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Can someone genuinely love you, but cheat?

201 replies

Sxs · 19/10/2023 16:02

Yes or No?

OP posts:
Toomanysquishmallows · 19/10/2023 16:03

No

Pumpkinpie1 · 19/10/2023 16:03

No

Eddyraisins · 19/10/2023 16:04

May think they do but not really.

Meadowdog · 19/10/2023 16:04

Yes (I would still leave them though).

Dinoswearunderpants · 19/10/2023 16:04

Yes they can love you but not respect you if they cheat.

Tweddle · 19/10/2023 16:04

No. It’s not love.

SaracensMavericks · 19/10/2023 16:05

I'd say it's possible but unlikely.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 19/10/2023 16:05

No

TomatoSandwiches · 19/10/2023 16:06

No 😂

Let me guess, a man told you this?

Choux · 19/10/2023 16:07

He might think he does but he doesn't respect you. He doesn't value what you have together enough to walk away from temptation.

In his head he matters more than you - find someone who puts your happiness ahead of or at least equal to his own.

NotObligedToArgueWithStrangers · 19/10/2023 16:08

Maybe, but they love themselves more.

Bature · 19/10/2023 16:10

Of course. Sometimes sex is just sex, tbh. It doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with you or their feelings towards you.

tigereyes10 · 19/10/2023 16:10

I believe they can love you, and cheat. It says more about their character and the fact they can compartmentalise their feelings. I'd obviously leave if it happened to me..but I do think men/women can love their partner and still cheat to get their kicks/ they have no morals / no self control. It's not the kind of love I want!

FartSock5000 · 19/10/2023 16:15

No. They may feel residual affection for all that you've shared but not real, deep love.

Someone who is so selfish as to cheat is putting their wants above all else and when you are that self centered, there isn't room to be open, honest and truly in love with another.

Syrupyslop · 19/10/2023 16:18

Someone who genuinely values the role you play in their live can (ie, they value the happiness you bring to their life). But not someone who loves you, no not in my opinion.

category12 · 19/10/2023 16:19

Pretty sure my ex loved me as much as he was capable of - but his love wasn't worth shit.

Syrupyslop · 19/10/2023 16:20

Bature · 19/10/2023 16:10

Of course. Sometimes sex is just sex, tbh. It doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with you or their feelings towards you.

But that's not love, is it? Because the cheater is entirely looking at it from their perspective. Love would mean looking at it from the spouse's perspective and not doing something that would hurt and devastate them.

Moonshine5 · 19/10/2023 16:20

Hard No (romantic love)
You can 'love' lots of general things

Sashya · 19/10/2023 16:22

People will give you different answers depending on how they see and experience sex.

....For some - and many women will be in this category - sex is an emotional and sexual connection. So - for those people love and sex are connected in a very strong way. They need emotional connection to have sex,
....For other - sex can be with an emotional connection OR without. I think it's rarer in women. And this is where the differences in opinions will come from. Sex without emotional connection is possible for these people. And they can love one person and have sex with another person. People in the above group can't relate to this.

I am not a man - before people start accusing me of that. I don't necessarily need an emotional connection to have sex. I think I did when I was younger. But with time - kids; experiences with different stages of relationships; losing my libido post babies and regaining it; getting older - things changed.

Maybe for women it's related to fertility and our stages in life. I don't know.
I do know that a lot of things seemed more black/white when I was younger. Less so now.

PurpleMonkeys · 19/10/2023 16:22

No

Or to put it another way.

Of someone truly loved you, they would do everything in their power to ensure you never hurt, never cry, always feel loved and would never betray trust. Cheating proves they don't give a toss about your feeling, your trust, you crying etc.

BHRK · 19/10/2023 16:23

Yes of course they can. Cheating says more about them than you. Many people love their partners but also want sexual variety

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2023 16:26

Not at all.
I would see it as an unforgiveable betrayal.

gwenneh · 19/10/2023 16:26

No.

I wouldn't choose to be with someone who saw sex as "just sex" though. We'd be incompatible. I also wouldn't stay with someone who valued "variety" over my feelings.

feelingfree17 · 19/10/2023 16:27

No
You don’t hurt the ones you love.

TuckingFypos · 19/10/2023 16:29

Yes.

If that person fully acknowledges what they've done and why, and seeks to change themselves and their situation to ensure it never happens again.

I was cheated on 8 years ago and after a period of intense self reflection on both sides, in hindsight it actually saved our marriage.

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