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Dating is awful

221 replies

Corastiredmummy · 21/07/2023 22:02

Just wondered how many other women in their late 30s absolutely despise dating in this era?
It seems most men just want you to either send them naked pictures or go on a first 'date' at their house. That is not date. That is a scene from a movie where the woman doesn't return home.
Guys on dating apps are total time wasters, or you meet them and they don't look like their pictures (and you've made an effort with hair washing/doing your makeup).
I'm 38, I look after myself very well, I'm successful....but sadly I live in Hull and it seems most of the men here are not at all what I'm after. I'm so over it :(

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Ollifer · 21/07/2023 22:05

Agree, it's a shit show. I can't believe the amount of guys who can't hold a basic conversation, ask for nudes straight away or send me a picture of their dick, or are just completely weird. I hate it

wayyour · 21/07/2023 22:09

Sounds grim. No I would not be going to their house for a first date! You're right there.

We were envious of a friend of ours who was dating as it sounded like so much fun. Turns out it was a lot like your OP and a lot of disappointments.

Corastiredmummy · 21/07/2023 22:18

wayyour · 21/07/2023 22:09

Sounds grim. No I would not be going to their house for a first date! You're right there.

We were envious of a friend of ours who was dating as it sounded like so much fun. Turns out it was a lot like your OP and a lot of disappointments.

It's atrocious. Men are vile pigs. Not all of them, no, but the good looking ones are mostly despicable ass hats. Because they can get what they want easily with loose women who will agree to rock up to their houses. I was married to someone I didn't fancy for years and it actually became unbearable to be intimate with him. So I refuse to choose someone I'm not attracted to again as I know how it ends. So I want someone hot...but they're all complete tossers. It feels like it's lose lose at the moment 😔

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samestyle · 21/07/2023 22:37

I'm finding it tough too, early 40's, even the ones Ive weeded out, I don't match often because I'm so fussy and they still turn out to be sex creeps, they Will pretend they are looking for a relationship just to get matches, but at least they let themselves down quickly. I'm down south, it's no better.

LightDrizzle · 21/07/2023 22:41

Sympathy! I am from Hull and DH was born there. I met him aged 32 post divorce and he’s a good one so they do exist.

I’m visiting tomorrow and off to The Lantern. Good luck hunting!

LightDrizzle · 21/07/2023 22:43

Oh and nice work with your losers and looses there 😉

EarthSight · 21/07/2023 22:55

If I want children, I should be making a big effort on dating every week, but I can't do that because I didn't find a single man on one popular app to tick basic boxes like attractive, has similar interests, doesn't seem creepy or strange.

I think it's like that most places OP. Online dating sounds fantastic in its promise, but in reality, it allows people to manipulate their overall image, including their appearance in a way that would be more difficult in real life, and for that reasons will attract more men that most women would rather not encounter.

I agree you shouldn't choose someone you're not attracted to, although there are plenty of sanctimonious women out there who either shame others for it, or encourage other women to lower their standards. Most women don't need that kind of advice because in my experience, most women don't require men who are models. They like someone who is clean, looks healthy, has a similar dressing style maybe. Then there's things like having nice eyes or a nice smile, hair. It's not exactly Vogue standard.

Hawkins0001 · 21/07/2023 22:56

Purely why I prefer old fashioned and getting to know a person as friends first, as online you only get a small perspective of their true personality

NudeLouboutins · 21/07/2023 23:06

Try meeting someone IRL and getting to know them/ becoming attracted to them first before going on a date. Don’t write off the shy/ quiet ones.

I know a number of amazing men who wouldn’t be seen dead on a dating app and some initially don’t have lots of ‘game’. They’ve usually ended up with people they already know, eg ex work colleagues, old school friends, people from their hobby.

Makes me sound ancient (I’m your age) but I think they come when you aren’t looking. Quality over quantity.

Strawberriesandpears · 21/07/2023 23:33

Hang on in there! I'm 36 and at the start of this year found the person who I think will be my life partner.

I have everything crossed for you (and everyone else in this thread who is looking for their special someone).

Strawberriesandpears · 21/07/2023 23:35

Oh and I think @NudeLouboutins advice about not writing off the shy / quiet ones is sound. That's probably where the gems are to be found! Was for me (although I am shy / quiet myself too).

ChristmasFluff · 21/07/2023 23:59

Och, it's easy and enjoyable - if you filter.

Reply if you fancy them (I'm over 50, so for this it's 'reply to anyone vaguely normal'.)

Bollocks to the shy. I invite everyone to a coffee date within the week. If they say no without offering an alternate date - ditch.

If anything goes wrong on the coffee-meet - ditch.

After that they are on their own - they arrange the dates. If they leave more than a week between dates - ditch

I require them to be exclusive before sleeping with them.

Once we are bf/gf that means OFF the apps. If he's on one - ghosting.

High standards are key. And if a man doesn;t live up to your standards - so what? Men are plentiful.

ilyana · 22/07/2023 01:17

Yeah, it's appalling. People will say it's hard being late thirties because men want younger women, but honestly...I have NEVER found dating apps any good. Even when I was a conventionally attractive, fit 28-year-old, I found it an utterly depressing, grim experience. I did indeed meet a lot of those 30-something men looking for a younger woman to have kids with, and it made me feel like a rent-a womb or something. Like they got to have their fun and live their lives and then wanted me to give up my life and become a mum on their timeline. Maybe some women are happy with that, but I wasn't. I wanted an actual partner, an equal.

