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DH so, so annoying!!! Ahhhh!

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Char65 · 17/12/2023 14:31

My DH! 😡OMG I find him so incredibly annoying at times! Last Saturday we went to a lovely party and I wore a gorgeous and very expensive gold dress which I posted about on style and beauty and he was fully of compliments and it was a really lovely, lovely evening and this Saturday we had a bit of an argument about Christmas arrangements and some other stuff. The youngest lives at home and then our eldest son and his wife and out granddaughter are coming Christmas day but not sure what’s happening with the two girls who I phoned and was talking to for ages and then got accused of pandering to them as I wanted to see them over the Christmas period and they weren’t panning to come over Christmas day with their b/fs. DH thinks he’s right all the time and doesn’t like me disagreeing with him and he doesn’t listen to me so when I get really het up and we argue he accuses me of being pig-headed and bad-tempered. I joined MN and posted about things being difficult since DH had retired in 2018 – which was my first post - backstory here. He had a high-powered high-income job in the City. We married when I was 25 and he was 38, that was 33 years ago! I became a SAHM with an allowance which I loved as had 4 children now aged 32, 30, 27 and 22 – the youngest being at home still (I was so, so happy when the children were young and really loved life! The children all went to private schools but didn’t board and my life revolved around them to a large extent. Our eldest played rugby and if it wasn’t for an injury would have become a professional and our eldest daughter played cello in an orchestra but not professional). We wanted for nothing and had a lovely lifestyle and lovely family holidays. DH has always been good with money and we moved house quite a few times to make money on sales and he invested in property as well and stocks and shares like his dad who owned a stables and holiday lets and a shop. His mum was a SAHM and his dad was very traditional in his thinking. I always got on well with his parents who owned a villa in Spain (we now own it) and used to take the children out there even if DH was working and could only join us for a short period but the truth is DH has always been a bit difficult. He’s very traditional, serious and stern and I guess I’ve always been a bit placid and submissive but on the flip side he’s always been faith and loyal, supported me financially (in fact he’s very generous to me and the children) and backed up with anything to do with the children. When he was working he often worked late and played golf every Saturday, so we didn’t see a huge amount of each other. He liked coming back to a nice home and when we went out socially he’d always be very complimentary like he was last Saturday and oddly that is when we get on the best as he likes having a younger wife and the fact I’m quiet ‘chatty’ and sociable as he can be quite quiet. He’s never minded me going out with friends, shopping, beauty treatments, going to the theatre etc and but he’s always been in charge. In fact one day I overheard him talking to my Dad (my parents used to babysit a lot for us and stay over) and Dad asked him what I thought about something or other he was planning for us to do (probably move house!) and DH said ‘oh she’ll just do as she’s told.’ As I say when the children were young they were my life and I guess were my Achilles heel when it came to DH and why I didn’t push things when he made decisions I wasn’t happy about (oh and I have to say he knew that too!) like moving house which was a big upheaval especially for me and the children but now they have all left home apart from the youngest, so I don’t need to care for them so much. We have recently become grandparents and I over committed on childcare, but DH sorted that out. After the last post I put some things to DH which had been suggested by kind MNers. He said he didn’t want to be a NED or do any form of voluntary work or anything like that but wanted to relax though he did like the auctioneering idea, and we have done that together and he’s going to specialise (he used to collect rare books and James Bond/Ian Fleming memorabilia which he loves and is surprising valuable) so that’s really good and we’ve had some good days out with that, going for nice lunches but again DH likes to dictate what I buy so I tend to just let him buy things and I look around. When we sat down to talk things over (I’ve learnt over the years to do this is in a way that I’m not 'having a go' at him or he gets defensive) his issues with me were that I was always phoning and texting the children (he thinks I molly coddle them and we have an ‘uneasy peace’ shall we say with the youngest still being at home) and had continued my life as it was before he retired. He admitted he’d found it hard to adjust to retirement and although he doesn’t pick holes in me so much or try to organise me so much now we are alone together I know we don’t have that much in common, which is why the auctioneering is good because at least we’re kind of doing something together. I was hoping he would ‘lighten up’ (as our oldest used to say to him!) as he got older but that hasn’t happened (in fact he’s got worse!). I love him and know at 71 I know he’s not going to change and to be honest I can’t imagine life without him so I’m not going to leave him so really I’ve just come on here to vent and let off steam really – ahhhhh - he is so f**king annoying at times!!!! Thanks MN - I feel a lot better now!😃

OP posts:
MincePieForMe · 19/12/2023 14:56

I am so glad I married for love and not money. Your lifestyle sounds suffocating and dull. I can't imagine being married to someone who treated me with such disdain. Maybe you should get a job, start a career, so you can get some self-esteem of your own, instead of everything being tied up with your husband and children and what they want and need. Then when your husband demands you drop everything to go 'antiquing' or a 'drive in the E Type' you can legitimately say no.

