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DH bought sex toys for himself

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namechannger · 14/11/2023 12:58

Background is that we are going through a phase of mis-matched libidos. This has caused tension between us.

Me: not currently very interested in sex probably due to tiredness, young children, work etc etc plus early 40's so possible peri. Have been doing it one or twice a week and more out of love than really feeling horny. Recently it's declined and there have been some weeks with zero sex happening. I would like it to be more but I just don't feel like it at the moment. I know it's hard as he feels like it everyday.

Him: would be happy to have sex everyday and would like it to be more adventurous than missionary.

Recently the mismatch has caused a rift. I've tried to book more childcare and do more self-care to help me feel more in the mood. When he's home from work he's been doing a bit more round the house and we have money to outsource stuff.

In the meantime DH has more sex drive so will w*nk by himself if no sex available. He watches porn on his phone which I'm okay with.

He's just ordered some new sex toys for men. I don't want to know what they are but I can guess. It makes me feel a bit sick / repulsed.

His argument is that whilst he's not getting the amount of sex he wants he wants to be able to pleasure himself, and he wouldn't have an issue with me using a vibrator, in fact he would encourage it and it's completely natural.

I feel uncomfortable about it though. AIBU to feel uncomfortable? Is it double standards when plenty of women use vibrators and DH would be happy with me using one?

OP posts:
LolaSmiles · 14/11/2023 16:06

EtiennePalmiere
The thread would probably have very different responses if it was about his Only Fans use though.

If I were to take a guess based on the general threads on this topic, it would probably boil down to people mainly saying:

  • going on only fans isn't ok and borders on/is classed as cheating
  • porn use - mixed views ranging from the it's ok to it's detrimental to many women
  • what toys an adult uses to enhance their solo play is up to them and isn't for their partner to police
  • it's not ok to decide that vibrators for women are fine but toys for men are gross
Amazonstolemyname · 14/11/2023 16:09

I could happily never have sex again (40 years old). DH has a fleshlite, it doesn't bother me at all

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 14/11/2023 16:10

Torganer · 14/11/2023 13:09

It’s irrelevant what other people do. Talk to you husband about why you uncomfortable with this. If you can’t come to a compromise, then I think you need to decide if it is a dealbreaker for your relationship.

I agree.

I personally wouldn’t mind this (although some sex toys can be a bit icky). But I am (clearly) not OP. My opinion is therefore fairly irrelevant…

CrashyTime · 14/11/2023 16:17

OrlandointheWilderness · 14/11/2023 13:40

I'm sorry but what the fuck?!?!?
I'm the one with a sky high sex drive in our relationship and I'd be pretty passed if DP said I couldn't use toys.

Are you seriously saying that you think people with a high sex drive should be drugged out of it!?! And that gay men are constantly in the mood like some kind of machines?!?

Yes it was a strange post, we should all take a minute every day to remember why we are here and to give thanks IMO.

43ontherocksporfavor · 14/11/2023 16:18

I’d be bothered about the porn. Gross and aggressive towards women. The sex toys don’t bother me.

momonpurpose · 14/11/2023 16:19

SylvieLaufeydottir · 14/11/2023 13:12

I think YABU, yes. What your husband does with his own body is not in your control or for you to affect, and I would give very short shrift indeed to any man who kicked off if his female partner bought a vibrator. What does it take away from you to have him finding ways to give himself pleasure by himself?

If you don't want to know about these things, ask him not to tell you or involve you in any way, but these feelings are for you to deal with.

Absolutely you have no right to tell him what he can or can't do with his own body. If a man did this the pitchforks would be out. I feel very sorry for your husband. Instead of pressing you or finding someone else to have sex with he chose to do this. To make him feel ashamed about it is wrong.

laclochette · 14/11/2023 16:21

I understand the visceral reaction but ultimately I think it's entirely fair that he do this. But the issue will be if it becomes a further barrier between you rather than a sort of bridging solution, which if you feel a bit icky and even resentful about it, is what could risk happening - as you recognise.

While everyone also needs their own private erotic world that nobody else is privy to, if there's a way you can take even a vicarious interest in his pleasure it could potentially be a way to work back to more closeness rather than being something that could come between you... What turns him on, what does he fantasise about, are there any areas you can engage and enter into with him imaginatively, and could this one day even begin to turn you on...? Are there any sexy stories on audio platforms like Dipsea that you might both find hot and could listen to either together, or separately? Not to push you into something that you're just not in the headspace for right now, but I'm just wondering how you can keep those doors open as much as possible, for when you are.

Changehappens · 14/11/2023 16:26

SomeoneSaidSomethingAboutSometime · 14/11/2023 13:28

Leave him to it, its his body.

Those fake vagina things are repulsive imo though so if it’s one of those 🤮

🤦‍♀️🤣
Never been a fan of the idea of 'toys' but there again neither of us have reason to complain without them🤭

SoundTheSirens · 14/11/2023 16:26

I agree in principle that he's entitled to use toys when he's getting himself off solo, so long as he's not sticking his fleshlight in the dishwasher with the lunch dishes, just as you're entitled to use toys yourself if you so wished.

I think there is a danger that without good communication about your sex life, he might start to reach for it automatically rather than 'bother' you, which (if you'd got over the ick) might seem quite an attractive proposition at first if you're not really up for it that often, are feeling pestered, touched out by the kids etc. But then you run the risk of drifting into never having sex, which could ultimately lead to you starting to feel unattractive/undesirable. So I think it's important to keep talking and try to keep that connection when you are in the mood / feel like you could get into it once you get started (I sometimes have more of a 'reactive' sex drive so I may think beforehand that I can't really be bothered, but then I thoroughly enjoy it once I've made the effort to start).

