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Why do people stay in unhappy relationships?

222 replies

Cluelessat33 · 20/01/2023 11:54

I'm saying this from the perspective of someone who ended their marriage a few years ago, and I'm aware there are other factors such as abuse.

But where there is no control and abuse, why do people stay in relationships that are clearly unhappy and make them unhappy. I was reflecting on this the other day when a friend asked me if I'd consider marrying again.

I thought about it and reflected that very few of my close friends in established relationships, whether married or not, seemed to be happy. And not jyst run of the mill unhappy, but deeply unhappy with their spouse, their married situation, who feel lonely, unloved etc. Why would you stay?

I'm not saying the alternative is perfect. It's hard. finances are hard, single parenting is hard. But surely it has to be better than being lonely in a relationship with someone. I've been there so I understand this.

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DelilahBucket · 20/01/2023 12:00

Convenience or no wanting to rock the boat, particularly where there are children involved.

Moonlightsonatas · 20/01/2023 12:03

I think you really skimmed over the “single parenting is hard/finances are hard”. For some people, it’s not just hard it’s impossible.

Cluelessat33 · 20/01/2023 12:06

@Moonlightsonatas I'm not sure I did. I don't by any means underestimate the challenge. I don't earn much at all so believe me I do not underestimate this as a challenge.

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StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 20/01/2023 12:06

often it's down to economics or a fear of being alone. even though their current situation is bad they can't quite cope with the idea of being alone. alone is so underrated imo.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 20/01/2023 12:07

and if there are kids there's obv a whole other layer of complication. not wanting to upset their lives.

C1N1C · 20/01/2023 12:07

One word: easier... in a relative sense.

I'd imagine most people are happy on what they want, but not necessarily in what they need.

I think many people endure relationships because they have 9/10 material securities and overlook their happiness, which is that BIG 1/10 element. If they leave, they worry they'll lose it all. Plus maybe that fear of will the next person be able to handle all that baggage...

JamSandle · 20/01/2023 12:08

Fear
Self-esteem

Moonlightsonatas · 20/01/2023 12:09

Dating again would be hard too. As people get older they are more likely to have kids and then there is the blended family element.

Bedazzled22 · 20/01/2023 12:13

Its also the responsibility of breaking up when you have children. Being the one “breaking up the family” but of course the reality is that often the other party is the one whose actions break the family.

Staying in a bad relationship grinds you down. We only have one life…

Cluelessat33 · 20/01/2023 12:16

@Bedazzled22 that's my thought. I agree it's hard. I've done it and wow its hard and the guilt at the time is painful. But we have this one life. So many people I know committed in their 20s and now in their 30s have grown apart, or realised they are different people. They could probably have healthy happy relationships with other people.

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Idontknowhatnametochoose · 20/01/2023 12:17

Some people would rather be with anyone than alone. This could come down to self esteem issues or just never really growing up due to childhood abuse etc.

Finances can also play a massive role.

I left my ex DH while I had severe health issues and full time care of a young DS with significant SEN. But we were renting at the time with no real assets to share plus I had been on my own a lot as a child and was used to being self sufficient. Those things make a difference.

Warspite · 20/01/2023 12:17

For me it was the conveyor belt of good times, bad times, good times, bad times which kept me in a long term relationship thence our marriage. I was always looking for solutions whereas he never did, and hoping tomorrow will be better. It never was.

In the end I was burnt out & one day got snappy with a dear male colleague. It was then that I realised my relationship was turning me into someone I didn’t want to be. Always fighting my corner with a wretched philandering controlling narcissist.

I made a plan, started saving. I got out & I got happier! Apathy might be the killer for staying but sometimes it just takes one wise word (or two) from someone beyond the family or social group to turn the key. Slowly slowly catchy monkey.

He’s passed away now. I haven't mourned him.

strumpert · 20/01/2023 12:18

How do you know there's no control and abuse?

The only people who know what goes on behind closed doors are the people themselves

IceyDicey · 20/01/2023 12:20

Money. A reasonable lifestyle together, financial hardship alone.

Cluelessat33 · 20/01/2023 12:20

@strumpert no of course and i absolutely appreciate this. However this will not be the factor in ALL unhappy relationships.

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SeaweedGarters · 20/01/2023 12:25

Because who decides what's an acceptable level of unhappiness versus an unacceptable one? Maybe those people have decided that this is a 'good enough' relationship, while it doesn't make them want to tap dance in the street? Or think that being single (and not necessarily thrilled with life) is worse than being mildly unhappy in a relationship?

Lottapianos · 20/01/2023 12:26

'How do you know there's no control and abuse?

