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Do I leave or stay? I'm 31 and expecting a proposal but am worried that my bf's temper will affect our marriage in the future

203 replies

tara678 · 24/07/2022 17:24

I've been with my boyfriend for 4 years now and have bought the engagement ring together. The ring is with him so I'm just waiting for him to propose.

Throughout these 4 years I have been pretty happy. We do fight like all couples but make up after that. My boyfriend is extremely hot-tempered so when we do fight he tends to shout / raises his voice at me / sometimes when he is extremely mad he tends to release his frustration on objects around him i.e. like punching a pillow in front of me. I am however the complete opposite of him - I'm patient, soft spoken and hardly show any temper so whenever his temper flares up, it really hurts me and I just end up crying.

We have spoken about his temper before and he has promised to change - over the years I have seen some improvement but I understand it is hard to get somebody to change 180 in such a short span of time. He has promised to control his temper but I know changes like this don't happen immediately.

I do love him very much because apart from his temper - he treats me very well when he is in a good mood. He is also always the one who apologises first whenever we fight. He has explained that he is hot-tempered by nature and this is further aggravated by work stress - he works extremely hard (7 days a week) because he says he wants to start a family with me.

My concern however is that it could potentially get worse in the future because work stress will definitely increase as you move up in your career - What happens when we get married and he is unable to change because of the increasing work stress and we just end up fighting everyday? And I always get hurt because I have less of a temper and am more patient. What happens if we have kids?? My future kids will have to witness us fighting and seeing Daddy lash out at their Mummy? I don't want that for my future kids.

Should I re-consider this relationship? I'm also 31 this year and am worried I may not be able to find someone else in time to start a family - I'm 31 so I don't have much time left to start over.

OP posts:
JessesMum777888 · 24/07/2022 19:59

See those pillows infront of you he hits ?
one day that will be your face , or probably to start with your head where no one can see the bruises.
Then when he gets really mad it will be your face , and he will make up a story for you to tel your family/work colleagues/friends.
then your have a baby he might stop when your pregnant for a bit , then it will start again.
then your baby grows up into a child who you think doesn’t know.
youl have messed up kids and when you finally leave , those kids will tell you they knew and you will feel shit.
leave now , please. Don’t be like me.

Peachy66 · 24/07/2022 20:06

You say 'he treats me very well when he's in a good mood'. So do you find yourself tiptoeing around him in case he starts shouting and throwing things. Do you monitor what you say and how you say it, in case you upset him.
Do you dread him coming home from work, wondering if he's going to be in a good mood or bad mood?
The reason he doesn't lose his temper in work is because he knows his boss would not tolerate his tantrums!!!!!
He does it at home with you as he knows you will put up with it.
A partner who frightens you and makes you cry is not a keeper.

Like others have said it will only get worse if you stay.

SundayTeatime · 24/07/2022 20:07

tara678 · 24/07/2022 17:53

I’ve actually asked him this before but his response was “he feels that he can be his true self with me” which is why he can show his temper with me but not his boss / colleagues 😔

Yeah… So his true self isn’t great, is it? Not someone you want to marry, or have as a friend, or even know.

Wombat27A · 24/07/2022 20:08

It's abusive.

I can be like this & it's not good.

You'll always be waking on eggshells. Find an even-tempered partner as its much easier to work things through under stress, if your partner is amenable.

Even if he has reasons, he's not addressing it. You can't fix him.

Ilikecheesycrackers · 24/07/2022 20:09

@Polecat07 I had a similar experience - grew up with a parent who would "lose it" in rage. It has really affected me throughout my life. It's no way for a child to grow up.

Been married 30 years now and have never experienced this with my husband. We can disagree but don't "fight" - there are other ways to manage conflict in a relationship.

Bonbon21 · 24/07/2022 20:15

Well Tara... are you getting the message yet?
Seems pretty unanimous....
Be strong.

