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Anyone finding their feet after marriage ended?

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Chocolatepencil · 05/10/2022 10:41

Hello, just thought I’d see if anyone is still relatively new in finding their feet after their marriage ended?

The separation from him was fairly easy to deal with as it had got toxic but the breakdown of my family unit is something I’ve struggled with - although getting there - and looking forward to Christmas!

Any one care to join a thread about it? ☕

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NotReallySure · 23/03/2023 09:42

Oooh that's exciting @rockingbird and @EmptyInsidetothecore . A bit of flirtation would cheer me up no end right now 😂
Mine's stalling too, trying to manipulate everything! I hope it gets sorted quickly for you @Always4Brenner x

Always4Brenner · 23/03/2023 10:49

NotReallySure · 23/03/2023 09:42

Oooh that's exciting @rockingbird and @EmptyInsidetothecore . A bit of flirtation would cheer me up no end right now 😂
Mine's stalling too, trying to manipulate everything! I hope it gets sorted quickly for you @Always4Brenner x

I’ve put my foot down I want to pay the company direct not him and he pay all of it, he didn’t like that I told him “ it’s a legal thing and our separate accounts must show we’ve paid half each” he says “you really want me out of your life” I thinking carry on like this then yes.

I did the wrong thing in the marriage but since leaving my life has improved 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯over.

rockingbird · 25/03/2023 09:48

@Always4Brenner I can't get to my marriage certificate.. which I think is locked away in storage with the photo album and wedding dress I want to burn! On my list to obtain a copy. Financials will be painful..I'm stalling that until it's absolutely necessary! I'm not mentally ready for that sh*t show 😆

MidLifeCrisisMama · 26/03/2023 00:44

I found this thread just at the moment I needed it, and I have read all the messages and followed some of your stories from the message one all the way through. After several years of being in an unhappy marriage, we finally agreed to separate two weeks ago, and I am absolutely distraught, mostly at the fact that he seems utterly fine, happy, even while I am struggling with the enormous weight of grief, that my marriage, which I value and have worked so hard on, it’s over. we’ve struggled since our little one arrived. I had terrible PND and he isn’t the most emotionally supportive man. He’s quite lazy really and loves life on his germs for the most part. He’s quite confident and has an ego and I believe that some of his behaviour and words verge on emotionally abusive. But he also has a fun and kind and supportive side. I thought we both took our vows very seriously but it’s felt for awhile like he just couldn’t be arsed with baking the effort needed to get us on track. I will admit that I did get into debt - not a small amount - behind his back as I struggled to pay my way and keep things going when I was in maternity and after when I went back to work part time - but I’m paying back that debt, have asked him for nothing, have taken full responsibility and worked and continue to work my arse off to pay it back. It wasn’t done maliciously and it wasn’t spent on selfish things. I know what I’ve done is terribly wrong and a betrayal of his trust. I absolutely take full responsibility for it and told him the full truth (not because he’s found out but because I wanted to finally be honest).

I don’t know how to survive this process and we have a three year old who we want to share equal custody off. I can’t even begin to work out the finances as he earns significantly more than I do and despite my contributing so much more overall to our home in terms of capital investment, he wants half and will likely get it or not much less. He’s also already sexting and sex talking with another woman. Two weeks. That’s all it took for him to find someone to sext with (possibly meet?!). My heart is broken but he just seems excited to move on and be free again. The thought of only having half the time with my one and only child (who I went through hell to have and is a miracle and my absolute joy) is almost too much - and financially I am terrified about how the hell I'm going to buy a new home for me and him (well for the half of the time he’s with me).

I just feel broken.

threeandmeandthedog · 26/03/2023 08:32

@MidLifeCrisisMama - sorry to hear what an incredibly difficult time you are going through. I am sure you will find some support here. You sound like a very caring mum and your worries about the future are ones that many of us have had to face on this thread.

The thing that jumped out of me from your post is that you say you were struggling financially on maternity leave and had to get into debt to pay your way. Reading between the lines it sounds like your ex was financially abusive. A caring partner would provide for his partner on maternity leave and not watch them struggle. A caring partner would support thier partner in debt and be there so thier partner could talk openly about their worries, financial and otherwise. It sounds like you have done nothing wrong. You did what you had to to get buy and you had no other choice. There is nothing to be sorry for here. It is your ex who was in the wrong.

It May feel awful and overwhelming now. But it sounds like you have had a lucky escape. It’s an awful life to be trapped with someone who does not appreciate or care for you, or make you feel valued and loved and supported. It’s lonely and demoralizing and you loose yourself. You sound like you have probably done all the hard work in your relationship and your ex was lazy- so doing it by yourself, although daunting, will be something you are able to do and used to doing. It may not feel like it now but you will find your strength. It’s there in you and it’s got you this far, you are drawing on it all the time.