The only people who know what goes on behind closed doors are the people themselves'

This is an excellent point.

My parents and ILs are / were in very unhappy relationships. ILs (no longer with us) could barely stand to be in the same room together. In the 16 years I knew them, I don't think I ever heard a kind or affectionate word between them. I would say there was plenty of emotional abuse going on at the very least

My parents are still together despite his repeated infidelity, zero respect between them, and constant sniping and undermining each other. Total emotional neglect and abusive behaviour from both

I think in both cases it's a mix of their perceived shame around marriages ending and what people would say, fear of the unknown, and if I'm honest, getting quite a lot out of the martyrdom and 'duty' and 'sacrifice' of staying together. Gives me the horrors

SquirrelFan · 20/01/2023 12:27

Money

Justellingthetruth · 20/01/2023 12:31

@Cluelessat33

children
money
loneliness
mental health challenges
lack of confience
manipulation
scared

thin that covers most of it.

Toomanysleepycats · 20/01/2023 12:32

Maybe it’s the boiling frog analogy. You start off happy, then there’s a few things that make you annoyed, angry sad, but nowhere near enough to even think of leaving.

You get used to the status quo, tell yourself no body’s perfect blah blah. You try and get a mindset where you just accept it or compartmentalise the issues. It gets a bit worse, you try talking, then maybe arguing. Then you try and live with it again.

You are feeling lack of respect from you partner, you briefly think what would it be like to leave, but money, housing, kids make you think it’s not worth it. You repeat these steps over and over again, until you get to the stage you know you want to leave, but the problems seem too great. Keep repeating the above stage. The sunken cost fallacy comes into play.

Then finally leaving is all you can think about. That pretty much sums it up for me, except my husband was an entitled bully with narcissistic traits, so there was quite a bit of fear involved. Sometimes there will be a final straw, or they will do something that is so outrageous that the scales fall from your eyes. Or like me they go to a therapist who tells you that you are not the problem, but they are.

I was talking to my therapist yesterday and asked if she thought he had narcissistic traits. She said, I’m thinking further than that. When I asked what she meant she replied, I’m thinking there’s some psychopathy there.

No one, but no one would think this of my fun, charismatic and charming husband. So there is a chance that these marriages where you don’t see control and abuse, there is in fact all sorts of abuse going on.

A very telling question to ask yourself in a relationship is ‘Do I feel like I am an equal partner in this marriage?” My answer was a big fat no.

SpinningFloppa · 20/01/2023 12:36

I agree with another poster about how you skimmed over how hard being a single parent is. I didn’t have a choice to be one because my ex left me but if he hadn’t no I wouldn’t have left, my child has significant SN I’m unable to work, he won’t have them, I have no family help, he pays no maintenance like hell would I have left to do it alone if I had the choice. I wasn’t happy in the relationship but I’m not happy now either? Life is extremely hard work being a lone parent to a disabled child (plus other children) you can’t see why people would rather stay?

Cluelessat33 · 20/01/2023 12:39

I mean to put it in perspective, for me there was abuse. So verbal and emotional abuse. My self esteem was low. Very Low. What kept me for a while was fear, fear of the unknown, fear of finances, fear I couldn't cope alone. I suppose that reached a tipping point where that fear was outweighed by the bad. But for a long time I was desperate for him to give me clear cut get out clauses such as physical harm or an affair, because all the other stuff was too blurry qnd grey and insidious to put a finger on. Perhaps the boiling frog analogy does work @Toomanysleepycats

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MyNameisMathilda · 20/01/2023 12:40

I think the younger someone is the harder it is - less equity, savings , career , having young children and very difficult to get on the housing market. When you are older it is easier to say fuck that , get half of the equity and half of the pensions and grown up children.

Scarecrowrowboat · 20/01/2023 12:46

I didn't want to leave even though he was physically abusive and I was miserable with him. Honestly I'm not sure why. Maybe a combination of the fact that he'd broken my self esteem. I guess i felt like i was committed and there wasn't a way out. It'd been 10 years and i guess it was just what i was used to. He actually ended things in the end when he found someone new which broke me but was a hugely lucky escape.

Blossomandbee · 20/01/2023 12:47

As others have said, lack of confidence, not wanting to be alone, not wanting to break the family up, staying for sake of DC.

But also the cost is often prohibitive. Not everyone earns enough to support themselves. Rent is extortionate, social housing is not available to most, mortgages are very hard to get especially alone. Giving up a secure family home for all that uncertainty and possibly a huge drop in living standards is a big deal especially when there's children to consider.