I think Gods honest truth is that most men are just awful. They don't really see women as people, but more like objects or possessions. Even looking around at colleagues, friends' partners...most of them are awful as well. I watch them texting without a care in the world as their partners are run ragged around them, holding babies while trying to tidy up. I watch them sitting, sullen and monosyllabic, in restaurants while their lovely female partners are desperately trying to maintain a conversation. Most men don't seem to like women, at all. They just seem to tolerate them so they can get sex, kids, and other things they feel entitled to.

I have only had one good relationship in my life, where I genuinely felt we were truly best mates, and even he turned out to be an absolute tosser...got a promotion, got into fitness, and suddenly felt he was too good for me after nearly a decade. I just feel like I'm done with it. I'm not looking anymore, I'm just living my life, travelling, doing whatever I want, and if I meet someone, great. Trawling through apps is just destructive for my mental health. I'd rather be developing myself, my hobbies, learning new skills, making money. My life has come on leaps and bounds since I decided to just be independent and focus on myself. Wish I'd done it sooner.

Morewineplease10 · 22/07/2023 01:33

@ilyana

Great post! Totally agree!

hiddenvoices · 22/07/2023 03:40

When I was in my 20s I looked on a dating app over a period of a few weeks and had a couple of chats (on the messenger part of the site). They were nearly all married (quite open about the fact one or two - one excused it as his wife was an alcoholic). One even sent an extra photo of himself holding a young baby. He said it wasn't his, but by that point I didn't believe anything.

Needless to say there was no danger of my ever meeting any of these chancers and I de registered my account.

I dread to think what it would be like 20 years later, i.e. now I think it might be depressing.

hiddenvoices · 22/07/2023 03:41

I fear you're right @ilyana

Summer2424 · 22/07/2023 04:04

Hi @Corastiredmummy i totally hear you, i dated in my 30's too and it was terrible. I gave up for ages but then got back into it and found someone at 40 years old. Looking back now i wish i had carried on dating guys and not had that break. I'm now 42 with a 9mo baby.
I would say hang in there, don't give up, out of all the crappy ones you will find someone you connect with xx

sammylady37 · 22/07/2023 07:27

Because they can get what they want easily with loose women who will agree to rock up to their houses

^Loose women*? Nice bit of misogyny there.

ProseccoOnTap · 22/07/2023 07:35

It's worse in your 50's!

Apart from no dick pics as you're seen as an old dried out hag.

And men in their 50's are only interested in women in age 35-50 age range.

Utterly depressing

Corastiredmummy · 22/07/2023 07:40

sammylady37 · 22/07/2023 07:27

Because they can get what they want easily with loose women who will agree to rock up to their houses

^Loose women*? Nice bit of misogyny there.

Quite frankly, it's true. If you're willing to turn up to the house of a man you've never met for sex then you're as loose as a broken hair tie. And it's the same the other way around, any of these men would happily come to my house without knowing a thing about me. It's dangerous, and yes, it's loose.

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FridaRose · 22/07/2023 07:41

'but sadly I live in Hull'

OP in glitzy cities it can be even worse! I was single in Sydney between the ages 29-34 and the men there are like kids in a candy shop - they want to frolic with tanned beautiful ladies and nothing more.

The problem is if a man is decent, he knew he has lots of pretty/tanned women available. It was common to see lots of 40-50+ year old men in bars in Bondi, partying with 20-25 year old women. Sooo many single men there, nobody wants to settle down.

I knew some women actually moved back to England in order to find someone to start a family.

Kazzyhoward · 22/07/2023 07:45

NudeLouboutins · 21/07/2023 23:06

Try meeting someone IRL and getting to know them/ becoming attracted to them first before going on a date. Don’t write off the shy/ quiet ones.

I know a number of amazing men who wouldn’t be seen dead on a dating app and some initially don’t have lots of ‘game’. They’ve usually ended up with people they already know, eg ex work colleagues, old school friends, people from their hobby.

Makes me sound ancient (I’m your age) but I think they come when you aren’t looking. Quality over quantity.

Brilliant advice. I met my DH through hobby/volunteer work. We'd have never found each other otherwise. No sparks nor lust at first sight, but a "slow burn" over a few months and we've been happy and inseperable ever since, 35 years!

Dinofuror · 22/07/2023 07:58

Corastiredmummy · 22/07/2023 07:40

Quite frankly, it's true. If you're willing to turn up to the house of a man you've never met for sex then you're as loose as a broken hair tie. And it's the same the other way around, any of these men would happily come to my house without knowing a thing about me. It's dangerous, and yes, it's loose.

Ew, perhaps the issue is you? Casual sex isn't for me and it can be dangerous, but 'loose as a broken hair tie'- vile.

Anyway yes, there aren't hoardes of men online looking for serious relationships, why not get yourself out and about and try and meet people in person?

strof · 22/07/2023 08:08

ProseccoOnTap · 22/07/2023 07:35

It's worse in your 50's!

Apart from no dick pics as you're seen as an old dried out hag.

And men in their 50's are only interested in women in age 35-50 age range.

Utterly depressing

Agree it is soul destroying .I've given up on online and about to give up altogether .I'm a man aged 59.

sammylady37 · 22/07/2023 08:12

Corastiredmummy · 22/07/2023 07:40

Quite frankly, it's true. If you're willing to turn up to the house of a man you've never met for sex then you're as loose as a broken hair tie. And it's the same the other way around, any of these men would happily come to my house without knowing a thing about me. It's dangerous, and yes, it's loose.

What a disgusting way to talk about people and try to shame them for making different lifestyle choices to you.
And blaming them for your lack of success - nice. Perhaps a bit of reflection might not go astray.

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