It feels hugely Overwhelming, but the awful shock and grief does slowly get better, day by day. It’s an emotional rollercoaster, but the balance will tip and there will be more and more moments when you feel relieved and free and strong. Call on all your friends and family for support if you can. Make sure you have someone you can talk to about this, it helps. Write things down and let your emotions and thoughts out, so they are not going around and around in your head.

You sound worried about finances and how your future will look. It’s really important to see a solicitor. Ask friends for recommendations. Many family law solicitors Will give you a free 30-60 min consultation. Ring around and line up 2 or 3. Prepare any questions you have and see who you like the sound of and who you thing will work for you. Many solicitors offer payment plans for when finances are settled. You can also do most of it yourself if it’s straightforward. But really important to get the correct legal advice re: custody of your child and finances.

Re: you ex and sexting. Try to focus on you. His behaviour sounds cold and uncaring. He has moved on and is looking for self validation from women he doesn’t know. You need to focus on you. There is absolutely nothing you can do about his behaviour. It’s a horrible feeling but he will do what he wants now. You may not feel it but you are strong, draw on your strength. Try your hardest to get rest, enough food to keep going and support where you can. The sense of grief and the overwhelming feelings at this time make this hard but you will be ok in time. Have you got anyone in real life you can be with today? ❤️ 💐

rockingbird · 26/03/2023 09:10

@MidLifeCrisisMama couldn't read and run, hang in there my lovely. Everything is very raw right now, rest assured those feelings of desperation won't last the anger will kick in soon. Use that anger to get smart and get talking to a solicitor, some good advice already given here - write it down and try to tackle one thing a day. All the while he's smiling dick happy you get the wheels in motion. Whatever he's up to won't, sadly this is a common occurrence.. the good news is there an army of us here all a little further down the line ready to help. Don't forget to take care of yourself! Your no good to anyone if your not in a good place mentally. Big girl pants on lady xx

Emptyinsidetothecore · 26/03/2023 09:24

@MidLifeCrisisMama darling this is so raw for you. I can only recommend 3 things:

  1. prioritise yourself first (then dc). Putting yourself first in every decision you make. it’s hard to do when you haven’t done it.

  2. find your circle of people you can rely on. Multiple people but those you entirely trust with your life and drop your guard with them. It might be close friends or family now, but could be (and likely to be) people you wouldn’t think you’d reach out to. You need a selection of people who have your back but in different ways - the friends who’s good practically, the one who’ll cry with you, the one who’ll challenge your thinking, the one who get angry with you. Create a WhatsApp group with them, as everyone has their own shit going on and at least one of them will be able to help you in your hour of need.

  3. prioritise exercise and being outside. It releases endorphins and happy hormones, even when you feel the opposite of happy. Walking, yoga, weights, running, anything. Do something to move your body (she says as she’s mumsnetting and scrolling 🙄)

be kind to yourself. We’re all here for you

Always4Brenner · 26/03/2023 20:07

@MidLifeCrisisMama all the best you hugs this is the hardest time the early weeks, you’ll get there. Your ex is a disgrace he’s done the same not you, that debt will clear.

Nelly10 · 27/03/2023 08:06

Anyone else like this? It’s been 6 months now since split. I’ve done lots of things to help counselling therapy, training spending time doing things I like, friends family. I feel like I’ve processed everything well, cried, got angry etc. Now I just don’t want to think about it anymore I’m done with thinking of his awful behaviour and how he treated me/he’s still vile over email. It’s like my brain is foggy when I think of the marriage. He was emotionally abusive. Is this finally acceptance or something else?

Lieslies · 27/03/2023 17:50

Help. Talk me out of this as I know it's just causing drama.

Kicked ex out 6 months ago because of his affair. He wanted to stay with me (he said) but went to live with her. Never really got any explanations and yes, I am bitter not so much about the affair but the disgusting way he treated me for several months after I found out.

I have screenshot of texts he sent me after I threw him out saying how much he loves me, he fucked up, he regrets everything. I also have her email address.

You can see what I'm tempted to do...

rockingbird · 27/03/2023 17:58

@Lieslies I read this today... I'm sharing with you!

The best revenge… is realising you never even needed that mothafucka in the first place.

The twisted irony of holding a grudge and seeking revenge: you end up giving the person who hurt you immense power over your life.

They become the puppet master, and you're the puppet, dancing to the tune of the emotions they trigger in you.

They don't even need to be present in your life anymore, and yet, they still have a grip on your happiness and well-being.

