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Told I'm a terrible wife

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yoyo456 · 15/02/2024 22:58

First time poster but want some feedback on a conversation I had with my DH.
Today he said that I was a terrible wife and when was the last time I did anything for him?
We have 2 DC of which I do 90% of the care. Youngest is 18 months has never slept through and I do 100% of night care.
I do all the cooking , cleaning, laundry and child admin whilst trying to hold a down a full time quite intense job.
When I challenged him on the comment that I don't do anything for him, he said being a mother is completely different to being a wife. But my argument was parenting is a job for us as a married couple so with me doing the lions share allowing him to work the hours he wants and do all his social activities (a lot of golf and football) that should count as me doing things for him. He completely dismissed this.
Yes I accept since children came along our lives are very different and I haven't organised surprise weekends etc but I still buy him little treats and always put his hobbies first. I accept I'm completely shattered so maybe I am neglecting some of my wife duties, but isn't parenting a big part of it??

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Whoopaday · 16/02/2024 22:39

Wow, so not normal.
Yoi shouldn’t be doing 199% of the childcare even if you were a SAHM, you working full time means he has to do 50% of everything! Nights, housework, childcare, cooking.
Leave. seriously, you’ll be doing just what you do now for your kids but won’t have to facilite him. You’ll lose nothing and get one a day a weeks rest when he takes them as that will be all the custody he wants.

leave.

honestly, leave,

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Sorry I’ve missed your other posts, this is sarcastic right?

yoyo456 · 16/02/2024 22:39

Wow, I never expected so many replies. It's given me a lot to think about. Thank you all.
I promise he's not awful, he works very long hours which is why I end up doing most of the work, but I definitely need to stand up for myself more for him to appreciate that.
The point of the question was to check that there were people that agreed with me in terms of the parenting/ marriage crossover which there seem to be a lot of you that do so thank you, it's given me more confidence to stand my ground if a conversation like this arises again.

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FatHairyCunt · 16/02/2024 22:42

@Whoopaday no im not im nice

Whoopaday · 16/02/2024 22:42

FatHairyCunt · 16/02/2024 22:42

@Whoopaday no im not im nice

I can see that. Why derails peoples threads?

Goldbar · 16/02/2024 22:46

When does he think you should get time to be a human being?

Or if he's not terrible, is it possible that he's mistaken you for a robot or a household appliance?

cockadoodledandy · 16/02/2024 22:48

Tell him to fuck off. Make him write down 5 things he’s done for you in the last month. Also make him write down (don’t tell him) 5 times you’ve had any time to yourself in the last month.

bet he can’t.

TheBayLady · 16/02/2024 22:50

yoy456 Glad the replies have given you confidence but why the hell are you waiting until he brings it up again? This is the reason he walks all over you - because you allow it. Show your children your worth and stand up for yourself and demand he does his share and that you have the same amount of child free time for your hobbies as he does. You are only treated with respect if you treat yourself with respect.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 16/02/2024 22:56

But my argument was parenting is a job for us as a married couple so with me doing the lions share allowing him to work the hours he wants and do all his social activities (a lot of golf and football) that should count as me doing things for him. He completely dismissed this.

If he won't accept this after you've explained it, he's a selfish manchild who you would honestly be better off without. Divorce him. He will soon realise how much you did for him when he has to look after the kids himself during their weeks with him.

thebestinterest · 16/02/2024 23:05

I would present him with divorce papers while telling him “I’m doing this for you 😉”

thebestinterest · 16/02/2024 23:06

MumDaisy1980 · 15/02/2024 23:09

How dare a husband say to a wife like that. If he is that great why not ask him find a better wife.

leaving you a chance to find a better husband , and irritate him by saying a better step dad that’s better the dad. See what he say!!

This

Cornishclio · 16/02/2024 23:07

Goodness he sounds awful. Why are you doing the lions share of the parenting? Are you a SAHM?

Fixyourself · 16/02/2024 23:07

What are you getting out of this relationship??

WhoopsyDaisySugar · 16/02/2024 23:08

You don’t need to wait for him to bring it up again.

He does not value you. He does not appreciate what you do.

You work full time and do practically everything for your children and for the household.

I bet you don’t have time for any hobbies.

Go on strike.
Stop doing his laundry.
Stop cooking for him.
He can fetch his own shopping.
No sex.
If he doesn’t fix up, get a divorce!

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 16/02/2024 23:08

Research the mental load, write down all you do vs what he does. Tell him if he does his fair share it will ease pressure on you and you’ll have more time to ‘be a wife’ whatever that means. https://the-motherload.co.uk/the-motherload-understanding-and-managing-the-mental-load/

Honestly? I think with this attitude you should seriously think if you want to be with him. He doesn’t back down, he doesn’t value you. Where will you be in 10 years when you are so worn down and he has been living the life of Reilly?

The Motherload: Understanding and Managing the Mental Load

In this article, we'll explore how mums in the UK can manage 'the motherload' - the invisible mental burden of managing the family and household

https://the-motherload.co.uk/the-motherload-understanding-and-managing-the-mental-load/

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 16/02/2024 23:09

WhoopsyDaisySugar · 16/02/2024 23:08

You don’t need to wait for him to bring it up again.

He does not value you. He does not appreciate what you do.

You work full time and do practically everything for your children and for the household.

