been, I actually liked the guy.
I think the fact that he never tried to make things sexual for the whole 2 weeks made me trust him and actually it was sort of me who initiated it in the last call as I really fancied him. He also works in IT which makes me worry more as he is IT savvy.
I am never ever doing an intimate video call with anyone ever again.

So should I just forget about this awful judgement call and vow to never do anything like this again or should I actually be worried?
I think the fact that he has blocked me has made me think he has done or is doing something sinister.
Sorry for the ramble,, I'm just actually panicking this morning

OP posts:
JJathome · 31/03/2024 11:36

I don’t understand why some women do it. Go on these international dating sites. No one doesn’t know young morrocan men, living in poverty effectively, go on these sites looking for older British women who will ultimately provide them a visa or money, to enable a better lifestyle.

They flatter them, lie to them, tell them they don’t look their age, that they are gorgeous, do the sex thing. pretend their values align to get to that end financial goal. Thats why they are on there.

it’s utterly common knowledge. What is it loneliness, desperation, narcissistic, what? And yet they still go on there, still fall for it. Knowing exactly why these young men sign up to these international sites looking for older British women.

it seems no matter how many warnings, how well known it is, no Matter how many programs on it, some women will still do it, and fall for it.

JJathome · 31/03/2024 11:37

5128gap · 31/03/2024 11:35

I'm assuming she meant covert. Which doesn't really fit either given it was pretty much in plain sight. It's one thing to warn the OP about being scammed, but there's been posters climbing over themselves at the opportunity for some misogynist moral judgement, and their ill disguised glee at the thought of a woman who dares to express herself sexually getting her comeuppance. Not everone obviously, just certain unpleasant individuals claiming they are 'embarassed for' a woman they've never met that she's 'predatory' and other silly hyperbole. Even after the OP agreed to block the guy they kept coming after her.

She’s not blocking him. Cmon. She knew exactly what rhe score was when she signed up for international Cupid and a young Moroccan man approached. That’s why she panicked when he blanked her for a couple of days.

5128gap · 31/03/2024 11:46

JJathome · 31/03/2024 11:37

She’s not blocking him. Cmon. She knew exactly what rhe score was when she signed up for international Cupid and a young Moroccan man approached. That’s why she panicked when he blanked her for a couple of days.

If you feel her mind is made up, even less point in the continued badgering and insulting of her, other than the pleasure you get from your own spite.

K8ate · 31/03/2024 11:52

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/03/2024 10:52

not quite sure what you mean by "coveted" as it doesn't really make sense in the context of that sentence but if you're suggesting it's jealousy, why would any one be jealous of the OP having the opportunity to see a close up of an ejaculating penis?

In the right context and circumstances, i can for sure understand the appeal.

guineverehadgreeneyes · 31/03/2024 13:05

"pearl crutching"

Freudian slip?

TotalDramarama24 · 31/03/2024 14:00

beatrix1234 · 31/03/2024 10:48

I’m seeing a lot coveted slut shaming on this thread, like somehow doing a sexy video call with a young hot Moroccan guy is a bad thing and she should be punished. The pearl crutching brigade is out full force today. Looks like “dirty white wh-ore” is not only shouted in the street by young Muslim boys but by English women on the internet too.

Edited

Why are posters not understanding that with the availability of AI this is likely not a "young hot Moroccan" at all. It is more likely to be an old bloke in Plymouth or a group of guys doing shifts in a scam centre in Nigeria. It's the danger and possible repercussions that people are berating the OP about, not the morality.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 31/03/2024 14:13

TotalDramarama24 · 31/03/2024 14:00

Why are posters not understanding that with the availability of AI this is likely not a "young hot Moroccan" at all. It is more likely to be an old bloke in Plymouth or a group of guys doing shifts in a scam centre in Nigeria. It's the danger and possible repercussions that people are berating the OP about, not the morality.

Thus may well be the case on many occasions, but here OP has seen him on a video call.

TotalDramarama24 · 31/03/2024 14:25

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat Have you seen the amount of free apps online where you can use any photo and make fake video calls with it?

SamW98 · 31/03/2024 14:30

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 31/03/2024 14:13

Thus may well be the case on many occasions, but here OP has seen him on a video call.

And these video calls from scammers are often very convincing AI/deep fake using photos and videos stolen from open SM profiles.