When you let go of the need for revenge, you're essentially telling yourself that you're strong enough, wise enough, and resilient enough to move on without the need for external validation.

It's a liberating and empowering act that frees you from the emotional shackles of the past and allows you to move forward unencumbered.

To put it simply, the best revenge is living your best life, despite the hurt and pain inflicted upon you. It's about taking back control of your emotions and your happiness.

You don't need their apology, their guilt, or their presence in your life to heal and grow. You have the power to do that on your own.

Lieslies · 27/03/2023 18:01

Yeah, I know.

But it would be most satisfying to cause him some shit in his new life, same as he tried to cause shit in mine. I'm not having a good day...

rockingbird · 27/03/2023 18:03

@Nelly10 I can relate. I feel like I've been in some sort of dream and suddenly woken up! Like has this really happened.. apparently due to fight or flight mode calming down. It might be worth a visit to the GP - I've been given antidepressants as I just can't seem to focus and have very little motivation 🫤

Emptyinsidetothecore · 28/03/2023 05:51

Lieslies · 27/03/2023 18:01

Yeah, I know.

But it would be most satisfying to cause him some shit in his new life, same as he tried to cause shit in mine. I'm not having a good day...

@Lieslies

You know that by doing what you want to do will inadvertently cause you more shit though?

There'll be a fall out, he’ll contact you, you’ll argue, you’ll get angry, you’ll get upset that you’re then feeling angry, you’ll feel like you’re going backwards…. It’ll spiral. That one act will not be good to deal with emotionally.

Don’t send the email.

Sign her email up to mailing lists. Toxic, childish and zero come back on you 😏😇

Lieslies · 28/03/2023 09:16

I resisted. I don't need the resulting drama.

I just want him out of my head. It's been 6 months and while I'm past the raw heartbreak stage, I still think about it a lot. I'm doing all the right things. I've had counselling. I'm seeing friends, going out, doing things I love, making plans. But still, the other night I dreamed about him, I was singing that 'I hate you so much right now' song at him.

How long does it take?!

Emptyinsidetothecore · 28/03/2023 15:31

@Lieslies i get it, I’m still angry but mainly because he’s still doing things (as a parent) which isn’t putting our DC first which he said he would, and his total emotionless soul towards me as her parent.

My default is to fix it and tell him how to do it better but it’s taking all my might and energy to refrain from telling him what to do. If he wants to do things a certain way, he’ll pay the consequences later on (already being seen by DC1 who can see through the bull shit)

I am also only 5 months in, so blind leading the blind here, but I would say I’ve moved on, and just would prefer for him to not be in my life at all. It pisses me off he’s got to be for at least another 10 years because of DC, but I couldn’t care less what he’s up to.

Every now and then I get a twang of the past that hits me (the betrayal and how he went about ending things) that makes my blood run cold and puts me in an anxiety state I experienced right at the beginning. I have resigned myself to the fact I will always be hurt from the betrayal and I need to learn to handle the anxiety, as opposed to getting angry and reliving the past. I’m using that in how I describe myself / my feelings to others (as I’ve changed as a result of it, in good and bad ways). The new boy on the scene heard my paranoid thinking the other day but I was just honest with him that I never used to be like this- it’s acknowledging my flaws (which may always be there now) because of what has been done to me; my trust is broken in many people (not just STBEX) and so my trust overall is now hyper.

A playlist with some angry songs is good therapy but only allow yourself 20 min and then put happy songs on!

no idea if that helps!

ilikeeggs · 28/03/2023 15:59

Hope you don’t mind me joining you all - I wasn’t married but engaged to partner and together for 13.5 years with 2 kids and then he left me 4 weeks ago for an OW.
Id confronted him about his constant messaging someone and eventually admitted he was in love with her. I’ve since found out they’ve been sleeping together for nearly 2 years :(. He went to stay with his sister then got a flat and I’m pretty sure the OW already moved in. I’m left in the family home wonderfully what the hell im going to do as I only work very part time and have mortgage and bills to pay.

It’s been the worst 4 weeks of my life, struggling so much. When does it start to get better?

