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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

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JimiChoux · 09/05/2023 13:43

To be honest I would mention it to the neighbour.

WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:47

JimiChoux · 09/05/2023 13:43

To be honest I would mention it to the neighbour.

I’m not sure whether to just ask her “so do you know what made Dave cry yesterday?” Or whether to just have a chat and see if it comes up.

We don’t really talk much, she did a lot after she moved in but now she’s a lot more reserved. She will just say hello and then go inside. She always talks to DP though so that part isn’t odd.

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Sausagedognamedmash · 09/05/2023 13:47

I'd go and ask the neighbour. He clearly isn't going to tell you, however unless there is a big chunk of information missing here, the neighbour should have no issue telling you.

brokenbics · 09/05/2023 13:48

How old is your neighbour? Could he be having an inappropriate relationship with her?

Bathintheshed · 09/05/2023 13:50

I never suggest this on threads but in all honesty my first thought was that she called off an affair.

Clarice99 · 09/05/2023 13:51

brokenbics · 09/05/2023 13:48

How old is your neighbour? Could he be having an inappropriate relationship with her?

This was my first thought.

Perhaps the neighbour had ended the relationship, hence your DP crying?

Sheepsheepeverywhere · 09/05/2023 13:52

She dumped him..

78thcat · 09/05/2023 13:52

I would assume the same, an affair.

WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:54

brokenbics · 09/05/2023 13:48

How old is your neighbour? Could he be having an inappropriate relationship with her?

Hard to say (mainly because I’m rubbish at working out people’s ages) but I would say mid 40s. DP and I are slightly younger.

This is one possibility that’s gone through my head, I just can’t think what she could’ve said to make him cry. Even if they are/were he absolutely isn’t the type to cry or show any sort of emotion, he would more be grumpy/annoyed and hide his real feelings if someone upset him.

I can’t think of a single situation that would ever make him cry. Before I went outside my biggest worry was his phone had rang and he had bad news (I even asked DS was he sure he wasn’t on his phone), but even then I can’t imagine him letting himself cry!

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shysquirrel · 09/05/2023 13:54

Oh gosh, I think I'd have to ask the neighbour. Two possibilities immediately sprang to mind though, that he was having an affair with the neighbour, or that he's confiding in her about your relationship and is upset with something happening between you and him. Sounds pretty serious though if he's so upset and off with you

trulyunruly01 · 09/05/2023 13:55

I'll give the benefit of the doubt first off and ask: do you think the neighbour could have received some bad news, such as a death in the family, and your dp felt it was so sad that he got rather over emotional about it?
And my suspicious-minds possibles: is there something going on between dp and neighbour? Or does he want there to be? Or has the neighbour observed him elsewhere with someone else and has told him that he's been seen?

Hugasauras · 09/05/2023 13:55

My first thought is affair too. It's hard to think what else it could be, really. I would definitely ask her.

Sparkletastic · 09/05/2023 13:56

Could he have accidentally killed an animal with mower then had to drive somewhere to dispose of body? This is a reach but kind of fits the odd facts 🤷🏻‍♀️

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 13:56

I don’t think it’s your place to go and ask the neighbour.
Clearly this was something personal to you partner.
Bit rude to go and demand gossip.
Give it time.
If he tells you, he tells you, if not - then not.
It’s up to him.
Don’t interrogate him more (or her).
It’s none of your business.

Are you usually this pushy btw?

Hugasauras · 09/05/2023 13:57

Also I would just say to DP: 'There's no point denying it, DS and I both saw you clearly crying. So do you want to tell me what the problem is? Or do I have to ask X?'

I wouldn't like being told something I saw didn't happen when I know full well it did!

shysquirrel · 09/05/2023 13:57

I assumed that the driving was so he could compose himself before coming back (but that's solely based on what I do)

shysquirrel · 09/05/2023 13:58

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 13:56

I don’t think it’s your place to go and ask the neighbour.
Clearly this was something personal to you partner.
Bit rude to go and demand gossip.
Give it time.
If he tells you, he tells you, if not - then not.
It’s up to him.
Don’t interrogate him more (or her).
It’s none of your business.

Are you usually this pushy btw?

Pushy? Her DP is crying. I assume she's concerned rather than demanding.

Hugasauras · 09/05/2023 13:58

Sparkletastic · 09/05/2023 13:56

Could he have accidentally killed an animal with mower then had to drive somewhere to dispose of body? This is a reach but kind of fits the odd facts 🤷🏻‍♀️

It's funny because the only two times I have seen my DH cry in 10+ years have both been animal related: when he hit a pheasant with his car and it was still alive but very badly injured and he had to kill it at the side of the road to put it out of its misery. He came home in tears. And when our old dog died. But surely he'd just say if something like that had happened? Do you have a pet that has mysteriously gone missing, OP?!

DucksNewburyport · 09/05/2023 13:58

He's gaslighting you OP. Does he have form for lying to you?

determinedtomakethiswork · 09/05/2023 13:59

That is really strange. I wonder as well why she doesn't talk to you much when she does talk to him and she used to talk to you.

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 09/05/2023 13:59

My theory is that she reminded him about the end of Titanic when Jack sunk that set him off.

Spoiler alert by the way.

Longwhiskers · 09/05/2023 14:00

Was he definitely crying? And not watery eyes from hay fever or an insect hitting his eye or something? As you say very odd that he would Cry in front of a more or less stranger.

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

shysquirrel · 09/05/2023 13:58

Pushy? Her DP is crying. I assume she's concerned rather than demanding.

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

Irritateandunreasonable · 09/05/2023 14:01

My first thought is she’s dumped him. I would go and ask her what’s going on.

If he lied to me about not crying again I’d ask him to leave the house for a few days, I can’t cope with being Gas lighted.

Bathintheshed · 09/05/2023 14:02

Alternatively could neighbour have said she has seen you having an affair? Hence him acting angry? Or him with someone else, calling him out? Either way he went out there in the rain as it was a pre arranged meet up between them. Most likely an affair.

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