LolaSmiles · 14/11/2023 16:35

I agree in principle that he's entitled to use toys when he's getting himself off solo, so long as he's not sticking his fleshlight in the dishwasher with the lunch dishes, just as you're entitled to use toys yourself if you so wished
That's an image and a half 😂

But I do agree with you, and the rest of your post. There's got to be some ongoing communication on the sex topic.

Most threads about mismatched libidos could probably be resolved with a combination of communication, men pulling their weight at home, and the person with the lower sex drive being honest about how little they anticipate having a sexual relationship. Dare I say it I think many couples don't communicate because it might shine a light on incompatibility issues and it's safer to drift along than either sort it or leave.

theleafandnotthetree · 14/11/2023 16:36

When it comes to the sexual realm, rationality, unfairness and double standards doesn't really come in to it in terms of our instinctive responses. I too would find this gave me the ick and was a little 'wierd'. But crucially, you don't have to verbalise this, act on it or overly focus on it. In other words you don't necessarily have a choice in terms of how you 'feel' about it at first glance - just like I can't control the fact that I could never be sexually attracted to someone extremely thin - but you can choose how to deal with it, or not, taking everything else into account.

ManateeFair · 14/11/2023 16:39

namechannger · 14/11/2023 14:13

To be clear, I haven't bannned w*nking! Or even said he can't use the toys. I came on here to say that I am feeling uncomfortable about it. I'm aware of the double standard and that this could be BU which is what I wanted to unpack with other women (not something I feel ready to discuss with mutual friends).

The difficulty is, as one pp put it, it's giving me the ick, which is then making the prospect of getting our sex life back on track seem more difficult.

Just trying to air these feelings and see if anyone understands and has suggestions about how we can move forward - assuming we both want things to work, which we do.

I think that only you can ever really know why you are OK with him wanking, but not if he uses a sex toy. It's literally just an appliance to make things easier.

Are you assuming it's one of those Fleshlight things that is moulded to look like a vagina? Because there are loads of Fleshlight type toys that don't look that at all - just like there are loads of vibrators that don't look like a penis. Or do you suspect he's bought a butt plug or something and the thought of that bothers you?

Ultimately, he is indeed right that what he is doing is natural and harmless and that he needs some sort of outlet for his libido. I don't think 'It gives me the ick' actually makes much difference here, given that you don't feel like having sex with him when you don't have the ick either.

Regarding his comment about him not minding if you used a vibrator - have you ever actually used one?! Because that could actually be quite a good way of boosting your own libido without feeling under any pressure or having to worry about someone else's pleasure. I think lack of sex can be a vicious circle - the less often you do it and the more that becomes a big deal, the more pressure/guilt you feel and then you want it even less. If you can try using a vibrator on your own (typically much less effort than just using your hand and with less preamble required) and get used to enjoying sexual feelings/pleasure again, you might find sex with your husband becomes a more appealing prospect.

adriftabroad · 14/11/2023 16:42

I just looked them up.

Wish I had not. Definite ick.

FGS You are having sex. A lot more than most.

Ballsbaill · 14/11/2023 16:42

DugInLikeAnAlabamaTick · 14/11/2023 13:42

Yeah I would be a little grossed out by this too to be honest

but then I have never used a vibrator or even had the thought to

Well good for you. Does it make you morally superior?

I have toys and my bf knows and encourages it because he doesn't have such low self esteem as many of you lot.

I'd rather my partner used a toy than watched porn. I find it weird that she's OK with porn but not toys

Parentofeanda · 14/11/2023 16:43

People saying the vagina toys are repulsive... 🤨 But us woman can use fake penis's? ... Great equality there

Wolfpa · 14/11/2023 16:44

What has he bought? If it is a life size sex doll then I can see where the ick comes from but everything else is just a toy for pleasure. Don’t make this something he has to be ashamed of

soggytodger · 14/11/2023 16:46

the whole thing is icky, surely if he didn't watch porn he wouldn't have sex on his mind all the time, makes no sense. but it would also be kind of weird to stop him doing what he wants to do. can you find someone else?

adriftabroad · 14/11/2023 16:46

I am referring to the arsehole ones on love honey.

adriftabroad · 14/11/2023 16:47

and the blow job ones

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 14/11/2023 16:50

SomeoneSaidSomethingAboutSometime · 14/11/2023 14:30

Would you rather a prostitute?

Eh? For decent men, that would never be an option. 🙄

For decent men porn wouldn't be an option.

BowlOfNoodles · 14/11/2023 16:53

Less offensive that him finding a willing sexual partner surely?

adriftabroad · 14/11/2023 16:55

BowlOfNoodles · 14/11/2023 16:53

Less offensive that him finding a willing sexual partner surely?

Is sex once or twice a week not enough?

Changehappens · 14/11/2023 16:55

namechannger · 14/11/2023 14:13

To be clear, I haven't bannned w*nking! Or even said he can't use the toys. I came on here to say that I am feeling uncomfortable about it. I'm aware of the double standard and that this could be BU which is what I wanted to unpack with other women (not something I feel ready to discuss with mutual friends).

The difficulty is, as one pp put it, it's giving me the ick, which is then making the prospect of getting our sex life back on track seem more difficult.

Just trying to air these feelings and see if anyone understands and has suggestions about how we can move forward - assuming we both want things to work, which we do.

Everyone understandably has their own thoughts on this. Personally speaking if DH suddenly produced a toy it wouldn't give me the ick in the least but I would find it tremendously funny 🤣
Sometimes you just have to laugh 🤣

43ontherocksporfavor · 14/11/2023 16:57

Once or twice a week is a lot!

VanityDiesHard · 14/11/2023 17:03

YABVVU. Be thankful he isn't cheating/going to a sex worker.

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