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I think parenting broke our relationship

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User8273738273737 · 03/11/2023 20:42

TL;DR - after having a child, it seems DH has had a minor personality transplant. Yes he is a present and loving father and partner, but the differences in how much time and mental space we dedicate to things involving family life, and problems in communication, are driving a huge wedge and I’m so tired of carrying the emotional labour of trying to resolve problems and to improve our lives. I think I might end up falling out of love with him, which is unthinkable.

DH is a good man/person/H.
A considerate and generous lover. Does (sometimes more than) his fair share of the ‘here and now’ tasks that come with being an adult and a parent. DD is 18 months old.
The mental load is largely mine. I do the baby admin of making sure clothes are size/season appropriate, all the consumables (nappies, wipes, creams, you name it), book vaccines, found the nursery, did and do all the research re equipment, furniture, weaning, etc. add to that the finding sitters for dates, the looking for solutions for our problems, etc. I also do the here and now stuff, but he does some things more than me (eg wakes up with DD waaaaay more than I ever have. Am hugely grateful for that), and the household tasks are more or less evenly shared. My health hasn’t been great for most of our relationship so I ended up taking the admin/mental load as I saw it as a fair compromise, given I could do it lying down.

We had DD about 3 years into our relationship. From meeting, it was lovely. A mixture of calm but passionate, no head fuck involved. So much in common, could talk for days nonstop. Came to trust him inherently, which is a huge deal, given my previous experiences (in general, not just romantic). Sex was great and mutually satisfying. We shared body, mind and soul. It was a stark change from my previous relationships, and I appreciate it, and him, hugely.

But parenting has a way of shining a light on differences and incompatibilities.

The pregnancy and birth were very traumatic (part of the reason he was up with DD way more than I was, at least in the beginning ). He was my absolute rock and so supportive, considerate and loving.
The day to day, tho… now that we’re beyond the initial hurricane of traumatic birth, and having a newborn, and my health is better, I’m just getting more and more annoyed at some of our ‘discrepancies’. I’m the kind of person that researches and thinks about options and double checks, etc. DH does it, if he ever even notices it needs doing, without thinking. Lots of mistakes or inconveniences happen. I end up just doing stuff myself because it’s easier. I’ve come to a point where I’m not sure I trust him with some safety related things, nevermind with lesser stake stuff.

His job is much more demanding than mine and I do take that into consideration.

When I do finally reach the end of my tether and say something, I’m then faced with dead cats on tables, whataboutery, sidetracks, things turned on me. Some of it was justified, albeit I think he should bring things up himself rather than wait for me to raise something, to mention things he’s unhappy about. I listened to it, and changed my ways, and he agrees with that.
Then we have a calmer conversation the next day, Then noting changes, repeat. Over and over again. I’m feeling so deflated. I don’t know what to do. I feel more and more distant emotionally and like it’s inevitable this will end, because I don’t want to find myself in a worse situation a decade from now wondering why I gave it a decade when I knew what would happen.

Thoughts?

OP posts:
Starmoonsu · 03/11/2023 20:53

I’m not really clear what the current issues are. Is it because the mental load of childcare is falling on your shoulders? It sounds like he helps out but you’re the one making decisions about clothes etc.

BananaSpanner · 03/11/2023 21:02

Sounds like you had a baby whilst you were still in the honeymoon period of your relationship and now life is more of a hard slog.

To be honest, whilst he doesn’t sound perfect, he sounds like he pulls his weight- he works the more stressful job yet still does the vast majority of the wake ups…is it so bad that you do more of the organising and decision making?

LoneFemaleTraveller · 03/11/2023 21:07

Why wait to speak until you are raging?

what do you mean by dead cats on table?

Slav80 · 03/11/2023 21:13

I am not clear what the issues are, it sounds like you do the parenting as a team, divide and concur so to speak, you both do what you are good at, he sounds supportive and gets up early with your kid, he also has a more demanding job, maybe higher pay? Parenting changes the dynamic of a relationship for sure, I am just not clear from your post OP what is lacking and what you need changing - sharing the mental load?

desikated · 03/11/2023 21:22

Becoming parents with someone else is hard and it does change dynamics. Me and my husband were together for 10+ years before having a child and had been through a lot, and the change in him / us since a child has been really astonishing. I know that my experience isn't isolated.

Interestingly, I also went through a v traumatic pregnancy and birth and my husband has had to do a lot more of the getting up with my daughter and physical stuff. And so, I have taken up the admin role.

As PP say, what do you want to be different? I don't know, but i suspect, you are seeking for a 'meeting of minds' which is tricky because that is pretty difficult to aim for. But I do think the first step is talking - not when there is a something really annoying you or you are at the end of the tether, but when you are feeling ok ish and can put the cards on the table.

Having a traumatic birth and pregnancy is f*ing hard. Really hard. It really means that the start of parenthood is much harder and you are living with the memory of that. He might be feeling that to (probably is tbh) so I wonder if that needs some discussion to, or just acknowledgement.

Huntre · 03/11/2023 21:33

From what you have said, I can’t see what the problem is. He sounds pretty decent to me!