BMW6 · 19/12/2023 15:01

What a pile of vacuous drivel

RainbowZebraWarrior · 19/12/2023 15:03

YaWeeFurryBastard · 19/12/2023 12:50

Sorry but this is getting silly now. Why the constant “success”/brand dropping. All coming across very shallow and try hard. If you want happiness, you need to look beyond material things.

The way it's written, sounds like a complete fantasy world.

Neitheronethingnortheother · 19/12/2023 15:19

At this point I'm wondering if Xenia's Dh has retired..

daisychain01 · 19/12/2023 17:32

BMW6 · 19/12/2023 15:01

What a pile of vacuous drivel

Yes, in a nutshell.

I don't envy the OPs husband.

Mummysgogetter · 19/12/2023 17:39

Lol exactly my thoughts - I just felt like it read like a subtle brag about how Cinderella is feeling suffocated in her luxury ivory tower with her doting, rich, high-status (albeit slightly demanding) prince. Ooh poor OP - she is crying into her Versace silk scarf whilst she sits on her veranda 🤣🤣🤣

MincePieForMe · 19/12/2023 17:47

I don't envy anyone in this scenario, not the husband, nor the wife, nor the four adult offspring. The whole thing is just so tedious.

Char65 · 19/12/2023 19:38

Look, I’ve had enough of all this! I wish I’d never posted my rant on Sunday afternoon. To be fair most of the responses have been OK and offered helpful advice like the need to do a college course or voluntary work, to get out of the house and do other stuff, the need to challenge DH a bit more, go to counselling myself – I can take all that – that’s reasonable advice which I appreciate but there’s also been endless posts picking holes in me for my lack of paragraphs, the clothes I wear, my lifestyle, my name dropping of brands (honestly didn’t know I was doing it!), my apparently boring personality, my love of money, my shallowness, whatever, whatever. My God I feel like I’m back in secondary school where I had few friends and was constantly bullied and picked on by a group of girls from age 11 to 16 and by the English teacher in the last couple of years which maybe, just maybe, is why my written English isn’t so good. I think I only got a grade 3 CSE in it. Even the fact that our grown-up daughters are unable to spend Christmas with us is pulled apart like there’s some great reason for it like they don’t like DH or they don’t like me as I do too much for them and interfere in their lives! My God! My youngest son too – OK I do a lot for him but he dropped out of Uni and he has some issues which I’m not going to share on here and we’re trying to work through them with him as he needs plenty of TLC at the moment. Fortunately he’s now in a lot better place - so maybe doing the washing and ironing and cooking his dinner has been worth it! I have a really great relationship with all my children thank you very much, how many parents can say that? I’m to blame as I have kept fuelling the fire and added to posts and answered them because I think its polite to do that but this is my last post on this thread or topic or whatever its called. It started with a rant and it will end with one too. I’m not responding to anyone again on this. I really have had enough!!! The funny thing is it has made me feel one Hell of a lot closer to my DH and my family!

OP posts:
betterangels · 19/12/2023 20:01

Right now you don't seem that worried about being confrontational, so there is that.

NonPlayerCharacter · 19/12/2023 20:05

Mummysgogetter · 19/12/2023 17:39

Lol exactly my thoughts - I just felt like it read like a subtle brag about how Cinderella is feeling suffocated in her luxury ivory tower with her doting, rich, high-status (albeit slightly demanding) prince. Ooh poor OP - she is crying into her Versace silk scarf whilst she sits on her veranda 🤣🤣🤣

Well that really says more about you than OP. She was posting because she was unhappy. You think it must just be a brag because you can't see her lifestyle in any other context even though it's very relevant to the issue. That's a you issue.

NonPlayerCharacter · 19/12/2023 20:07

OP, I don't normally go for the "ur just well jel" response, but in this case, I think it's pretty clear that that's exactly why you've had some nasty responses. If you can filter those out and focus on the posts you found helpful, try to do that.

MotherofGorgons · 19/12/2023 20:18

Did you really need that much advice to get out of the house and get a job or volunteer work or do a course or whatever? It"s obvious to anyone that you need to build an identity outside your family.

People told you this on your previous post as well. But you keep saying how happy you are with your life and relationships. And now you are back to being close with your controlling DH because he, apparently, is not a bully, unlike posters on here. 🙄

ISpyNoPlumPie · 19/12/2023 20:20

betterangels · 19/12/2023 20:01

Right now you don't seem that worried about being confrontational, so there is that.

Yes! Channel this towards DH!! Surely the thread has been productive to this end.

WallaceinAnderland · 19/12/2023 20:37

You keep flip flopping from 'my life is terrible, I have no autonomy' to 'everything's great, I'm so lucky'.

It's your life OP, you're the one who has to live it. Take some time to reflect on advice from posters and definitely speak with a counsellor who can help untangle all this for you.

You can be happy, you just need to be prepared to take steps to change yourself a little, rather than expecting him to change. Because he won't.

