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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
cocksstrideintheevening · 09/05/2023 14:24

Affair or he's been caught with someone else by her would my only explanation.

JJ8765 · 09/05/2023 14:26

I’m a parent of a disabled child which is exhausting and sometimes overwhelming. This is exactly something I would do on a bank holiday where other families get to have easy, uncomplicated days out doing stuff I can’t do anymore. Give the bloke some privacy you don’t get to police his thoughts and feelings.

MattTebbuttsDenimShirt · 09/05/2023 14:27

Hayfever? Happened a lot to Tracy Beaker.

Hmm sounds very odd. I'd I ask the neighbour!

Napoleonsjosephine · 09/05/2023 14:29

Well,you know he lied about the crying, the leaving and the fact it wasn’t a quick hello.

so if also assume he’s just been dumped or given an ultimatum or something. I’d assume she will lie too. Are there other females living at the neighbours house?

Napoleonsjosephine · 09/05/2023 14:30

JJ8765 · 09/05/2023 14:26

I’m a parent of a disabled child which is exhausting and sometimes overwhelming. This is exactly something I would do on a bank holiday where other families get to have easy, uncomplicated days out doing stuff I can’t do anymore. Give the bloke some privacy you don’t get to police his thoughts and feelings.

Um you do know the op isn’t about the fact he went to cut the grass, right?

Bobshhh · 09/05/2023 14:30

I’m amazed that everyone thinks affair.

My thought reading it is hayfever! I never get it but there’s something in the air occasionally that makes my eyes incredibly red and painful and runny so on the outside it definitely looks like I’m crying but I’m really not!

CalpolDependant · 09/05/2023 14:30

Check his phone. Texts, calls, photos, emails and search history. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Before anyone says I’m a controlling arsewipe, I’ve never checked my husband’s phone like this. But then I’ve never found my husband crying while he mows the lawn.

TBF, I’ve never found my husband mowing the lawn.

Napoleonsjosephine · 09/05/2023 14:30

Sorry op, to add, I’d assume he went to cut the grass as an excuse ro be out there so she had an opportunity to talk to him, ie it was arranged

Moveoverdarlin · 09/05/2023 14:30

Weirdest thing about the post is that you’ve never had a phone conversation with your DP in the whole time you’ve been together. Must take ages on WhatsApp to type out all your conversations.

ChocChipHandbag · 09/05/2023 14:31

Do they know any people in common, is it possible that someone they both know (but you don't). has has died or suffered a tragedy and she was telling him?

Eg is it his house that you live in, in an area where DP are both locals but you arrived more recently?

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Napoleonsjosephine · 09/05/2023 14:31

Bobshhh · 09/05/2023 14:30

I’m amazed that everyone thinks affair.

My thought reading it is hayfever! I never get it but there’s something in the air occasionally that makes my eyes incredibly red and painful and runny so on the outside it definitely looks like I’m crying but I’m really not!

Do you not think she’d know if he had bad hay fever then?

Newname2323 · 09/05/2023 14:31

did you see the neighbours face at all? Was she also visibly upset or angry or was she seemingly speaking normally? If it were to be an affair you'd think the neighbour would also be emotional. Very odd and to me it seems something was up from the beginning as you say he went to garden in the rain.

If it were me in your shoes, I'd ask him again and if he isn't honest I'd go and ask the neighbour if she knew why DP was upset yesterday as your worried. I suspect she will tell you if it's nothing sinister and I think you will definitely know if it was an affair by her response.

Softoprider · 09/05/2023 14:33

@CalpolDependant

TBF, I’ve never found my husband mowing the lawn.

Nor me. Now that would be something if I actually found him doing anything :)

SBHon · 09/05/2023 14:34

It’s odd to outright deny that he was crying.

If I was having a private cru and didn’t want to talk about it, even with my DP, I’d say something like “I don’t want to talk about it right now but I’m ok”, not try and deny what someone saw with their own eyes.

Napoleonsjosephine · 09/05/2023 14:35

We don’t really talk much, she did a lot after she moved in but now she’s a lot more reserved. She will just say hello and then go inside. She always talks to DP though so that part isn’t odd

yeah that’s weird…

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 14:36

My first thought, @WhatTheHeal ? I know this will sound bizarre, but...

They were having an affair, she got pregnant and now he is stressed out and worried what it means for your relationship and family. I don't know why, but that is my very first thought.

Either way, I would most definitely ask her, and watch her facial expressions as she replies to you.

Prinnny · 09/05/2023 14:36

He’s doing the neighbour.

SBHon · 09/05/2023 14:37

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

But do you not think it’s more odd that the DP denied what the OP saw? It’s ok if he wants to have a private cry and not talk about it but to pretend it hadn’t happened is bizarre. Just say “I don’t want to talk about it”.

BeverlyHa · 09/05/2023 14:38

they are having an affair

FatFool · 09/05/2023 14:38

Neighbour obviously finished with him

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 14:38

The fact he was restless and didn't sleep basically says it's more serious than just the neighbour shared bad news of her own like her relative dying. That wouldn't keep OP's husband up, make him restless, and off with OP. Whatever it is, it is really stressing the husband and keeping him awake at night.

whynotwhatknot · 09/05/2023 14:38

if it is an affair the neighbour isnt going to tell you anything

dont like the fact hes gaslighting you about the crying

RandomUsernameHere · 09/05/2023 14:39

Sorry but I also would think affair and she ended it. Not sure what else it could be that would really upset him but he couldn't tell you. If she'd told him something really sad like that someone had died, there would be no need to be secretive about it.

Bigpinktrain · 09/05/2023 14:40

Could he be confiding in her about struggles of looking after disabled/SEN children and perhaps doesn’t want you to know he is struggling… (trying to offer anything but affair!)

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