Maryamlouise · 03/11/2023 23:16

My first thought was also that he sounds pretty decent but I can sympathise - I sometimes imagine how nice it must be to only really think about yourself and not have your brain full of admin, logistics and what we are going to be eating etc. I think my actual issue is that I feel overwhelmed, underappreciated and like can't rely on him (if I was to try to delegate something like MOT or insurance etc it wouldn't happen so we'd be driving around with DC in car uninsured) - don't have a good solution though. I am trying to focus on positives and making sure I do stuff for myself (enough sleep, exercise, reduce other stress etc) and it has got easier as they get older.

Smartiepants79 · 03/11/2023 23:44

I don’t really understand some of what you’ve written towards the end? Dead’ cats??
What is it exactly that you would like him to do more of?
It is important for long term relationships to accept and make peace with the fact that people deal with things in different ways. They see things differently, have different priorities and will approach tasks differently.
No person is ever going to do everything you want or do it all they way that you would.
Me and my DH have different strengths and weaknesses. I’m better at small details and day to day life. He’s better at financial things and long term planning. I’m a huge over thinker and prone to anxiety and not coping well with difficult adult things. He’s better at being positive so he stops me spiralling.I think we probably both sometimes feel that the other is being unreasonable or unhelpful or not quite pulling our weight.
BUT I know we are better together than not. We piss each other off sometimes but we mostly balance each other out and life is 90% great.
Building a family together is a long term project. Some months (even years) will be a bit crap. It’s kind to me like you need to think hard about your expectations and what can be changed.

unlikelychump · 04/11/2023 00:00

I know exactly what you mean OP. My husband is the same. It is like his brain fell out and a pleasant robot was left.

I'm really downhearted about it; what a way to live.

ShutTheDoorBabe · 04/11/2023 00:42

How much admin does having a baby/young child need? I had two under two and don't remember having much to organise - vaccines were arranged by the surgery and I just turned up; nappies and stuff were just part of the mutual grocery shop; I don't remember ever researching anything. Could you be bringing more into your own head than what is actually needed?

What do you mean about the cats? Did you argue and he left a cat on the table as a weird punishment or something? If he a very who brings his work home? Is he Cat Butcher?

WarningOfGails · 04/11/2023 00:50

What sort of mistakes and inconveniences do you mean?

fuchsteufelswild · 04/11/2023 02:04

Dead cats on tables? That an idiom? Not a native speaker.

What @WarningOfGails said.

Brocollimatilda · 04/11/2023 04:45

What are examples of the issues? He doesn’t sound a problem tbh. What sort of safety things don’t you trust him with?

You are two different people so will parent differently and you will have different ways. Unless your parenting philosophies are so far apart that they cannot be reconciled you’ll find a way. My kids are all grown up now but they still know who to ask for what. See your differences as different strengths.

How old is your baby?

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SD1978 · 04/11/2023 05:08

Basically- to many people it looks a pretty reasonable split - he does a good share of the parenting, and is very present day to day- you have taken on the responsibility of the intermittent long term tasks, because you are/ were working less. A part of regularly knowing about nappies/ wipes, everything seems to be things that have to be done once a year, sometimes less? And clothes maybe theee times a year? But ultimately you're not happy with the division so you need to talk to him. He probably doesn't understand you're frustrated with wardrobe changing, maybe tell him?

LittleGlowingOblong · 04/11/2023 05:15

It sounds like you want the moon on a stick tbh.

Maybe you need a few date nights, or a weekend away together, to recover that calm yet passionate vibe.

Linzi2377 · 04/11/2023 05:19

I would thank your lucky stars to be honest x

hattie43 · 04/11/2023 05:20

Tbh you sound so intense and need to relax into parenthood . Not everything has to be done with military precision. You have listed a lot of qualities in your partner that others would crave . Don't push him away with unnecessary demands to suit your agenda and not the situation .

MafsisNafsbutcompelling · 04/11/2023 05:24

This sounds like normal parenting shit. When they are young it's so tiring and hard. By having someone you think is your bestest person do it with you it becomes something you get through together. And to have that person be someone you trust 100 is amazing. Stop being a nag.

this tired time will pass before you know it!

Olika · 04/11/2023 05:26

I don't quite understand what the issue is. What you describe sounds to me like a normal life with a todder. Are you looking for that early relationship excitement and fun?

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 04/11/2023 05:26

I mean - yeah, I agree with other posters. It doesn't sound like you do an awful lot more than he does, and his job is more intense? Does he earn more commensurate to the intensity? I read the replies thinking I must have missed something that would become clear but others think the same as me.

oh and for confused people dead cats on the table is like deflection during an argument. 'Never mind my behaviour, look at this dead cat/your behaviour/the cost of living/auntie Pat's gammy leg' etc

Newnamehiwhodis · 04/11/2023 05:29

It sounds like something you might need to weather.
and could maybe work on your communication more- both of you?
if you’re bottling up, and he is as well, this can cause harm over time for sure.

but it sounds like you have a good solid relationship to fight for.

hang in there - and this is coming from a poster who usually tells people to leave 🤣

Newnamehiwhodis · 04/11/2023 05:31

@PeacefulPottering , belittling people isn’t kind, is it?

someone else’s problems may seem inconsequential to you, but you clearly aren’t able to see from inside their lives- we can all get overwhelmed.

seriously, I don’t understand people who speak up just to cut others down. Give your head a wobble

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