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/09/2024 20:40

Char65 · 17/12/2023 14:31

My DH! 😡OMG I find him so incredibly annoying at times! Last Saturday we went to a lovely party and I wore a gorgeous and very expensive gold dress which I posted about on style and beauty and he was fully of compliments and it was a really lovely, lovely evening and this Saturday we had a bit of an argument about Christmas arrangements and some other stuff. The youngest lives at home and then our eldest son and his wife and out granddaughter are coming Christmas day but not sure what’s happening with the two girls who I phoned and was talking to for ages and then got accused of pandering to them as I wanted to see them over the Christmas period and they weren’t panning to come over Christmas day with their b/fs. DH thinks he’s right all the time and doesn’t like me disagreeing with him and he doesn’t listen to me so when I get really het up and we argue he accuses me of being pig-headed and bad-tempered. I joined MN and posted about things being difficult since DH had retired in 2018 – which was my first post - backstory here. He had a high-powered high-income job in the City. We married when I was 25 and he was 38, that was 33 years ago! I became a SAHM with an allowance which I loved as had 4 children now aged 32, 30, 27 and 22 – the youngest being at home still (I was so, so happy when the children were young and really loved life! The children all went to private schools but didn’t board and my life revolved around them to a large extent. Our eldest played rugby and if it wasn’t for an injury would have become a professional and our eldest daughter played cello in an orchestra but not professional). We wanted for nothing and had a lovely lifestyle and lovely family holidays. DH has always been good with money and we moved house quite a few times to make money on sales and he invested in property as well and stocks and shares like his dad who owned a stables and holiday lets and a shop. His mum was a SAHM and his dad was very traditional in his thinking. I always got on well with his parents who owned a villa in Spain (we now own it) and used to take the children out there even if DH was working and could only join us for a short period but the truth is DH has always been a bit difficult. He’s very traditional, serious and stern and I guess I’ve always been a bit placid and submissive but on the flip side he’s always been faith and loyal, supported me financially (in fact he’s very generous to me and the children) and backed up with anything to do with the children. When he was working he often worked late and played golf every Saturday, so we didn’t see a huge amount of each other. He liked coming back to a nice home and when we went out socially he’d always be very complimentary like he was last Saturday and oddly that is when we get on the best as he likes having a younger wife and the fact I’m quiet ‘chatty’ and sociable as he can be quite quiet. He’s never minded me going out with friends, shopping, beauty treatments, going to the theatre etc and but he’s always been in charge. In fact one day I overheard him talking to my Dad (my parents used to babysit a lot for us and stay over) and Dad asked him what I thought about something or other he was planning for us to do (probably move house!) and DH said ‘oh she’ll just do as she’s told.’ As I say when the children were young they were my life and I guess were my Achilles heel when it came to DH and why I didn’t push things when he made decisions I wasn’t happy about (oh and I have to say he knew that too!) like moving house which was a big upheaval especially for me and the children but now they have all left home apart from the youngest, so I don’t need to care for them so much. We have recently become grandparents and I over committed on childcare, but DH sorted that out. After the last post I put some things to DH which had been suggested by kind MNers. He said he didn’t want to be a NED or do any form of voluntary work or anything like that but wanted to relax though he did like the auctioneering idea, and we have done that together and he’s going to specialise (he used to collect rare books and James Bond/Ian Fleming memorabilia which he loves and is surprising valuable) so that’s really good and we’ve had some good days out with that, going for nice lunches but again DH likes to dictate what I buy so I tend to just let him buy things and I look around. When we sat down to talk things over (I’ve learnt over the years to do this is in a way that I’m not 'having a go' at him or he gets defensive) his issues with me were that I was always phoning and texting the children (he thinks I molly coddle them and we have an ‘uneasy peace’ shall we say with the youngest still being at home) and had continued my life as it was before he retired. He admitted he’d found it hard to adjust to retirement and although he doesn’t pick holes in me so much or try to organise me so much now we are alone together I know we don’t have that much in common, which is why the auctioneering is good because at least we’re kind of doing something together. I was hoping he would ‘lighten up’ (as our oldest used to say to him!) as he got older but that hasn’t happened (in fact he’s got worse!). I love him and know at 71 I know he’s not going to change and to be honest I can’t imagine life without him so I’m not going to leave him so really I’ve just come on here to vent and let off steam really – ahhhhh - he is so f**king annoying at times!!!! Thanks MN - I feel a lot better now!😃

Well, I’m glad YOU feel better! I have a headache! I haven’t read such a pointless and irritating post for a long time. You spent ages writing it, I spent ages reading it, and for what?? After all that, nothing’s going to change. You could have spared us all and just written this in a diary at home. You made sure we all knew you had a house in France, children at private schools, valuable books, lovely lunches out, and wanted for nothing etc. etc. and in total, the perfect life. Have you seen the news lately? Have you seen how people can hardly afford the house they’ve got, never mind having another one abroad. How do you think they feel? Thankfully, I am not one of those people but I wish I could do something for them. You, in contrast, are living your Stepford Wives life! Well, bully for you, but a bit of humility wouldn’t come amiss.
Sorry, but this has made me quite angry as you’ve probably gathered!
Oh, and I feel a lot better now too!

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