Ive seen 100’s that would fool most people that’s they’re genuine

JJathome · 31/03/2024 14:35

I suspect he is some young Moroccan bloke, my point is that there are many on international Cupid targeting older British women in the hope of money a visa or both. The lie is why they are getting involved with them. The romance is the lie. The sex. It’s such a common scam now

personally I don’t give a shit about who the op chooses to get involved with sexually. Literally. Not one shit. We all have a sex life. My point is simply she’s engaging in tnis sort of activity with a scammer looking for money or a visa, a complete stranger. She’s never even met him.

But if you sign up for this site, and a younger morrocan etc man approaches, you know the deal.

Mercurial123 · 31/03/2024 14:49

beatrix1234 · 31/03/2024 10:48

I’m seeing a lot coveted slut shaming on this thread, like somehow doing a sexy video call with a young hot Moroccan guy is a bad thing and she should be punished. The pearl crutching brigade is out full force today. Looks like “dirty white wh-ore” is not only shouted in the street by young Muslim boys but by English women on the internet too.

Edited

No pearl clutching from me. However, that was the OP at the start of this post. But now her scammer sorry hot young Moroccan is now back in contact that's long forgotten.

pleasecallmeback · 31/03/2024 15:55

I feel sorry for you, OP. Very sad that you have been conned and the victim of online sexual assault.

gold99 · 31/03/2024 15:59

OP, please listen to Lovebombed on BBC Sounds, and take a look at this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5039942-im-being-catfished-on-fb-live

If you said you'd met him in a bar and spent the night with him, that would be fine, knock yourself out. The online videos do make you vulnerable in case of blackmail as anyone can record it/take screenshots, and the whole set up sounds like a textbook example of a scam with the sick dad, and temporarily blocking you or not replying to panic you. You now trust him more, it's done to reel you in. Even if it isn't a scam, is it really worth the risk?

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BMW6 · 31/03/2024 16:01

pleasecallmeback · 31/03/2024 15:55

I feel sorry for you, OP. Very sad that you have been conned and the victim of online sexual assault.

Don't be daft. She engaged in consensual sexual activity online, which she is perfectly at liberty to do.
There was absolutely NO sexual assault!

beatrix1234 · 31/03/2024 16:43

BMW6 · 31/03/2024 16:01

Don't be daft. She engaged in consensual sexual activity online, which she is perfectly at liberty to do.
There was absolutely NO sexual assault!

Some mumsnetters believe that women are not able to engage in adult consensual relationships and that any man wanking infront of a woman is a “rapist”, there’s some warped minds on MN.

JJathome · 31/03/2024 16:54

beatrix1234 · 31/03/2024 16:43

Some mumsnetters believe that women are not able to engage in adult consensual relationships and that any man wanking infront of a woman is a “rapist”, there’s some warped minds on MN.

Don’t be silly now. I agree one poster got a bit hysterical. But The point is this is a young morrocan man on international Cupid for a reason, looking for older British women for money or visa. No different to a younger Thai woman to use a stereotype, doing the same with an older British man

altnough thr disdain for the man in with the Thai woman is usually worse. Both older wealthier people are exploiting the younger poorer person for sex and romance. We may once have thought women were being conned, but there is so much publicity now there is no way they don’t know when they deliberately sign up for this.

beatrix1234 · 31/03/2024 17:36

JJathome · 31/03/2024 16:54

Don’t be silly now. I agree one poster got a bit hysterical. But The point is this is a young morrocan man on international Cupid for a reason, looking for older British women for money or visa. No different to a younger Thai woman to use a stereotype, doing the same with an older British man

altnough thr disdain for the man in with the Thai woman is usually worse. Both older wealthier people are exploiting the younger poorer person for sex and romance. We may once have thought women were being conned, but there is so much publicity now there is no way they don’t know when they deliberately sign up for this.

Have you thought about the possibility that young horny Moroccan Muslim sexually fantasises with white older milf types? Hence the reason he goes on to UK British ok Cupid looking for them, he’d rather not do it locally because he’s religious and engaged. Flash news: not every dark skinned man on the internet is a scammer.

5128gap · 31/03/2024 20:50

JJathome · 31/03/2024 16:54

Don’t be silly now. I agree one poster got a bit hysterical. But The point is this is a young morrocan man on international Cupid for a reason, looking for older British women for money or visa. No different to a younger Thai woman to use a stereotype, doing the same with an older British man

altnough thr disdain for the man in with the Thai woman is usually worse. Both older wealthier people are exploiting the younger poorer person for sex and romance. We may once have thought women were being conned, but there is so much publicity now there is no way they don’t know when they deliberately sign up for this.