Shoxfordian · 24/07/2022 20:19

Don’t marry him

C152 · 24/07/2022 20:21

Yes, you should carefully reconsider the relationship. He's had 4 years to work on his temper. I think he's actually conditioning you to get used to it...then he'll do the old boiled frog trick and gradually get worse without you realising what has happened. What if you have kids? That's a whole shitload of stress. How will he manage that?

SkirridHill · 24/07/2022 20:23

Don't stay with him. The comment about being his true self with you is just designed to make you feel important - his temper will escalate. I've been with someone like him. Punching walls, throwing mugs. It gets worse. He won't change.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/07/2022 20:35

Frazzled2207 · 24/07/2022 19:19

Going against the grain a bit I’d only marry him on condition that he goes to some proper anger management therapy.

i do know someone who had major issues with anger but after therapy is now able to control it far better.

if he won’t seek professional help, it’s a no-no. Sorry

It's not anger management. If it was he'd be losing it in the street, at work, everywhere. He's just losing it with OP. Which means it's abuse, not anger management.

LDA123 · 24/07/2022 20:40

Leave before you add children into the mix - it would only get worse.

Rachaelrachael · 24/07/2022 20:43

So his hot temper is aggravated by work stress.. How's he going to cope when you throw a screaming baby into the mix and he's being woken up every hour? The pressures of possibly being down to 1 wage? Other unexpected circumstances such as having a sick child or a child with SEN?

Nothing can prepare you for how hard having a baby is and even the most settled couples find it very hard during those first few months. I cant begin to imagine doing it with an abusive, angry partner who is working 7 days per week.

Thatsenoughnow · 24/07/2022 20:47

He can be his true self with you? So his boss and colleagues get the good side and you get the aggressive violent arsehole side?!

EarthSight · 24/07/2022 20:56

OP - There are a lot of replies on here an hardly any engagement from you. Why is that?

I'm patient, soft spoken and hardly show any temper so whenever his temper flares up, it really hurts me and I just end up crying

Hot tempered people don't always end up with partners like you, but you do seem them settling with either someone equally hot tempered, or the complete opposite, because those are the only people who'll put up with them.

over the years I have seen some improvement but I understand it is hard to get somebody to change 180 in such a short span of time

Short span of time?? He's had years.

He treats me very well when he is in a good mood

Well lucky you! Someone's suitability as a partner shouldn't be decided on whether or not they are nice to you when they're in a good mood. It should also be what they're like when things aren't going so well, when they don't get what they won't, and he's massively failed that test.

he works extremely hard (7 days a week) because he says he wants to start a family with me

No sorry - this is usually total bullshit that is trotted out by lots of men, especially workaholics. The whole 'I do this for you' - no he doesn't. He works like that because as stressful as his job is, he secretly gets a lot of satisfaction out of it.

Please don't expect things to be ANY different if you have children with him. He's already set your expectations VERY low, so if you have children with him, he will see that as a stamp of approval on his behaviour, no matter what he says. I'm sure there will be many promises to change, and maybe he will manage it for a few months.....but as soon as your pregnant, and especially after the baby's born, he will have got what he wanted and the incentive to keep a cap on himself will have gone. You will then be in a very vulnerable situation, and he'll know it.

One of the key things you need to consider in a man is how they deal with stress. If they can't handle normal arguments without punching innanimate onjects, stoming out of rooms, and shouting and screaming.....then you can expect that X10 if you have children with them. What on earth will be like when his sleep is disrupted all them time?? When he's weary and he has an irritable toddler kicking his chain when he's driving?? When he's in the supermarket and the child starts crying because they've been pulled away from the toy section??

Also - they don't call it reproduction for nothing. Ask yourself - do you want to replicate him as a person in one or more children? How would you feel with multiple versions of him around the house and having to cope with that?? People can inherit their personality traits from a few family memebers. Some kids are very different from their parents and yes, nurture plays a part....but nurture isn't everything. If you are unlucky, you will end up with one or more boys that are exactly like him....are you ready for that, because that is exactly what happens to some abused women. They give birth to basically a copy of the father and then have to deal with that in a vulnerable environment, often as a single parent. No bloody thank you.

