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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Irritateandunreasonable · 09/05/2023 14:02

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

I find your POV much more unhealthy tbh.

OP has been perfectly normal in her reaction.

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 09/05/2023 14:03

It seems a bit weird that he will talk to the neighbour about it and not you but I don't think there's not much else you can do about it if he won't say anything.

If the neighbour won't tell you because it's personal or whatever, there's probably a big chance they'll mention you've asked them too.

I don't really understand the lying about it and saying it didn't happen though. He'd have been better off saying he felt a bit upset and just doesn't want to talk about it.

Prettypaisleyslippers · 09/05/2023 14:03

I wonder if she knows something that would damage him and/or your relationship. He may have been trying to stop her from telling you something.

His reaction to your questions are huge red flags. How long have you been together?

Tickabillar · 09/05/2023 14:06

Go and ask the neighbour. Are you at home now? Go and ask. I want to know why now.

78thcat · 09/05/2023 14:07

How long have you been neighbours? Has there been much interaction between the neighbour and you/DP, what's the history ?

whyisitalwayswindy · 09/05/2023 14:07

I'm wondering affair too. Personally I wouldn't ask the neighbour, for two reasons.

One, if it was an affair then she will deny and he will deny so you're no further forward, I'd keep my powder dry on his one.

Second, I do think it's a bit odd to go and ask the neighbour about a convo your DP has had with her. I know you're concerned but I'm inclined to agree with a PP that if your DP won't tell you then it's a bit disrespectful to go behind his back (I know other people don't think it's odd, just my opinion).

Personally I'd ask DP again and say both me and DS saw you and that the car had gone. If he denies or makes a crap excuse then leave it there BUT keep your wits about you as something is going on.

CreamTeaThievery · 09/05/2023 14:07

The only possibility I can think of is an affair but I am very cynical.

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:07

Irritateandunreasonable · 09/05/2023 14:02

I find your POV much more unhealthy tbh.

OP has been perfectly normal in her reaction.

Luckily we have the option of agreeing to disagree!

80s · 09/05/2023 14:09

Neighbour told him someone had died, e.g. one of his exes or an OW?

ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 09/05/2023 14:10

80s · 09/05/2023 14:09

Neighbour told him someone had died, e.g. one of his exes or an OW?

I had just thought similar. Someone he knew had died/dying and he just didn't want to say anything straight away.

Tickabillar · 09/05/2023 14:11

Maybe she told him she saw him with another woman or she knows he's having an affair. Maybe she told him to tell you before she does and he's turned on the waterworks.

Shapemyeyebrows · 09/05/2023 14:11

@WhatTheHeal hmmm very suspicious. His reaction to you asking if he was ok was also a massive deflection and makes it even more suspicious. My two thoughts on this are either that your partner and neighbour are having an affair. Or that your neighbour has caught him out having an affair and is threatening to tell you. Hence him crying, maybe for sympathy so she doesn’t tell you? I would 100% be asking your neighbour- both you and your son saw him crying so if she denies it too then you know there’s definitely something going on that she’s involved in somehow.

Mars27 · 09/05/2023 14:11

Bathintheshed · 09/05/2023 13:50

I never suggest this on threads but in all honesty my first thought was that she called off an affair.

It's hard to think of anything else tbh, it's the only thing that came to my mind

Mumsanetta · 09/05/2023 14:13

This is very strange and my response would be similar to yours!

I wouldn’t ask the neighbour as that could be seen to be a breach of trust.

I would say to him “DS came in to ask me why you were crying, I looked out and saw that you were as well. You then disappeared off to the car for a while and are now lying to me about it and completely off with me. It’s fine if you want to keep this to yourself because we don’t have to share everything but now that you have lied to me, the question I have is should I be worried or angry?”

MumLass · 09/05/2023 14:13

I would find it difficult to accept that my partner, supposedly the closest person in the world to me, would get so upset talking to a neighbour, take off in the car and lie about it.

It's not being nosey or intrusive to want to know what is going on. I speak from experience, from being kept very much at arms length for the duration of my marriage. As it turns out I had no fecking clue what was going on, much to my own detriment.
I fully accept that we are not entitled to our nearest and dearest's innermost thoughts. I also know that what I want from a relationship is open, honest communication and a feeling of really being a partnership. Not an outsider.

ChairFloorWall · 09/05/2023 14:14

shysquirrel · 09/05/2023 13:54

Oh gosh, I think I'd have to ask the neighbour. Two possibilities immediately sprang to mind though, that he was having an affair with the neighbour, or that he's confiding in her about your relationship and is upset with something happening between you and him. Sounds pretty serious though if he's so upset and off with you

Fgs 🤦‍♀️

Shapemyeyebrows · 09/05/2023 14:14

@WhatTheHeal also, do you not think he could have taken the car key to go and sit in the car to compose himself?

Highdaysandholidays1 · 09/05/2023 14:15

The first odd thing is going to do the mowing in the rain when normally he would not mow the grass in the rain.

The second is the crying when he never normally cries.

The third is the deflection, being grumpy, wanting to go to sleep. Surely if he'd injured an animal or heard about someone ill he'd have just said that, not come out with some accusation that you are judging him for taking too long.

It's all very odd and not explicable from the outside. I guess keep your eyes and ears open.

QueenSmartypants · 09/05/2023 14:15

I would speak to him again when it's just the two of you and he's feeling relaxed / safe.

He clearly feels very vulnerable about being emotional - going for a drive would have been to give himself privacy to pull himself together - and while I don't agree with him lying to you (especially denying what you saw) I can understand why he did.

Speak to him in a non-confrontational way when there is no one else around and see how that goes before you hit the panic button about possible affairs etc

Dartmoorcheffy · 09/05/2023 14:15

Bizarre. Would he answer his phone if someone else rang but he doesn't answer to you??

AntoniaMacaronia · 09/05/2023 14:15

We don’t really talk much, she did a lot after she moved in but now she’s a lot more reserved. She will just say hello and then go inside. She always talks to DP though so that part isn’t odd.

I'm adding two and two and getting five here. Especially with him being so nippy with you.

pizzaHeart · 09/05/2023 14:17

80s · 09/05/2023 14:09

Neighbour told him someone had died, e.g. one of his exes or an OW?

It was my first thought too and there was something dodgy about his relationship with this person that why he didn’t want to talk about it e.g OW or OM.

Has he got children of his own? And how well does he know the neighbor? Do you trust him not to have an affair?

78thcat · 09/05/2023 14:20

The only other possibility apart from an affair that I can think of is that he is in an abusive relationship with you and has confided in the neighbour. Domestic violence happen to men too. That would explain not wanting to talk about it.
Sorry OP if this is barking up the wrong tree, but thought I'd throw it out there.

IfYouDontAsk · 09/05/2023 14:21

I think I would say to DP “I know what I saw and I know that you’re lying to me. If you’re not going to tell me the truth then I will ask Jill.” And if he’s not forthcoming then I absolutely would.

purpleboy · 09/05/2023 14:21

He is gaslighting you. You saw him crying with your own eyes, he is denying it happened.
He is hiding something from you, and the description of your relationship with your neighbour would have me questioning if something was going on between them.

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