It couldn't be more different from old men and young Thai women. Those old men get a very good deal in exchange for any financial outlay they make because the young women deliver on their side of the bargain, becoming wife to the old man. In this case (most of us would suspect) should the OP be foolish enough to give anything materiality, she will never see this young man again. You can't exploit someone who is scamming you, so as much as you'd like to throw the kitchen sink at the OP, she's either a deluded stupid scam victim or a predatory exploiter of this young man, because she can't be both.

Anothercr · 01/04/2024 01:17

Lanterns12828 · 30/03/2024 14:57

I would say very attractive is a bit of an overstatement for the women on the tinder swindler. But I agree that is not just overweight older women who get scammed. The women on the tinder swindler clearly thought they were going to get their hands on his supposed fortune. How wrong they were.

You think these women aren’t very attractive?

Blocked after an intimate video call and now I'm panicking
Lanterns12828 · 01/04/2024 09:07

Anothercr · 01/04/2024 01:17

You think these women aren’t very attractive?

No I don't

ChanelNo19EDT · 01/04/2024 09:25

wow, I'd look at those women and think they would not be in any way deluded to expect a handsome date who had it all sewn up (financially). They don't look like they're going to meet their date in a greasy spoon after he's picked up his job seeker's allowance

5128gap · 01/04/2024 09:56

Lanterns12828 · 01/04/2024 09:07

No I don't

Your personal taste is neither here nor there though. The picture shows women who are conventionally attractive 'enough' that none will go short of male attention or have any reason to suspect a man showing interest in them would not be sincere. They will likely have had plenty of interest from men genuinely attracted to them and so have no difficulty in believing the scammer is too.
The OP is in a similar mind set. She is an attractive 40 year old woman who likely gets approached by men on a regular basis (as pretty much all conventionally attractive women do) many of these men will be considerably younger. So her immediate thought is not to suspect this mans motives in the way, say, 65 year old Bernard who no woman ever looks at twice, might reasonably be expected to if a beautiful young woman suddenly professes to find him irresistible.

Lanterns12828 · 01/04/2024 10:02

5128gap · 01/04/2024 09:56

Your personal taste is neither here nor there though. The picture shows women who are conventionally attractive 'enough' that none will go short of male attention or have any reason to suspect a man showing interest in them would not be sincere. They will likely have had plenty of interest from men genuinely attracted to them and so have no difficulty in believing the scammer is too.
The OP is in a similar mind set. She is an attractive 40 year old woman who likely gets approached by men on a regular basis (as pretty much all conventionally attractive women do) many of these men will be considerably younger. So her immediate thought is not to suspect this mans motives in the way, say, 65 year old Bernard who no woman ever looks at twice, might reasonably be expected to if a beautiful young woman suddenly professes to find him irresistible.

I find them average looking. That is my opinion and I am fully entitled to it. I mean why would a billionaire diamond mogul go for an average looking woman he met on tinder? For starters, he would not even be on tinder in the first place and secondly he would have his pick of models.

Anothercr · 01/04/2024 12:51

Lanterns12828 · 01/04/2024 10:02

I find them average looking. That is my opinion and I am fully entitled to it. I mean why would a billionaire diamond mogul go for an average looking woman he met on tinder? For starters, he would not even be on tinder in the first place and secondly he would have his pick of models.

You're entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to think it’s hilarious. 😁

‘Average looking’ means most women look like them. Is that what most women around you look like?

The Tinder Swindler was meant to be a millionaire. By and large, they don’t date models. They date attractive, accomplished, well presented women - like these ones.

Also, there are millionaires on dating apps. There are celebrities on dating apps. And models. It’s no more niche or surprising than meeting them in a bar.

Lanterns12828 · 01/04/2024 13:07

Anothercr · 01/04/2024 12:51

You're entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to think it’s hilarious. 😁

‘Average looking’ means most women look like them. Is that what most women around you look like?

The Tinder Swindler was meant to be a millionaire. By and large, they don’t date models. They date attractive, accomplished, well presented women - like these ones.

Also, there are millionaires on dating apps. There are celebrities on dating apps. And models. It’s no more niche or surprising than meeting them in a bar.

The have nice clothes, good haircuts and well applied makeup. They are not naturally attractive. We must have used different versions of tinder. Because the men I saw on tinder was awful.

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