What happens when we get married and he is unable to change because of the increasing work stress and we just end up fighting everyday? And I always get hurt because I have less of a temper and am more patient. What happens if we have kids?? My future kids will have to witness us fighting and seeing Daddy lash out at their Mummy? I don't want that for my future kids

You are entirely sensible for wondering this. No one can see what the future holds, but honestly, I think I'd rather remain childless that have kids with a volatile man.

CallOnMe · 24/07/2022 21:06

It's not anger management. If it was he'd be losing it in the street, at work, everywhere. He's just losing it with OP.
Which means it's abuse, not anger management.

This!!

EternalPoinsettia · 24/07/2022 21:07

I am sure I will be repeating advice... End it. Don't ignore early warning signs. Marriage, and even more so children, equals more pressure and potential for fiery situations. You don't have to have this life - you have an amazing opportunity right now to demand better for you and your potential children. It made me sad to read your post, the dynamic between you sounds just so so wrong.

Penguinsmum · 24/07/2022 21:16

Omg he sounds pathetic. You only have one life. Don't you deserve better?

EternalPoinsettia · 24/07/2022 21:17

There is also something concerning about the way you say he treats you well when he is in a good mood, it's got an undertone of accepting that men get to choose whether to treat the women they are with 'well', or 'badly', and you just have to accept what is dished out. You can and should have an equal relationship, a true partnership. Please educate yourself on what is possible from a good man - another person, just like you are. Forget all the stereotypes of what men are like and women are like, look for a decent person who respects you and is kind

Herejustforthisone · 24/07/2022 21:26

Run, while you’re still unburdened with children and young. Please run.

Men like this tend to escalate and you will become the verbal, of not literal, punching bag.

Windypants21 · 24/07/2022 21:37

Please leave. If this is what he is like in the romantic phase of your relationship it definitely won't get better. If he's stressed now then throwing in a few children into the mix won't make him less stressed, he will get worse and you will be his main target. He isn't doing you a favour by being 'his real self' with you. This is bullying abuse pure and simple.

Imagine how you'll feel in 4 or 5 years and stuck with him, married with kids and trying to separate. You will rue not leaving him when you had the chance. Imagine trying to share your children with a bullying abuser as a lifelong commitment . Get out now while you still can.

autienotnaughty · 24/07/2022 22:22

Honestly don't do it. If he wants to go to counselling/support group to work on his temper then great . But do not stay with someone who does not take action to change. Children bring so much stress and tiredness imagine that plus someone who may lose his rag at any given time. You are in the easy stage now, all his issues will amplify down the line xx

Triffid1 · 24/07/2022 22:34

I believe that people with anger issues absolutely can learn to manage their anger better. Dh did. But, 2 key points:

  1. It wasn't just me he got angry with. He had caused problems in his friendship circles and at work previously. It was a genuine problem, not only one that came out for me (although I got it more, for obvious reasons(
  1. He was 100% committed to change. Attended therapy. Worked through a lot of stuff etc. Basically - HE did the work. And when a few years later I noticed some signs of lack of.control and mentioned it to him, he booked himself straight back into therapy and actually made a.major break through in terms of understanding what was happening which was crucial if he was going to solve the problem.

Your dp sadly does not sound like dh.

jetadore · 24/07/2022 22:41

AnotherEmma · 24/07/2022 17:29

Sorry but I don't think you should marry or have children with him. Arguments and anger get worse when you add children, sleep deprivation, tantrums etc into the mix.

I second this. Being a parent will massively amplify any lack of patience/stress/anger issues.

tillyandmilly · 24/07/2022 22:45

Red flag! Please don’t commit to this man ! Plenty of lovely men out there that can control their tempers!

lurchermummy · 24/07/2022 23:17

Run rum as fast as you can. Sorry but he won't change.

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