ThePredictableScript · 28/03/2023 17:19

I filed for divorce today (4 months post separation) and did have a little cry and feel a bit low, I also had the house valued today so its been a big day. Hes gone more cold towards me now which is good as its what I need. I 100% don't want him back now, would never go back and I love reading stories here of the ladies who have moved on 😊 as we should! I definitely don't want to be alone for years not trusting people, I refuse to let him do that to me. As soon as I'm off the diet I'm on the apps to have some fun. To the newly separated people, the crushing pain does go away, you 100% get stronger. Its pain and pain goes away, life moves on. We are just in a shitty season but its always darkest before dawn. You'll be ok 💐

Nelly10 · 28/03/2023 18:03

The thought of going back into that situation makes my feel physically sick, 6 months on you gain so much clarity of who that person wasn’t and what your life wasn’t. It’s really sad but once you get past that life will feel better and you will feel better! Hang in there everyone who is only a few weeks in, chat and get support wherever you can x

Nelly10 · 28/03/2023 18:04

Emptyinsidetothecore · 28/03/2023 15:31

@Lieslies i get it, I’m still angry but mainly because he’s still doing things (as a parent) which isn’t putting our DC first which he said he would, and his total emotionless soul towards me as her parent.

My default is to fix it and tell him how to do it better but it’s taking all my might and energy to refrain from telling him what to do. If he wants to do things a certain way, he’ll pay the consequences later on (already being seen by DC1 who can see through the bull shit)

I am also only 5 months in, so blind leading the blind here, but I would say I’ve moved on, and just would prefer for him to not be in my life at all. It pisses me off he’s got to be for at least another 10 years because of DC, but I couldn’t care less what he’s up to.

Every now and then I get a twang of the past that hits me (the betrayal and how he went about ending things) that makes my blood run cold and puts me in an anxiety state I experienced right at the beginning. I have resigned myself to the fact I will always be hurt from the betrayal and I need to learn to handle the anxiety, as opposed to getting angry and reliving the past. I’m using that in how I describe myself / my feelings to others (as I’ve changed as a result of it, in good and bad ways). The new boy on the scene heard my paranoid thinking the other day but I was just honest with him that I never used to be like this- it’s acknowledging my flaws (which may always be there now) because of what has been done to me; my trust is broken in many people (not just STBEX) and so my trust overall is now hyper.

A playlist with some angry songs is good therapy but only allow yourself 20 min and then put happy songs on!

no idea if that helps!

I also don’t care what he does or who with just need my settlement through 🤞

ThePredictableScript · 25/04/2023 17:24

Omg ladies its been nearly a month since our updates!
I am nearly at the end of my diet! I am 8 stone 12 now, nice size 10 so thats good! Feel more me!
I have my first date on Thursday.. eek! Just more of a getting myself out there thing and also life is for livin! Been a bit down over marriage ending the last week, think its the realisation that its over and I feel bad on my kids moving between homes. So a bitter sweet update. Highs and lows. I'm just gonna keep moving forwards with my life. I hope you're all doing well 🥰

Always4Brenner · 25/04/2023 19:02

Six months since I left and I’m loving it best thing I ever did, though I’ve hurt him and I know that, I’m so happy now. I’ve got plans for years so I’m very happy hugs to everyone especially newbies just starting out. My flat is coming just as I want black in kitchen and bathroom I love it, my favourite bit of the bedroom got a whit chair and will add a pastel typed dyed one so bedding will be pastel.

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NotReallySure · 26/04/2023 19:10

Yes it's so nice having a home exactly how you want it @Always4Brenner . I've gone quite pastel-ey and beautiful greens and pinks.
Well done @ThePredictableScript that's an awesome effort on the diet.
I'm much happier in myself, really struggling Jan/Feb then a bit of an epiphany that actually life is so much better, more peaceful and happier not living under the same roof as my ex. The kids seem to be settling, with the odd wobble. Generally feeling very positive, the sunshine helps! I hope everyone else is doing ok xx

ThePredictableScript · 25/06/2023 08:09

Ladies.... how are we all?!?! Its summer now! Aw remember when it was cold and dark and how low we was😞 little update for me.. that date I went on in April went really well and we are still seeing eachother! Its been 2 months now. Did not expect that! Feeling sooo much better, totally over ex, I look at him and think what was I thinking!? I hope you're all ok and to the newly separated people, its true, it really does get better, hang in there! x

threeandmeandthedog · 25/06/2023 08:16

Good work @ThePredictableScript - it’s funny how things fall into place!

I have been asked out on a few dates but have realised I am enjoying single life and my own space, for the first time in 18years! Plus none of them were appealing to me 😂

I have reached a similar point @ThePredictableScript , in that I look back at ex and think wtf was I thinking? I had compromised sooo much and eroded so much of who I am. I feel myself again, I am not compromising and I feel light and happy.

Although ex is a monumental arsehole, we have worked hard to put the DC first and coparent well and this seems ok. Divorce should be through in the autumn. Kids seem well adjusted at the moment.

Have to meet ex tomorrow to sort D81, but we are kind of in agreement, so should be manageable and quick 🤞

It is certainly a roller coaster, lots of highs but a few lows too- have realised I just have to hang on and ride them out.

Hope everyone else is ok. 💐