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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Pineda · 09/05/2023 14:58

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

Huh? I would be even more 'pushy' than the OP, tbh

RelaxingClassics · 09/05/2023 14:59

What if the husband has been building a narrative of being in a desperately unhappy relationship with a controlling spouse (hence the tears) and OP trots over to the neighbour demanding to know what they were talking about?

The neighbour is quite as capable of lying as the husband is. Speaking to the neighbour will get her no further forward but actually might worsen her already fragile relationship with her partner.

PleaseSendNoodles · 09/05/2023 15:00

OP this whole thing is so weird. You must be so confused. I’d already have been over to the neighbour if I were you!

TeamSleep · 09/05/2023 15:02

I’d ask the neighbour. But if is an affair she’s not going to be helpful. Could him accidentally killing an animal with the mower and not wanting to admit it to you be a possibility? That seems plausible.

SleepingStandingUp · 09/05/2023 15:03

The neighbour, who talks to the DP and doesn't really tall to the OP, is not going to suddenly say "oh yes, I made him cry telling I'm pregnant by him / I'm dumping him". She's also highly unlikely to aay "oh yes, let me tell you all the stuff he's chosen to not tell you".

All op does is come across as controlling (how dare he share his emotions with anyone but me!) and piss of a partner who has a right to privacy re his own emotions.

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 15:06

Bobshhh · 09/05/2023 14:30

I’m amazed that everyone thinks affair.

My thought reading it is hayfever! I never get it but there’s something in the air occasionally that makes my eyes incredibly red and painful and runny so on the outside it definitely looks like I’m crying but I’m really not!

Firstly, I think the OP would know if her partner gets hayfever. And he say if it was.
Secondly, why would he take off in the car?
Thirdly, why would he be stressed, unable to sleep, and short with the OP?

This ain't hayfever, lol.

FurAndFeathers · 09/05/2023 15:06

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

It would be much weirder to ignore out of character distress from an intimate partner.

it’s odd that you would find concern from an intimate partner about your obvious distress ‘pushy’ and ‘unhealthy’

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 15:08

SleepingStandingUp · 09/05/2023 15:03

The neighbour, who talks to the DP and doesn't really tall to the OP, is not going to suddenly say "oh yes, I made him cry telling I'm pregnant by him / I'm dumping him". She's also highly unlikely to aay "oh yes, let me tell you all the stuff he's chosen to not tell you".

All op does is come across as controlling (how dare he share his emotions with anyone but me!) and piss of a partner who has a right to privacy re his own emotions.

He does not have the right to keep secrets in a marriage, and to be short with the OP, or to gaslight her. And the neighbour's reactions will tell OP a lot even if she doesn't say anything. OP has the right to know. This is actually very serious and I don't understand people minimising it. If I were OP I would demand the full truth or else I'd ask him to leave.

SnackQueen · 09/05/2023 15:11

Excuse me while I dash to the shops to buy a TRUCK LOAD of popcorn.

WinchSparkle80 · 09/05/2023 15:11

Out the park suggestion but does he have hayfever? mowing the lawn can trigger it really badly for me and I look like I am sobbing but it’s just an allergy (not so bad when I remember the allevia!)

mfbx5sf3 · 09/05/2023 15:11

a) She called off their affair
b) She told him she is aware/ is going to inform you of another affair
c) She told him she is aware of him doing something inappropriate and/or illegal and is going to either tell you or report him to some authority.

WinchSparkle80 · 09/05/2023 15:12

Sorry just seen someone else suggested hayfever.

Climbles · 09/05/2023 15:13

mfbx5sf3 · 09/05/2023 15:11

a) She called off their affair
b) She told him she is aware/ is going to inform you of another affair
c) She told him she is aware of him doing something inappropriate and/or illegal and is going to either tell you or report him to some authority.

This ^

Mammajay · 09/05/2023 15:13

If I saw my DH crying I would absolutely want to know why. Not pushy to want to help someone you love

carly2803 · 09/05/2023 15:14

go see her.

ts bizarre

justanothernamechangemonday · 09/05/2023 15:14

I think she told him you are having an affair.

VirgoQueen · 09/05/2023 15:15

I'm thinking hayfever from mowing the lawn. Grass pollen.

whynotwhatknot · 09/05/2023 15:16

if it was hayfever why wouldnt he just say so

Ladybug14 · 09/05/2023 15:17

Very invested in the answer

Hope all works out OK

TellingBone · 09/05/2023 15:20

If they were having a clandestine affair she's not going to dump him on his own front lawn with his family able to witness it all through the window now is she?

Has everyone forgotten it was raining? Hence pissed off wet face at stupid decision to mow lawn in it.

Runningonjammiedodgers · 09/05/2023 15:20

Hope you get to the bottom of it OP

Magnoliainbloom · 09/05/2023 15:26

Could he have received bad news? Health diagnosis and confided in her.

You say he’s emotionally closed off. Could he be quietly battling depression?

Lidale · 09/05/2023 15:26

Ask the neighbour!!!!

booboo24 · 09/05/2023 15:28

My initial thought was they were having an affair and she's given him an ultimatum, or ended it. My other thoughts was that maybe she knows he's having an affair elsewhere and threatened to tell you. I say this based on:

She used to talk to you, but has backed off to just polite chit chat

She talks to your husband regularly, despite no longer talking to you

He was crying. If it was hay-fever he'd say, and you'd know anyway, there's a huge difference between eyes watering from an allergy and crying.

He denied said crying

He went to mow the lawn....and didn't until after the chat

He composed himself in the car first, or drove to try and shut something down

That's my opinion but I hope I'm wrong.

I can't see what you can do except see the neighbour. Do you have someone who would go with you as I would find this quite daunting in my own. I hope this turns out to be a huge misunderstanding, and that you're not left questioning it

WhiskersPete · 09/05/2023 15:28

Ask her!

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