I bet you don’t have time for any hobbies.

Go on strike.
Stop doing his laundry.
Stop cooking for him.
He can fetch his own shopping.
No sex.
If he doesn’t fix up, get a divorce!

And agree, don’t wait for it to be brought up again. This needs resolving otherwise he will never value what you do.

ymemanresu · 16/02/2024 23:09

sorry to be blunt but he means sex x ❤️

AndThatWasNY · 16/02/2024 23:09

Long hours! These bastards always do. Never rush home, far easier to keep "working". I even if they are working surely they should actually prioritize their children and their wife rather than their career.

He's not working when he's playing golf though is he. He's managed to choose the world's longest hobby

My DH worked 60 plus hour weeks for several years when the kids were little (I was ill and we could afford to both work full time) but he spent his time off looking after the kids, shopping and cleaning before he did his hobbies (or we went out to the pub) til the kids were bigger. And he always made sure I got a break
Your husband is a selfish twat.

Cornishclio · 16/02/2024 23:14

I have just read your OP again and missed you hold down a full time job so I would say why isn't he helping you with parenting your children? He sounds like a crap husband and father and I hate the term wife duties. What exactly are these? What are his duties and are we living in the 1950s still?

I would sit down calmly with him and work out if can continue to stay married to someone who has so little respect for you and what you do for your family. Tell him if you are to both work on your relationship he has to help with parenting more even if he has less time for his hobbies. Do you get time for yourself?

schoolsuckz · 16/02/2024 23:23

I’m really sorry OP but you can’t promise he is not awful, because
unless there is a massive drip feed coming,
or you’ve failed to mention all the praise and appreciation he gave you for all your doing right now,
or he actually didn’t say “you’re doing a terrible job as a wife” and instead said something grown up like: “I really miss the intimacy we shared before we had the children, would you be up for leaving them with X relative for a night if I make all the arrangements so that we can spend some time reconnecting?”
And followed that suggestion up with the words “of course, if you want to use that time just to sleep and eat room service for 24 hours that’ll be fine with me”…
Unless any of the above are true then his behaviour IS pretty awful.

The fact that you’re defending him and feel you need to stand up for yourself more, is 🚩 🚩for you having already been brainwashed into thinking that he is entitled to do whatever he wants while all the stress of family life is heaped on your shoulders, which is also demonstrated by the fact that you’re facilitating his hobbies and social life in the way you describe.

I bet you partly feel you have to do this because he tells you that it was you who pushed to have children and he always said he wasn’t fussed, or some version of that old chestnut.

You say you hold down an intense full time job - you’re smart, right? so what are you THINKING being with a man who clearly believes that his needs should be your number one priority and isn’t afraid to tell you so in the rudest way imaginable, which also demeans you and everything you are doing in your life and home?!?!

Is this what you want your children to see and learn?

I sincerely hope what he has said is just about him getting laid and is not
a) a prelude to him trying to pressure you into leaving your job on the basis that you’d have a lot more time to fulfil his needs and be ‘less stressed’ if you were focused on him and raising his children; or
b) a prelude to him leaving you high and dry when you discover that ‘golf’ is code for ‘shagging my assistant’.

Seriously lady - think about what you are worth because it is clearly more than you’re getting. I am sorry to be harsh about it, but it doesn’t sound as though you are trapped in this relationship due to finances or a massive power imbalance. It sounds as though you’ve entirely forgotten (which parenting/working/sleep deprivation and a shitty relationship can easily cause) that you are, in fact, a GO-GETTER who has OPTIONS and the ability to be self sufficient. You are NOT some downtrodden 1950s housewife who ‘needs’ to be schooled by her husband. Is this what you’d expect your daughters to tolerate, or your sons to do?!

Do not under any circumstances be persuaded to jack in your job/reduce hours etc etc. Take responsibility for contraception. Make sure that you are not in the position of not knowing what your joint financial status is. (I assume if you’re married that money is joint and your name is on the house etc etc). He just showed you who he is in a big way, and I bet it’s not the first time he has waved the 🚩.

Do NOT go along in a daze due to lack of sleep and general overload, thinking your husband has anything approaching your best interests at heart (or even that they are on his radar), and then get blindsided when he crosses the line.
Oh hang on - too late… 🤦

PS I really hope he earns a shed ton of money and you, at least, have a lovely lifestyle while you figure all this out…

PPS At some point in future you’re also going to want to remember the title of this book:
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft.

IMBananas666 · 16/02/2024 23:25

I would just cook for yourself and the kids, clean only the dishes you/they use. Only do laundry for yourself and the kids, keep your half of the bathroom clean. Make plans to go out with friends and tell him you're going out. Bonus points if it's dinner or bathtime for the kids. Or just divorce his ungrateful ass.

Frangipanyoul8r · 16/02/2024 23:35

I do all the cooking , cleaning, laundry and child admin whilst trying to hold a down a full time quite intense job.

I just don’t understand why you would do this. You do realise that working parents normally share these responsibilities don’t you?

VinBlanc1 · 16/02/2024 23:37

I had one of these husbands too - he worked v long hours as well and I did everything (and had a full time job) but it was never enough. Unbelievably he was the one that was unhappy - satisfied his ego by finding a younger, child free alternative. Stand up to him OP.

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